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Ms. Toad

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51. Unfortunately, not everything can be reduced to a sound byte.

Thu Jan 4, 2024, 03:35 PM

Jan 2024

This is a case in point.

While I agree with your general premise - that we need to get better at messaging - it is not a principle which can be universally applied to complex messages.

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How We Squeezed Harvard to Push Claudine Gay Out [View all] WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 OP

Nothing to be proud of. Our education system is under attack by Christian Nationalists. walkingman Jan 2024 #1

Depends on which side you are on. Caliman73 Jan 2024 #44

Correct - Banning books, forbidding diverse discussions on campus, walkingman Jan 2024 #59

Kick dalton99a Jan 2024 #2

Good godz leftstreet Jan 2024 #3

Why wouldn't they be? They got very little pushback. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #4

Not only very little pushback, they got active support - including from many on DU. n/t Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #17

The answer Zeitghost Jan 2024 #20

I have significant experience with plagiarism in academia. Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #22

Call me crazy Zeitghost Jan 2024 #23

And have you reviewed the academic publications of the presidents of other Ivy League schools? Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #24

Thats what i would be curious to see.... TheRealNorth Jan 2024 #39

My experience editing academic articles for law review publication Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #41

She wasn't terminated, she resigned. MichMan Jan 2024 #48

As I explained earlier, Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #52

Must be nice having a guaranteed job paying a nearly $1 million per year for life. MichMan Jan 2024 #53

The pay is probably not guaranteed. Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #60

I went to a large Public University..... TheRealNorth Jan 2024 #61

Are they being paid to work full time, Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #62

I have no clue TheRealNorth Jan 2024 #66

Salary doesn't generally mean you get to come and go as you please. Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #67

. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #29

They sure did get support. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2024 #21

Agreed. Caliman73 Jan 2024 #45

One's enemies will use whatever you give them to hurt you. SYFROYH Jan 2024 #5

But somehow it's ok for Gorsuch to have done it. Nt spooky3 Jan 2024 #6

It's not about "attributing source material" -- Rufo spells out very clearly what this is about. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #28

Then people need to go after Harvard for allowing this to happen! BComplex Jan 2024 #7

Amen. Thank you, brother. Know your enemy. ancianita Jan 2024 #8

Agreed! Initech Jan 2024 #47

I still don't understand how... JadedButHopeful Jan 2024 #9

They didn't let me down. live love laugh Jan 2024 #10

The right did what they are good at. Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #19

You're right... JadedButHopeful Jan 2024 #36

That messaging strategy can't be dishonest just for the sake of producing a sound bite. Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #40

Not saying that we have to be dishonest JadedButHopeful Jan 2024 #50

Unfortunately, not everything can be reduced to a sound byte. Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #51

That's my point, though ... JadedButHopeful Jan 2024 #65

You can't force complex issues into sound bytes. Ms. Toad Jan 2024 #68

If you believe that's true... JadedButHopeful Jan 2024 #69

They got shitty, shitty advice from their institutions' lawyers. WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #25

But, from a legal/communication standpoint, I get what she was saying. Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2024 #35

It was obvious to me that there was undermining at play. live love laugh Jan 2024 #11

Reminds me of the orchestrated plan implemented to destroy the Fairness Doctrine. summer_in_TX Jan 2024 #12

All you had to do was turn on AM radio or any right wing tv "news" station. progressoid Jan 2024 #13

LOl at "The Italian theorist Antonio Gramsci..." Prairie Gates Jan 2024 #14

Antonio Gramsci created the concept of hegemony. Earth-shine Jan 2024 #18

Yes, I know Prairie Gates Jan 2024 #37

Fascists in the 20's and 30's cribbed from Communists freely, and admitted it... Caliman73 Jan 2024 #46

Something feels incredibly fishy with this tornado34jh Jan 2024 #15

Can you say it's fishy when the process is laid out right before you? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #26

Nope. Just shows how unprepared Liberalism is to defend itself. Caliman73 Jan 2024 #49

Only if it wasn't for the fact that the board didn't stand up for her tornado34jh Jan 2024 #64

Exxcellent post and moniss Jan 2024 #16

That simple malaise Jan 2024 #27

Agree WhiskeyGrinder bucolic_frolic Jan 2024 #30

Rufo, DeSantis, and Stefanik are not "blue bloods" obamanut2012 Jan 2024 #32

well the discussion is about schools of elite academia, not political front men. /nt bucolic_frolic Jan 2024 #33

In 2010, Karl Rove openly announced in the WSJ the Republicans plan to take over as many states as possible. Lonestarblue Jan 2024 #31

The NYT has published an article by Dr. Gay. It's a good read. Lonestarblue Jan 2024 #34

Mid morning kick WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #38

How about the select few here that agree with Rufo? tenderfoot Jan 2024 #42

This was blatant Fox News bullying and a right wing power grab. Initech Jan 2024 #43

Claudine Gay should blame Claudine Gay Sympthsical Jan 2024 #54

According to some posts I've seen, plagiarism is so widespread and common, that everybody in academia is guilty MichMan Jan 2024 #55

The apologias are wild to me Sympthsical Jan 2024 #56

Post removed Post removed Jan 2024 #57

Do you usually take Christopher Rufo on good faith? WhiskeyGrinder Jan 2024 #58

"It's about reinforcing white supremacy." drmeow Jan 2024 #63