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218. today's ostentatious evangelical Christianity isn't about Christ, it's just a shibboleth

Wed Feb 28, 2024, 01:11 PM

Feb 28

The purpose of espousing hard-to-swallow religious dogma such as young earth is to identify and exclude the people who hold to other standards of belief, such as needing evidence. It's for identifying who's a "real American" and who's a domestic enemy to be fought or oppressed. It's a political movement now rather than a religious one. It's a hate movement. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the teachings of Jesus.

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I'm kind of shocked at how anti-Christian I've become. [View all] Coventina Feb 27 OP

I would have done the same thing. Upthevibe Feb 27 #1

It's part of why i don't go to MurrayDelph Feb 27 #46

I don't know about anywhere else, but grumpyduck Feb 27 #81

They're more subtle MurrayDelph Feb 27 #96

Also too, fk Hobby Lobby. OMGWTF Feb 27 #87

Haven't been Rebl2 Feb 27 #160

I do art I_UndergroundPanther Feb 27 #169

Many of these so-called "Christians" are the antithesis of what He would have said (The Father or The Son). COL Mustard Feb 27 #173

Money grubbers True Blue American Feb 28 #205

The phrase of the day melm00se Feb 28 #206

I don't want to see religious proselytizing on my food Ocelot II Feb 27 #2

oh my bdamomma Feb 27 #3

I am anti-religion in general. Lunabell Feb 27 #4

What?! cilla4progress Feb 27 #20

"It would be almost unbelievable, if history did not record.... lastlib Feb 27 #70

I am spiritual not religious Blue Idaho Feb 28 #213

I'm still a Christian but organized churches and ALBliberal Feb 27 #5

I'm religious. Aussie105 Feb 27 #119

Imagine if only one guy believed in Christianity Shermann Feb 27 #131

"Okay, here's the deal... Sky Jewels Feb 28 #216

That ol' time secular honey! nt The Unmitigated Gall Feb 27 #6

For me, it's the front running prosperity touting christians. Marcus IM Feb 27 #7

And the End-Timers who love to see war in the ME because it means Jeebus is coming back. OMGWTF Feb 27 #92

I'm totally with you on that! calimary Feb 27 #8

People are sometimes taken aback... Hugin Feb 27 #9

They make it so easy. Jirel Feb 27 #10

Who is "they"? You mean Right Wing crackpots? whathehell Feb 27 #123

The majority of Christian voters cast their ballots for Trump. Mariana Feb 27 #136

"The majority of Christian voters cast their ballots for Trump" because of abortion, no doubt... DemocraticPatriot Feb 27 #163

8 years of HS/College Jesuit education. One of the great bodies of educators in this world. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 29 #230

Congratulatons for being among the minority. Mariana Mar 1 #240

Could that because a majority of Americans whathehell Feb 29 #234

You said the right wing crackpots are the minority of Christians. Mariana Mar 1 #239

Yes, and that's a true statement whathehell Mar 1 #241

True - but some of the Catolic Bishops are peddling soldierant Feb 27 #178

Seriously?..If so, I'd guess the operative word whathehell Feb 27 #184

Likely correct. But like most fascists, they are very loud. soldierant Feb 28 #227

Not loud enough for me to hear.. whathehell Feb 29 #232

I'm Catholic, this thread is giving me heartburn, but also Dorian Gray Feb 29 #233

Thank you. soldierant Feb 29 #235

I would have done the same thing too. StarryNite Feb 27 #11

Most religions are filled with good stories that can be used Jerry2144 Feb 27 #12

Wow - exactly my thinking! cilla4progress Feb 27 #26

I worry about our prehistoric ancestors... Omnipresent Feb 27 #62

For some reason, modern Christianity teaches little about the Harrowing of Hell Coventina Feb 27 #74

I'm glad he was able to rescue those cavemen then. Omnipresent Feb 27 #80

But who will save the modern Neanderthals who took over Jerry2144 Feb 27 #94

I just assumed Republican Jesus would. Omnipresent Feb 27 #105

Well, Son of a Gun! I had no idea! PTL_Mancuso Feb 28 #208

You are very welcome! Coventina Feb 28 #221

Add the works of Terry Pratchett for moral fables. GoneOffShore Feb 27 #91

HELLO ArkansasDemocrat1 Feb 28 #220

Stories about hateful deities killing everything from first born sons John Shaft Feb 28 #217

I'm drifting Druid and Kahuna bucolic_frolic Feb 27 #13

Zackly cilla4progress Feb 27 #27

I am Pagan atreides1 Feb 27 #40

Lapsed Unitarian, raised Presbyterian, and doing Christmas and Solstice. GoneOffShore Feb 27 #93

Eating the chocolate bunny ears! Dem2theMax Feb 27 #124

I suspect you are anti xchristian rather than anti christian frogstar0 Feb 27 #14

The Carters are a fine example of Christians who walk the walk. Lunabell Feb 27 #25

The religion I've been most closely associated with in my adult life cilla4progress Feb 27 #30

That's another good one. Lunabell Feb 27 #32

this is the only one i've considered attending barbtries Feb 27 #54

Atheists are indeed welcome in UU congregations. 3catwoman3 Feb 27 #114

I am not certain how an Atheist can give a sermon. JanMichael Feb 28 #229

I am a Satanist I_UndergroundPanther Feb 27 #170

I had a potential contractor send me a "have a blessed weekend" email DBoon Feb 27 #15

that is the liberal version of getting mad about 'happy holidays' prodigitalson Feb 27 #60

I beg to differ a bit... slightlv Feb 27 #155

I have wonder liberal Christian friends Mz Pip Feb 27 #16

That's nice, but your friends are the minority of Christians in the US. Mariana Feb 27 #140

I don't cilla4progress Feb 27 #17

i don't know why it's even considered a single religion unblock Feb 27 #18

Welcome to the club Arazi Feb 27 #19

I'm thinking of making a "Keep Yule in Yuletide" bumper sticker. Scrivener7 Feb 27 #23

Banksy nailed it 20 years ago Celerity Feb 27 #55

Whoa. That hits in a strength-y way, doesn't it, now? Scrivener7 Feb 27 #58

Must. Resist. Nail. Joke. Coventina Feb 27 #75

Yep, Banksy nailed that one. God I miss Will. Autumn Feb 27 #181

Its hard to like Christians when they think I'm in league with the devil 303squadron Feb 27 #21

Newsflash: Right Wing "Christians" are a MINORITY whathehell Feb 27 #88

They sure as shit aren't a minority where I live . . . hatrack Feb 27 #97

Then maybe it's your area that's the problem. whathehell Feb 27 #109

They aren't a minority in the US. Most of them voted for Trump. Mariana Feb 27 #142

Call me prejudiced then 303squadron Feb 27 #147

I just wish they would stop trying to shove it down our throats. And uteruses. Scrivener7 Feb 27 #22

Religion is like a penis Jerry2144 Feb 27 #95

Whoa. That's awesome. Scrivener7 Feb 27 #100

And I forgot to add Jerry2144 Feb 27 #102

. Scrivener7 Feb 27 #122

MLK never hesitated to ground his activism in his Christian faith. summer_in_TX Feb 28 #204

The Black Church Dear_Prudence Feb 28 #219

"viewing religion as a tool, one that can be used to humanize people or one to dehumanize." summer_in_TX Feb 28 #222

Thanks Dear_Prudence Feb 28 #224

Thank you, Dear Prudence! summer_in_TX Feb 29 #231

Same here gay texan Feb 27 #24

I am anti-everything that is based entirely on make believe, as is Xianity, Sibelius Fan Feb 27 #28

See Dobbs Sky Jewels Feb 27 #196

Post removed Post removed Feb 27 #29

Maybe you are just new here. We don't need any sanctimonious Christians telling us what to believe. flying_wahini Feb 27 #37

She's not new. herding cats Feb 27 #45

Guilty! Coventina Feb 27 #38

If they put that on their label to sell products then (eye roll here). flying_wahini Feb 27 #31

I became an atheist when i was 10 (the god thing just didn't make sense to me) Buckeyeblue Feb 27 #33

When a business includes that they are Christian... LiberalFighter Feb 27 #34

I'm right there with you!! Ferrets are Cool Feb 27 #35

It seems that that Christians think only sinners can be Christians. LiberalFighter Feb 27 #36

I agree to some extent... although... LakeArenal Feb 27 #39

You should see BonnieJW Feb 27 #99

That is not my experience at all. LakeArenal Feb 27 #134

They also run a whole lot of puppy mills. leftyladyfrommo Feb 27 #141

Again... Wisconsin is famous for the "English" owned puppy mills. LakeArenal Feb 27 #150

Dont forget the amish I_UndergroundPanther Feb 27 #172

Dont forget the amish puppy mills I_UndergroundPanther Feb 27 #174

Lumping them all together is exactly what the Right Wing does with US oldsoftie Feb 27 #41

It wasn't a "thank YOU" (the customer) it was a thank GOD Coventina Feb 27 #52

Good answer.. well said. Exactly how I feel.. mountain grammy Feb 28 #215

Of course it was preaching. Mariana Feb 27 #144

What you (and I) need to remember senseandsensibility Feb 27 #42

I've grown more anti-religious period. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 27 #43

i totally would have done the same thing. barbtries Feb 27 #44

Being an empiricist I find it wierd that people believe in delusions Model35mech Feb 27 #47

Since I am a Pastafarian I guess I'm not completely anti-religious SouthernDem4ever Feb 27 #48

I'm with you. pandr32 Feb 27 #49

I've been that way for quite a while. Susan Calvin Feb 27 #50

I've become anti any religion dflprincess Feb 27 #51

Right there with you. byronius Feb 27 #53

Ain't that the truth? mainer Feb 27 #56

Strangely qwlauren35 Feb 27 #57

Christ teachings are pretty simple. OAITW r.2.0 Feb 27 #59

I suppose that's true, if you can sift through all the apochryphal texts Model35mech Feb 27 #65

"I don't need interpreters to twist and warp the message" Act_of_Reparation Feb 27 #113

Do you not? Sympthsical Feb 28 #211

You mean you have to watch The Passion of the Christ with the subtitles on??? Act_of_Reparation Feb 28 #212

Yes, but Sympthsical Feb 28 #214

There was no Christ. Goodheart Feb 27 #182

I never knew honey wasn't considered vegan until now. Mosby Feb 27 #61

"Science flew men to the moon..... lastlib Feb 27 #63

Technology in the hands of engineers flew men to the moon. Model35mech Feb 27 #133

Those who find the need to trumpet and advertise their beliefs often have hidden agendas dlk Feb 27 #64

I do the same Bettie Feb 27 #66

Try living in small town Oklahoma! Behind the Aegis Feb 27 #67

They assume you are the same type of Christian as them DBoon Feb 27 #125

I have a funny story LeftInTX Feb 27 #126

I think we need a freedom FROM religion amendment. DJ Synikus Makisimus Feb 27 #68

I used to be a "believe whatcha wanna" type. Happy Hoosier Feb 27 #69

Their need to be conquering Christian Soldiers, characterizes their insecurity Model35mech Feb 27 #72

I agree. but their dedication to privilege and power... Happy Hoosier Feb 27 #82

Their "willingness" means shit to me. Model35mech Feb 27 #98

Jesus called them Pharisees cutroot Feb 27 #71

What are they, then? Are they atheists? Are they followers of some other religion? Mariana Feb 27 #149

They are mostly fuck-heads ass-holes sycophants and thieves cutroot Feb 27 #188

I get it. madamesilverspurs Feb 27 #73

I have a very large house project & I'm shopping for a contractor CrispyQ Feb 27 #76

right there with ya. jcgoldie Feb 27 #77

She probably does do it on purpose. Mariana Feb 27 #153

I am an atheist, but I do adhere to certain of the "Christian" values in which I was raised. NNadir Feb 27 #78

a lot of angst comes from et tu Feb 27 #79

It's the self-righteous posturing. Basic LA Feb 27 #83

Years ago, Alaska Airlines had scripture on their cocktail napkins, which creeped me out OMGWTF Feb 27 #84

I didn't leave the Christian church. It left me rainin Feb 27 #85

I feel you. I would have thought and done the same thing,, and I'm a Christian-former-atheist. ancianita Feb 27 #86

Want to lose my business? Put a Jesus fish on your business card/website/billboard. hatrack Feb 27 #89

back when I had a pick-up truck Conjuay Feb 27 #167

They use the "Christian" label to hide the fact that they are the least qualified dalton99a Feb 27 #177

I have to remind myself constantly Demobrat Feb 27 #90

It is NOT prejudiced to be aware of where twisted truth comes from Model35mech Feb 27 #103

Sometimes I_UndergroundPanther Feb 27 #176

I once had a white male Christian co-worker Demobrat Feb 27 #191

You've got a lot of company out there Warpy Feb 27 #101

I'm with you. Kath2 Feb 27 #104

I'm with you. SarahD Feb 27 #106

I'm not anti-Christian but I really dislike products and services where their owner advertises their religion LymphocyteLover Feb 27 #107

Speaking for myself... Mike Nelson Feb 27 #108

Good Intensions bernieb Feb 27 #110

Secular honey. I like it! dchill Feb 27 #111

I went to first 6 grades in Catholic school SCantiGOP Feb 27 #112

I was already very anti-religion. Initech Feb 27 #115

Former Catholic and Presbyterian, now I'm an agnostic at best Best_man23 Feb 27 #116

Interesting. I am a Presbyterian Elder in the PC-USA church, not Presbyterian Church in America. phylny Feb 27 #138

I've noticed that the more a business proclaims their faith in god Stuckinthebush Feb 27 #117

Everyone's heard the expression, "Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel", but really, it's religion. nt eppur_se_muova Feb 27 #127

Amen! Stuckinthebush Feb 27 #128

I've become the same about nationalism and patriotism. Torchlight Feb 27 #118

I've met so few of them. chowmama Feb 27 #120

no true Scotsman fallacy Celerity Feb 27 #148

Good for you! denvine Feb 27 #121

Don't trust the middleman Tom of Temecula Feb 27 #129

I have faith but don't need to go to a church organized by humans. appleannie1 Feb 27 #130

I'm the same way! woodsprite Feb 27 #132

I don't have a problem with any religion as long as they don't try to drag me down with them. Chainfire Feb 27 #135

Well they've dragged all US women down. Sky Jewels Feb 27 #195

The whole "God" thing gets me down. Just live life and be the best you. Best to all. twodogsbarking Feb 27 #137

Your post has obviously struck a nerve among many DUers. generalbetrayus Feb 27 #139

If someone has to announce that they're a Christian Klondike Kat Feb 27 #143

I avoid businesses and shops that display their little "Jesus Fish" emblem. Oopsie Daisy Feb 27 #145

I've had problems working on my laptop at local coffee shops AdamGG Feb 27 #146

Evangelical/Trump Christians are political Christians and are the public face of Christianity in America today. keithbvadu2 Feb 27 #151

I feel exactly the same way... Trueblue Texan Feb 27 #152

That's everyone's right Groundhawg Feb 27 #154

You need to separate the Christians from the Pseudo-Christians and Christofascists. Wonder Why Feb 27 #156

Doesn't God decide who's a Christian and who isn't? Mariana Feb 27 #157

That doesn't seem specifically anti Christian TheKentuckian Feb 27 #158

That's the same reason I wouldn't fly the flag from my truck. JohnnyRingo Feb 27 #159

Welcome to the silent majority. lindysalsagal Feb 27 #161

I have had people try to shove their dogma down my throat my whole life. Bird Lady Feb 27 #162

Public displays GAJMac Feb 27 #164

ME TOO Sessuch Feb 27 #165

I don't judge a company or individual on their religious beliefs TexasDem69 Feb 27 #166

Putting Bible verses on a product isn't a belef, it is an action. Mariana Feb 27 #179

Let the Buyer Beware screamcheese Feb 27 #168

I have come to associate Christianity with fear, hatred, cruelty and heartlessness. mwb970 Feb 27 #171

For me, religion is man-made. But there's a big difference between it being personal vs. when it rules the government tornado34jh Feb 27 #175

just anti holy rollers. pansypoo53219 Feb 27 #180

Faux Xtian yankee87 Feb 27 #183

It's like Trump hugging the flag Martin Eden Feb 27 #185

It's weird, ain't it. Iggo Feb 27 #186

To add one more thing GAJMac Feb 27 #187

That's the only kind of religious experience I need. Iggo Feb 27 #189

I routinely choose drmeow Feb 27 #190

Me, too. stage left Feb 27 #192

Murican Jesus hates you, but Woke Jesus loves you Kennah Feb 27 #193

You know those Jesus fish some Christians put on business marketing materials? Sky Jewels Feb 27 #194

About your feelings, they have a less than Christlike solution. czarjak Feb 27 #197

I ordered some gravy mix that luckily just happens to be vegan. MLAA Feb 27 #198

I personally buy what I like, regardless of the CEO Polybius Feb 27 #199

A little holy thank you note on a honey jar from the GenThePerservering Feb 28 #200

I do ForgedCrank Feb 28 #201

Found on Bob Smith Glue's website: barbaraann Feb 28 #202

The decline of religiosity is not by accident - their action speak louder than their words. walkingman Feb 28 #203

I would have done the same thing. llmart Feb 28 #207

A lot of the natural food company owners.... wolfie001 Feb 28 #209

I also don't want "religion" shoved at me. . . . h2ebits Feb 28 #210

today's ostentatious evangelical Christianity isn't about Christ, it's just a shibboleth paulkienitz Feb 28 #218

I have been anti-Christian since the Pentecosts scared me to death when I was five. apnu Feb 28 #223

I feel your pain, truly and deeply. Coventina Feb 28 #228

Recommended. H2O Man Feb 28 #225

I don't really think of myself as anti-Christian. Kath2 Feb 28 #226

Our last two Democratic presidents are Christians. former9thward Feb 29 #236

Well I know what you mean mvd Mar 1 #237

How do you feel about Jews and Muslims? Kaleva Mar 1 #238