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Cyrano

(15,041 posts)
Fri Nov 24, 2023, 04:00 PM Nov 2023

The NY Times is not Fox "news." [View all]

The NY Times is one of the favorite targets of many here on DU. However, I believe they are still one of the great newspapers in the world. (Having said that, I've put on my flak suit and helmet in preparation for the incoming attacks.)

I've been reading the NY Times since I was a teenager in high school. It helped get me interested in science, the arts, politics, history, geography, and the rest of the world around us. It kept me informed a whole lot about a whole lot.

And yes, they've fucked up over the years with too much "both sides do it," and their negligent coverage of the 9/11 Iraq lie. However, in every single election since 1960, they've endorsed the Democratic candidate for the presidency. That's 60 years of standing behind the Democrat's values and idea of America, as opposed to the mindless crap that Republicans try to feed us.

They're not MSNBC. But much of what is on MSNBC is opinion. Aside from the OP page, the NY Times is (mostly) about the practice of journalism. Think about this. How many MAGAs, and other wingnuts of every variety, have ever read the NY Times?

Why don't we all stop wasting keystrokes on those who are not our "Domestic Enemies" and trying to destroy our freedoms. If the NY Times went out of business tomorrow, the corrupt fascists called the Republican Party would be in joy beyond compare. Is that what we really want?

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I find that most of the "news" resources people claim to rely on here... brooklynite Nov 2023 #1
+1. good way of putting it stopdiggin Nov 2023 #22
I find that most of the pronunciamentos here dpibel Nov 2023 #36
Thank you! Hekate Nov 2023 #2
In some ways, NYT is w much worse than FOX Fiendish Thingy Nov 2023 #3
You said it far better than I could and agree with every word. Used to read the NYT, gave up on them quite a while ago. SheilaAnn Nov 2023 #4
Same PortTack Nov 2023 #15
Yeah, I see their flaws Cyrano Nov 2023 #5
"it is a horse race" TwilightZone Nov 2023 #8
The focus of their reporting should be on the stakes, not the odds Fiendish Thingy Nov 2023 #14
It's up to the paper's editorial staff and Op-Ed pundits to frame Trump and his "Nazi-like" intentions. Cyrano Nov 2023 #19
No polls? No MOS? No experts? dpibel Nov 2023 #27
You misinterpreted my post Fiendish Thingy Nov 2023 #30
It is worse than that moniss Nov 2023 #24
Duplicate post deleted Cyrano Nov 2023 #6
So you're unhappy with one opinion writer and two reporters brooklynite Nov 2023 #18
Sorry I didn't list their entire roster Fiendish Thingy Nov 2023 #26
Re Maggie Haberman... Basic LA Nov 2023 #23
Her tepid criticism is exchanged for planting exclusive quotes from Trump and insiders Fiendish Thingy Nov 2023 #31
Thank you! Basic LA Nov 2023 #32
You can bet her competitors are jealous of the fact she has such a good source from the Trump side. ificandream Nov 2023 #39
Any publication that thinks that Maggie Haberman is a journalist is a publication that should be ignored LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #34
Thanks for all that Basic LA Nov 2023 #35
That shows how little his five-and-dime lawyers know about the media. ificandream Nov 2023 #40
God darn it, you have hit the nail on the head. jrthin Nov 2023 #29
I enjoy them a lot. They were better in their younger days,... chouchou Nov 2023 #7
The Times has its opinionists, for sure. I read them, cachukis Nov 2023 #9
OPINION: The NY Times owes Hillary Clinton an apology LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #10
Kevin told everybody it was a plot. czarjak Nov 2023 #16
If the Times "refused" to print the quote (which I don't believe), how did the tweeter get it? ificandream Nov 2023 #41
The NYT should tell readers whether it helped crooked FBI agents get Trump elected in 2016 LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #11
The NY Times is imperfect. But they are far less imperfect than some other sources. Tommy Carcetti Nov 2023 #12
The NY Times primary objective is to stave off any threat to the status-quo tenderfoot Nov 2023 #13
WaPo and BigOleDummy Nov 2023 #17
Truer, but, they do act like it at times. republianmushroom Nov 2023 #20
Interestingly, many local papers carry NYT stories on their front pages maxsolomon Nov 2023 #21
+100 we talk about information silos stopdiggin Nov 2023 #25
No one cares about who they endorse SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2023 #28
The NYT and Haberman were determined to elect TFG and carried the Clinton email story for an unreal number of times LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #33
Just remember this: All pundits are just guessing. ificandream Nov 2023 #42
The NYT is lying about Sarandon LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2023 #37
Thank you, thank you, thank you! ificandream Nov 2023 #38
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