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Major Nikon

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Sun Feb 19, 2023, 11:28 AM Feb 2023

Well past time to set the record straight on the Carter presidency [View all]

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but this needs to be said again. We've all heard the myth of Carter being a lousy President and Reagan being such a great one, but pretty much everything about this is exactly wrong. Here's all sorts of bullet points here, but I'll cover the big ones:

1) Carter caused stagflation, Reagan fixed it

This is perhaps the biggest lie and is so misinformed it's pathetic, but still keeps getting repeated. The reality is stagflation was caused by the failed monetary and fiscal policies of Fed Chairman, Arthur F. Burns and Nixon's interference and failed policies. Carter replaced him with Paul Volcker who economists of all stripes credit with fixing stagflation. He was so successful Reagan was forced to reappoint him, and Reagan's fiscal policies were so disastrous even Republicans in congress eventually reversed them. Still this myth persists and it's 180 degrees from reality.

2) Carter was soft on defense, Reagan was strong on defense

This myth began with the leaked lies of Team B which was an effort created by Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Bush Sr. We now know virtually everything they produced was a lie, but somehow this myth persists. Carter began to cut the defense budget because he knew the Soviets were swirling the bowl. He knew this because the CIA was providing him with accurate intelligence we now know was in fact completely accurate. That didn't stop the ratfucking of Carter or Reagan exploding the defense budget completely needlessly, all based on the lies of Team B. This is arguably the greatest example of the disastrous consequences of politicizing our intelligence community and we never learned from it.

3) Carter rationed fuel and caused long lines at filling stations.

Fuel rationing and lines at the pump started under Nixon. Carter was the first president to even have an energy policy and had we followed it the US and the entire world would be a much better place today. Carter understood energy better than any other president and was truly a visionary foiled by a public who can't see beyond the next election.

The reality is that Carter was by far the greatest president of my lifetime. Anyone who disputes this is probably basing their opinion on pure unadulterated bullshit. One of the saddest parts about his last trip around the sun is he won't get the credit he so richly deserves in his lifetime.

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Damned right! hlthe2b Feb 2023 #1
Well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2023 #2
Thank you - needs to be said over and over. The GOP propaganda machine walkingman Feb 2023 #3
Not to mention the fact True Blue American Feb 2023 #18
An evidence free CT. former9thward Feb 2023 #66
Not true! True Blue American Feb 2023 #77
President Clinton was not "required" to sign it. MichMan Feb 2023 #81
Clinton protected workers in amendments! True Blue American Feb 2023 #83
Of course not MichMan Feb 2023 #84
Workers were not protected by anything in NAFTA former9thward Feb 2023 #86
OPEC was created during Carter's term. That had an immediate shock on world oil prices and . OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2023 #4
opec was created in 1960 moonshinegnomie Feb 2023 #15
You are correct. I was mistaken, but it was the OPEC oil embargo that created major problems OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2023 #16
Carter's term started in January 1977. nt Justice matters. Feb 2023 #20
Most importantly, Carter popped the OPEC price bubble peppertree Feb 2023 #31
+1000% Roy Rolling Feb 2023 #78
Thank you for posting this Doc Sportello Feb 2023 #5
Not to be picky, but the actor was James Whitmore who did the wonderful halfulglas Feb 2023 #25
It's not picky Doc Sportello Feb 2023 #52
And if we'd followed Carter"s energy policy, the world would be a cleaner and safer place csziggy Feb 2023 #6
It's a result whenever Republicans claim electoral victory. jaxexpat Feb 2023 #24
No small wonder DENVERPOPS Feb 2023 #54
Bush and Cheney families protecting their oil interests. wnylib Feb 2023 #68
He was wrong on the draft, which basically establishes a State Religion. old as dirt Feb 2023 #7
This was a response to the Soviet invasion of Afganistan Major Nikon Feb 2023 #9
Now that we're out of Afghanistan, ... old as dirt Feb 2023 #11
And boy, did he get flack for pardoning the draft evaders. halfulglas Feb 2023 #28
Ford issued a pardon Buzz cook Feb 2023 #47
Remember Bonzo's co-star ran against the draft. Wolf Frankula Feb 2023 #87
a golden age of human rights and sanity. rampartc Feb 2023 #8
A thinking man's presidency bucolic_frolic Feb 2023 #10
+1 people mindlessly parrot the old saw about him treestar Feb 2023 #12
Soft of defense? He ordered production of the LGM-118 or MX missile.... paleotn Feb 2023 #13
The B-1 was an utter disaster Major Nikon Feb 2023 #14
Agreed. At the time, effective penetration of Soviet airspace by our bomber fleet,... paleotn Feb 2023 #17
You didn't have to penetrate it for cruise missles Major Nikon Feb 2023 #22
Except that 1 small "mistake" (accidental or even "provoked" by 1 or 2 rogue commanders or bugs...) Justice matters. Feb 2023 #23
All you need DENVERPOPS Feb 2023 #56
I recall alot of the Media at the time DENVERPOPS Feb 2023 #55
Even back then, it's so much easier to repeat catchy slogans... paleotn Feb 2023 #58
One thing I found out about Carter was about that... TreasonousBastard Feb 2023 #75
and.... markie Feb 2023 #19
Carter messed with drug money banks were moving offshore randr Feb 2023 #21
Jimmy Carter is the President who won the Cold War. Tarzanrock Feb 2023 #26
My image of the Reagan defense increases heckles65 Feb 2023 #27
Plus - the role of Amerada-Hess in the '79 gas lines peppertree Feb 2023 #29
I don't think 2 was all that off, but I'm glad it was like that Polybius Feb 2023 #30
Most underratted President AncientOfDays Feb 2023 #32
All reagan had, at its most basic, was better PR. calimary Feb 2023 #33
Stagflation was caused by OPEC. speak easy Feb 2023 #34
A catalyst exacerbated by failed monetary and fiscal policies Major Nikon Feb 2023 #37
'The reason spikes in oil prices don't cause stagflation today' speak easy Feb 2023 #43
They have Major Nikon Feb 2023 #44
point taken speak easy Feb 2023 #49
Nixon's 1971 removing us from the gold exchange standard was the catalyst for higher inflation. roamer65 Feb 2023 #65
Whip Inflation Now. GoCubsGo Feb 2023 #35
I never believed any of that stuff. I also knew Reagan was a half wit. Butterflylady Feb 2023 #36
Carter also gave the prescient but much-maligned "Crisis of Confidence" national address... keep_left Feb 2023 #38
President Carter Ladythatvotesblue Feb 2023 #39
You left out the part about Reagan's treasonous undermining of Carter flashman13 Feb 2023 #40
Bravo, right on target Flash.......... DENVERPOPS Feb 2023 #51
Bleak that this is not common knowledge. As with today's issues, where's the media?? JudyM Feb 2023 #63
Our beloved U.S. Media DENVERPOPS Feb 2023 #67
But they're librul! JudyM Feb 2023 #69
Yes! EliteLiberal Feb 2023 #64
like it republianmushroom Feb 2023 #41
Thanks for reminding us all of the lies the GOP told about Carter. They built a huge fund-raising Martin68 Feb 2023 #42
So Carter really fixed stagflation by appointing Paul Volcker KNOWING it cost him the election andym Feb 2023 #45
During his term, the number of Mr.Bill Feb 2023 #46
History will judge him far more kindly Ellen Forradalom Feb 2023 #48
I lived through all of these lies. And you are so right about the energy bill. It's worth getting Samrob Feb 2023 #50
Camp David Accords and Buzz cook Feb 2023 #53
He also had the 6th highest IQ of all U.S. presidents DeeDeeNY Feb 2023 #57
K&R for the post and the discussion. crickets Feb 2023 #59
I posted on another thread about Carter earlier.... albacore Feb 2023 #60
I can't get over Reagan removing the solar panels Carter had installed on the White House. ShazzieB Feb 2023 #61
It wasn't just GOP propaganda that was unfair. snot Feb 2023 #62
..Ted Koppel..."America Held Hostage" thomski64 Feb 2023 #71
It seems like Carter could have gotten us Universal Health/Medicare for All Stargleamer Feb 2023 #70
Please cite the source of your reading. niyad Feb 2023 #72
I can't find the source of my reading--it's been a while--but this site says something similar Stargleamer Feb 2023 #74
Carter was partly a reaction to Nixon/Watergate. moondust Feb 2023 #73
Hi Major Nikon. Good points. Is it okay if Baitball Blogger Feb 2023 #76
The primary challenge by Kennedy was pretty devastating to the re election campaign MichMan Feb 2023 #79
Busy senior also cut the military The Jungle 1 Feb 2023 #80
I wept in 1980 BlueMTexpat Feb 2023 #82
Nothing wrong with "Preaching to the choir" Fritz Walter Feb 2023 #85
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