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Lunabell

(6,080 posts) Fri Feb 23, 2024, 04:48 PM Feb 23

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I'm pretty tired of being called antisemitic just because I criticize Israel and their government. [View all]

It's an attempt at censorship. Not going to work on me.

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I'm pretty tired of being called antisemitic just because I criticize Israel and their government. [View all] Lunabell Feb 23 OP

It's an ad hominem debate tactic. Sneederbunk Feb 23 #1

It's just gaslighting... Think. Again. Feb 23 #2

Same, sadly there is no actual discussion. Just accusations. onecaliberal Feb 23 #38

I did a lot of blocking. sybylla Feb 23 #43

Yes. I've never had so many people on ignore before. Crunchy Frog Feb 24 #113

I put many on ignore during the 2012 election, trying to make staying here feel less awful. sybylla Feb 24 #114

Yes, I used to read and sometimes post in that forum. Crunchy Frog Feb 24 #115

Join the line malaise Feb 23 #3

You posted a conspiracy theory and got called on it. maxsolomon Feb 23 #4

Let Me Guess, Sir The Magistrate Feb 23 #7

You guessed correctly. madaboutharry Feb 23 #11

Demonizing Jews? Lunabell Feb 23 #14

Being warned about an immanent attack and LIHOP are different things. maxsolomon Feb 23 #35

Has there been an explanation yet of the hours-long delay of the IDF's response... brush Feb 23 #45

We won't get that while there's an active war going on Arazi Feb 23 #73

I was wondering that to. Butterflylady Feb 23 #85

One poster, and it's probably true, said that won't come out until Netanyahu is out... brush Feb 23 #96

LIHOP is a conspiracy theory. TwilightZone Feb 23 #39

Criticism was not warranted. Butterflylady Feb 23 #86

Disagreement and Criticism Is Not Censorship, Ma'am The Magistrate Feb 23 #88

And Netanyahu long enabled Hamas radius777 Feb 23 #71

That's not a CT. He wanted Palestinians divided, so he wasn't aggressive enough against Hamas. LeftInTX Feb 23 #91

He knew they were practicing "storming " the border questionseverything Feb 24 #101

Post removed Post removed Feb 23 #5

Damn. OilemFirchen Feb 23 #6

what are the words? TIA Celerity Feb 23 #56

I disagree. Chainfire Feb 23 #20

DU is also not representative - it's much older and Boomer-centric than radius777 Feb 23 #63

The Dem base is women, primarily mcar Feb 23 #92

"the Dem base ... tends to view this war as genocide." No, the actual base knows the correct definition of the word betsuni Feb 24 #98

Israel's Likud are far-right theofascist oppressors radius777 Feb 24 #121

Yeah. OldBaldy1701E Feb 23 #23

I'm with you, Lunabell, as I AM 'semitic,' firmly Jewish, elleng Feb 23 #8

They were blue and white tins Mossfern Feb 23 #50

YES they were! elleng Feb 23 #51

I deeply support Israel jimfields33 Feb 24 #130

I hear you. nt Wounded Bear Feb 23 #9

If you only ever selectively criticize Israel and Jews Arazi Feb 23 #10

Well then. Lunabell Feb 23 #15

I think they would justifiably moniss Feb 23 #16

Can you name another conflict on DU with even a fraction of the same criticism and condemnation? Arazi Feb 23 #19

Can you angrychair Feb 23 #25

Yes, the Saudis and their war on Yemenis Arazi Feb 23 #33

""How about the Kurds?"" You should know very well that THAT was a Trump admin decision. It didn't go over well most TeamProg Feb 23 #49

Still, was an American decision Arazi Feb 23 #54

I seem to recall lots of discussion of it at the time. Crunchy Frog Feb 24 #117

Not getting angrychair Feb 23 #64

I think that 10% figure might be wrong... justaprogressive Feb 24 #111

I guess you weren't around during the US invasion of Iraq. The prevailing opinion was highly critical of bombing Martin68 Feb 23 #26

I was here Arazi Feb 23 #34

Your blithe "move along" is very revealing. You are clearly not someone who is ready to engage in civil discourse Martin68 Feb 23 #44

Nope Arazi Feb 23 #52

I can come up with SIX various examples. 1. Russia -we had conversations about genocide of the Chechens. TeamProg Feb 23 #60

I don't suppose you've heard of or read anything by Timothy Snyder, have you? Crunchy Frog Feb 23 #66

Yes I know Tim Snyder Arazi Feb 23 #69

Arazi, your vague "the rest who are suddenly dwelling solely on the I/P war" is a strawman and nothing more. Martin68 Feb 24 #102

I don't know what vicious moniss Feb 23 #41

Yes well it goes both ways Arazi Feb 23 #46

What constitutes "justifiable?" When is it over-retaliation? brush Feb 23 #57

Sigh... I'll go into this one more time Arazi Feb 23 #67

And that's your explanation? You're good with that? You don't think it's over-retaliation? brush Feb 23 #68

Yes. Yes. No. And yes, it's a war zone Arazi Feb 23 #70

I didn't expect more. Why not get rid of warmonger Netanyahu? brush Feb 23 #75

1000% agreed. Arazi Feb 23 #78

Glad we're on the same page on most of this...especially Netanyahu and Hamas. brush Feb 26 #138

It is why I pointed out that it can moniss Feb 23 #58

Hold on, no SINGLE poster here is attacking anyone's chosen religion, alright? I have seen NOTHING to suspect anyone TeamProg Feb 23 #47

Russia and Putin get hammered here as they should, radius777 Feb 24 #128

Soooooo angrychair Feb 23 #22

Well, that's a strawman if I ever saw one Arazi Feb 23 #31

Oh, ok angrychair Feb 23 #37

Well, hundreds of posts vs zero might be a problem but MadameButterfly Feb 23 #40

I've been accused of being an antisemite on here for being critical of Israel. Crunchy Frog Feb 23 #32

You've accused Russia of genocide in Ukraine? Arazi Feb 23 #36

Ukraine a typical war-zone? Reallyyy? MadameButterfly Feb 23 #42

Yes, the Ukraine war is actually fairly typical Arazi Feb 23 #48

I can think of no war that comes close to this destruction of Gaza and numbers of dead women and children along with TeamProg Feb 23 #65

"Typical war zone". yagotme Feb 24 #118

But he is being charged with war crimes for attacking civilians MadameButterfly Feb 24 #131

Russia's aims in Ukraine are explicitly genocidal. Crunchy Frog Feb 23 #53

If my comments don't apply to you, then fine Arazi Feb 23 #59

Editing comment -- nevermind. Sky Jewels Feb 23 #80

Where have I ever said that? (hint: I haven't) Arazi Feb 23 #82

Okay, I'm sorry. I think I got you mixed up with another DUer who has a similar "A" name. Sky Jewels Feb 23 #83

yeah, I only selectively criticize jews. Lunabell Feb 23 #62

You must have mystic powers to know who has criticized who over their lives. Chainfire Feb 24 #109

I see your point, but... cab67 Feb 24 #133

I'm reminded of an old saying. William769 Feb 23 #12

My 2nd wife moniss Feb 23 #17

I, too, am reminded of an old saying. Martin68 Feb 23 #28

Argue on. twodogsbarking Feb 23 #13

I usually don't wade in on these threads senseandsensibility Feb 23 #18

Israel has a right to defend itself! Bucky Feb 23 #21

Really. ismnotwasm Feb 23 #24

Some of us are victims of both. n/t Marcus IM Feb 23 #29

Huh, what? Where is that here? To be clear, that is what we're talking about. Being accused of antisemitism here on D U TeamProg Feb 23 #72

Could you point us to anti-Semitic comments you've seen on DU? Sky Jewels Feb 23 #79

Any who say they have not seen antisemitism sarisataka Feb 23 #84

Same here. Marcus IM Feb 23 #27

That's odd. OilemFirchen Feb 23 #30

Same with me .... Mossfern Feb 23 #76

I'll crawl out on a limb and jump around on it and say I've never had a good word for Netanyahu or Likud TheKentuckian Feb 23 #90

It's the new McCarthyism. But the youth/PoC/smart folks won't be silenced. radius777 Feb 23 #55

As far are the Youth/POC are concerned, this will be their world going forward SouthernDem4ever Feb 24 #125

You seem to be in good company. SarahD Feb 23 #61

There's nothing wrong with opposing Israel's social system. David__77 Feb 23 #74

Yep. It's ridiculous. Sky Jewels Feb 23 #77

Both sides have bad leaders mvd Feb 23 #95

When you criticize Israel and their government, do you make a distinction between the two? Beastly Boy Feb 23 #81

I am asking this seriously-- viva la Feb 23 #87

Not exactly what I addressed in my post, but your question illustrates how to not voice your concern or Beastly Boy Feb 24 #105

Well Said, Sir The Magistrate Feb 24 #107

I can see why moniss Feb 24 #112

Another possible angle to look at, is: yagotme Feb 24 #120

rec BootinUp Feb 24 #129

What does IDF stand for? viva la Feb 24 #135

Israeli Defense Forces The Magistrate Feb 24 #136

I understand moniss Feb 24 #116

Thank you. I was a bit taken aback. viva la Feb 24 #137

Thank you for this reasoned post, Beastly Boy. madaboutharry Feb 23 #93

I stand with Lunabell. Butterflylady Feb 23 #89

"Thou shall not kill" is a mistranslation of the hebrew. Mosby Feb 23 #97

Do you support Biden? Are you gonna vote for the Green Party? LeftInTX Feb 23 #94

Criticism of Israel's actions in the war on Gaza is Dorian Gray Feb 24 #99

That's A Good Summary, Sir The Magistrate Feb 24 #100

Often missing from discussions are how Palestinian refugees are treated by Lebanon LeftInTX Feb 24 #103

Remember, people, Netanyahu is a friend of Jared Kushner's father. Just saying. Also, he's not Israel. Joinfortmill Feb 24 #104

I always think its unfair when people say someone is a racist or bigot simply based on what they say. nt LexVegas Feb 24 #106

Why do you think that is unfair? TheKentuckian Feb 24 #119

I have no problem with anyone criticizing the Israeli government. Elessar Zappa Feb 24 #108

On all of this, we can agree. Lunabell Feb 24 #110

I 100% agree Cthulu on call Feb 24 #122

Not everyone who criticizes the Israeli govt is called anti-Semitic Kaleva Feb 24 #123

I have no use for Bibi and no use for Hamas lonely bird Feb 24 #124

They are both evil incarnate. Lunabell Feb 24 #126

Israel is not targeting civilians. lapucelle Feb 24 #134

Wish I read it a month earlier question everything Feb 24 #127

I said the same thing not that long ago. cab67 Feb 24 #132