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radius777

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58. Hamas does not care about Palestinians,

Thu Feb 29, 2024, 04:51 PM

Feb 29

it is a terror group that was long supported by Netanyahu himself for cynical reasons.

“for those of us who want to thwart a two state solution, we need to strengthen Hamas and funnel them money. It’s part of our strategy.” - Benjamin Netanyahu

What is occuring in Gaza is ethnic cleansing, using a terror attack as a pretext, and our tax dollars should not be going to support such a regime.

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13,000 dead children in Gaza [View all] malaise Feb 29 OP

"Official Figures"? maxsolomon Feb 29 #1

And the Traildogbob Feb 29 #3

I think last month I read around 550 dead Ukrainian kids in 2 yrs womanofthehills Feb 29 #18

So the Israelis are making themselves look "worse than the Russians" DemocraticPatriot Mar 1 #130

Figures enid602 Feb 29 #4

They expect the number under the rubble womanofthehills Feb 29 #21

Yikes enid602 Feb 29 #22

How safe are the hostages? Omnipresent Mar 1 #129

They keep tallies on the dead - womanofthehills Feb 29 #12

Gaza enid602 Feb 29 #28

Keep telling yourself that iemanja Feb 29 #70

Telling myself what? maxsolomon Feb 29 #79

Our tax dollars go to fund the weapons to execute those deaths iemanja Feb 29 #81

As I said, I was focusing on the "official" portion of the OP. I'm not "dismissing". maxsolomon Feb 29 #88

Right....'official figures' supplied by TERRORISTS nt GuppyGal Mar 1 #118

"Do untto others as you'd have them do unto you" yagotme Feb 29 #2

There are people out there sarisataka Feb 29 #5

Yes, I know. That's kinda why I asked for the clarification... nt yagotme Feb 29 #6

just as RocRizzo55 Feb 29 #13

There are some who will support Israel sarisataka Feb 29 #20

The key here is RocRizzo55 Feb 29 #71

BS former9thward Feb 29 #101

From the NY Times RocRizzo55 Feb 29 #110

Thanks, but paywalled. former9thward Feb 29 #111

Sorry about that RocRizzo55 Feb 29 #113

"Dismissed as aspirational" maxsolomon Mar 1 #123

Wrong RocRizzo55 Mar 1 #124

Non sequitur. Does not address your LIHOP or MIHOP assertion. maxsolomon Mar 1 #125

The Times of Israel & Haaretz report one baby killed womanofthehills Feb 29 #34

So if Israel stopped when 10 kids were killed sarisataka Feb 29 #38

Hamas killed kids and babies on Oct. 7 INTENTIONALLY and sadistically. SunSeeker Feb 29 #45

So the IDF had no idea that their actions in Gaza Voltaire2 Mar 1 #127

The IDF was not and is not targeting civilians, they are targeting Hamas. SunSeeker Mar 1 #133

So the IDF is just massively incompetent? Voltaire2 Mar 1 #135

The IDF did not "miss the target 10,000 times." They have been hitting Hamas. SunSeeker Mar 1 #136

What? Huh? I've seen no evidence of that. Please cite examples. nt TeamProg Feb 29 #40

Rlly? sarisataka Feb 29 #51

Um, previous DU links, from "here"? TeamProg Feb 29 #62

You know as well as I do sarisataka Feb 29 #68

I've asked to be DMd their names so we can be sure to put them on block. When I get those names I'll let you know Nanjeanne Feb 29 #96

Please let me know Goddessartist Feb 29 #103

Clearly there are many who believe the Israeli military is justified in killing iemanja Feb 29 #72

Do Jewish lives matter? sarisataka Feb 29 #75

I said EVERY life matters iemanja Feb 29 #77

It may surprise you sarisataka Feb 29 #84

Hamas did something unjustifiable and horrible: they killed civilians. Voltaire2 Feb 29 #91

Intentionally killing civilians, yes sarisataka Feb 29 #93

of course. There is always a conditional response. Voltaire2 Feb 29 #95

You guess wrong sarisataka Feb 29 #97

I'm guessing that the answer to your question is also a big NO. MarineCombatEngineer Mar 3 #142

There are people on DU who believe Hamas has done nothing wrong? And they are still members? Nanjeanne Feb 29 #94

I would have to look them up sarisataka Feb 29 #99

Thanks. I've had many conversations with people I absolutely disagree with but I've never run into anyone who thinks Nanjeanne Feb 29 #100

They're Freedom Fighters like Mandela! AZSkiffyGeek Feb 29 #102

Why not both ExciteBike66 Feb 29 #7

Possibly. I don't know. I'm guessing you don't know for sure, either. yagotme Feb 29 #8

No RocRizzo55 Feb 29 #14

What if that's true? Captain Stern Feb 29 #43

Hypotheticaly RocRizzo55 Feb 29 #66

For how long? Forever? n/t Captain Stern Mar 1 #120

Far right Likud started this by IDF raid of the Al-Aqsa Mosque radius777 Feb 29 #32

According to previous posts, Hamas has been planning this prior to Apr '23. yagotme Mar 1 #114

And Bibi/Likud have been intentionally provoking radius777 Mar 1 #134

Since Hamas has 16 & 17 members some were no doubt EX500rider Feb 29 #39

Officially? maxsolomon Feb 29 #83

Wow obamanut2012 Feb 29 #9

Glad it hit you that hard. yagotme Feb 29 #10

Post removed Post removed Feb 29 #16

IBTL sarisataka Feb 29 #23

Such Projection. Cha Feb 29 #26

No, it hit me that you are using an ancient religious text to support what is happening in gaza obamanut2012 Feb 29 #24

If you read up thread a bit, another poster quoted part of the rule. yagotme Mar 1 #115

Because Hamas drove the Palestinians out of Israel in '49. ... marble falls Feb 29 #33

Both are deserving of condemnation Chautauquas Feb 29 #17

According to . . . Richard D Feb 29 #11

I think a lot of Americans are conscious of their anti-semitism JustAnotherGen Feb 29 #19

I think you are sadly mistaken about who is to blame PTL_Mancuso Feb 29 #29

So then, according to your rationalization . . . Richard D Feb 29 #31

And by the way . . . Richard D Feb 29 #37

There's a ton of missing history in this post. Ace Rothstein Feb 29 #47

I think you're sadly mistaken & Fuck the Butchers Gang Rapists of HAMAS. Cha Feb 29 #60

Why was the wall built? yagotme Mar 1 #116

Wait Diraven Feb 29 #52

Unfortunately believe this is going to cause a Young voter issue for Biden.. DemocratInPa Feb 29 #15

Are your JustAnotherGen Feb 29 #25

White.. DemocratInPa Feb 29 #56

That's sad JustAnotherGen Mar 1 #138

What is the point of this post? themaguffin Feb 29 #27

Our tax dollars at work. marble falls Feb 29 #30

I got nothin'. twodogsbarking Feb 29 #35

Those are not official figures. Those are Hamas Health Ministry figures. SunSeeker Feb 29 #36

They also give no age breakdown on the "children" EX500rider Feb 29 #41

They teach them a lot younger than that there... nt yagotme Mar 1 #117

Wonder how many would be alive if Hammas had released the hostages they kidnapped. WiseElder Feb 29 #42

Agreed! perdita9 Feb 29 #48

IDF shot at food aid trucks causing stampede, 100 dead, radius777 Feb 29 #44

No, the stampeding of the aid trucks occured first. It was not caused by IDF. SunSeeker Feb 29 #49

I don't agree, saw it on CNN and both Jeremy Diamond radius777 Feb 29 #53

CNN has offerred no evidence that the stampede was caused by IDF forces. SunSeeker Mar 1 #139

We are going to lose our country because of this. edisdead Feb 29 #46

Yup. A lot of people are letting themselves get played by Hamas/Putin propaganda. nt SunSeeker Feb 29 #50

They are responding to US policy iemanja Feb 29 #74

No, they are responding to lies. Which they have a right to believe. But it hurts us all. SunSeeker Feb 29 #76

What is the lie? iemanja Feb 29 #78

The lie that Israel is intentionally killing innocent civilians with our help. nt SunSeeker Feb 29 #80

We provide the weapons iemanja Feb 29 #82

If you can't see the difference between Hamas intentionally going out to kill babies in their cribs in Israel... SunSeeker Feb 29 #85

That is simply a fact. Voltaire2 Feb 29 #92

Of course they understand that Hamas is using civilians as human shields. SunSeeker Mar 1 #137

"We have little to zero control of what Israel does." Absurd. Israel receives radius777 Feb 29 #55

You are aware sarisataka Feb 29 #57

Hamas is a terror group long supported by Netanyahu. radius777 Feb 29 #59

I know who Hamas is and sarisataka Feb 29 #61

The West should recognize a Palestinian state radius777 Feb 29 #64

I do not disagree about Likud sarisataka Feb 29 #73

Until Israel agrees to a 2 state solition? edisdead Feb 29 #106

The US can withhold material aid for the military campaign. David__77 Feb 29 #69

We who? Biden veto-ing it? edisdead Feb 29 #108

They said the same thing RocRizzo55 Feb 29 #112

Circumstances are very different though edisdead Mar 1 #121

Why would Hamas do this to their own people? Bonx Feb 29 #54

Hamas does not care about Palestinians, radius777 Feb 29 #58

Because the Israeli government has no responsibility for their own actions? iemanja Feb 29 #65

Hamas is not a "handful" of terrorists. It is the government of Gaza. nt SunSeeker Feb 29 #87

Hamas' forces are estimated at 30-40 thousand, maxsolomon Feb 29 #89

THIS malaise Mar 1 #128

They shouldn't have voted for Hamas. Oh wait... onecaliberal Feb 29 #63

The US has sent weapons there on an emergency basis to facilitate this military campaign. David__77 Feb 29 #67

You mean figures from that highly accurate Gaza Health Ministry? SlimJimmy Feb 29 #86

Their estimation track record is aligned with the UN and with Israel's. David__77 Feb 29 #90

The Ministry's track record in THIS conflict has not aligned with the UN and Israel. SunSeeker Feb 29 #98

I read this article before. And want to point out the main point (buried in the middle) SlimJimmy Mar 3 #141

You won't get a response. nt GuppyGal Mar 1 #119

they got a response within 13 minutes, around SIXTEEN hours before you said they would not get a response Celerity Mar 1 #140

Enough. Aussie105 Feb 29 #104

It is sickening malaise Feb 29 #105

Yes, it is. Aussie105 Feb 29 #107

We are in tthe same group malaise Feb 29 #109

DURec leftstreet Mar 1 #122

To borrow from Neil Young gay texan Mar 1 #126

Ceasefire alone is pro-Hamas. Support peace. keithbvadu2 Mar 1 #131

Ceasefire alone keithbvadu2 Mar 1 #132