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LovingA2andMI

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Thu Jul 29, 2021, 07:06 PM Jul 2021

Behind the Masks, a Mystery: How Often Do the Vaccinated Spread the Virus? [View all]

The recommendation that vaccinated people in some parts of the country dust off their masks was based largely on one troublesome finding, according to Dr. Rochelle Walensky, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

****New research showed that vaccinated people infected with the Delta variant carry tremendous amounts of the virus in the nose and throat, she said in an email responding to questions from The New York Times.

The finding contradicts what scientists had observed in vaccinated people infected with previous versions of the virus, who mostly seemed incapable of infecting others.

That conclusion dealt Americans a heavy blow: People with so-called breakthrough infections — cases that occur despite full vaccination — of the Delta variant may be just as contagious as unvaccinated people, even if they have no symptoms.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/29/health/cdc-masks-vaccinated-transmission.html?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes

It's Falling All Apart. Back to the drawing board....
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It seems the CDC continually is looking in the rear-view mirror for guidance. Pobeka Jul 2021 #1
Here is the question? LovingA2andMI Jul 2021 #2
Booster increases antibody levels, which is why it's going to be effective on top of two shots. LisaL Jul 2021 #3
Because the booster boosts your antibody, immune system levels. Pobeka Jul 2021 #5
Not unless the Booster have ANTIBODIES in the Booster... LovingA2andMI Jul 2021 #11
Some education on how vaccines work is in order. LisaL Jul 2021 #12
This is literally a throwaway comment.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2021 #15
Vaccines or boosters don't contain antibodies. LisaL Jul 2021 #16
There were are the antibodies.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2021 #20
Really, take some time to learn how the vaccines work. Pobeka Jul 2021 #24
Paywall... nt Pobeka Jul 2021 #19
LisaL said it succinctly and correctly. Pobeka Jul 2021 #23
The Israeli study has been shown to be flawed NickB79 Jul 2021 #21
It's not flawed. It's misinterpreted. LeftInTX Jul 2021 #30
Flawed or misinterpreted, either way the vaccines are still working well NickB79 Jul 2021 #31
I agree. Why are we being told we don't need boosters, when Israel is already starting LisaL Jul 2021 #4
Perhaps they think if it's announced that the vaccines are less effective than previously stated ... Earth-shine Jul 2021 #6
I think it's kind of obvious by now vaccines are less effective against delta than LisaL Jul 2021 #7
Geeze, people in the USA can panic over nonfactual stuff anyway. Pobeka Jul 2021 #8
Literally, how do we know how "well" they work.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2021 #9
It worked just fine against the original virus. LisaL Jul 2021 #10
People are getting breakthrough infections LovingA2andMI Jul 2021 #13
It's a whole different variant now, compared to what was circulating during clinical trials. LisaL Jul 2021 #18
You are saying that if it's not 100% effective, it's no good? scipan Jul 2021 #34
You do understand that no vaccine is 100% effective, right? nt. Mariana Jul 2021 #37
Actually, it does work well at preventing the most serious consequences. Pobeka Jul 2021 #17
... it doesn't have a chance to replicate to prevent those two things. Earth-shine Jul 2021 #27
There is no 100% shield, masks, vaccines, ... Pobeka Jul 2021 #29
This is what Fauci said in the very beginning. Unless proactive, we are usually chasing the wiggs Jul 2021 #14
Does anyone know if Moderna needs a booster too? nt. Akacia Jul 2021 #22
Thus far, Pfizer and Moderna have been very similar in efficacy to variants. Pobeka Jul 2021 #25
Thank you, I just have not been able to find any information on moderna just pfizer. Akacia Jul 2021 #26
Pfizer keeps putting themselves in the news. Moderna is laying low. Earth-shine Jul 2021 #28
A DUer who is in the Moderna trial group posted here... myccrider Jul 2021 #32
As far as I can tell, either approach will work. LisaL Jul 2021 #33
I found the post. Here... myccrider Jul 2021 #35
I've wondered as well. Found info on flu vaccines scipan Jul 2021 #36
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