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grantcart

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Tue Oct 16, 2012, 10:32 AM Oct 2012

Update on the Gravis Marketing Fraud investigation; Statistician offers proof of fraud in the polls. [View all]

Last edited Tue Oct 16, 2012, 11:37 AM - Edit history (1)

There is a small working group that includes some very very talented researchers who have gone way beyond my modest little initial postings.

A short teaser. There is more to come.

We now have a small mountain of hard cold facts that will show a long sustained career of shadowy marketing and fraudulent activity by Kaplan and his other known associates.

There will be no doubt in the end that Kaplan was not a pollster and had some financial interest in misrepresenting himself and the activities of Gravis Marketing.

Let me make this absolutely clear. No doubt. None.

The information is so categorical, and so voluminous that it will raise substantial questions as to how the polling community could be so completely duped.

We have reason to believe that even the claim to attend DeVry, not a particularly bold claim, may not be true.

In fact the only fact that Kaplan has put out that we cannot refute is this one



http://www.site.dougkaplan.net/Doug_Kaplan.html

By the age of 14, I had read several books




One DUer visited Gravis yesterday

No one was there but made the following report


The office is about 10x10.. very small with 4 small desks inside.


Our earlier post has opened up a new front on Gravis Marketing as a fraud.



A statistician has examined his numbers and found them to be statistically impossible

dawolf at logarchism.com

http://www.logarchism.com/2012/10/14/a-gravis-fraud/

has published a statistical exam of Gravis Marketing and concluded that the numbers published are not statistically possible given the sample size. You need to follow his careful point by point argument to get the full weight but this chart gives you the idea:





That article has become the foundation for a thread at Intrade:

https://www.intrade.com/v4/forum/ (there is no direct link to the thread, you have to go to the political discussion forum)

thanks to EmeraldCityGrl for the heads up on that
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K & R. Keep up the good work. FSogol Oct 2012 #1
thank you on behalf of 'the working group' grantcart Oct 2012 #8
thanks so much.. oldhippydude Oct 2012 #2
Great stuff, saw this earlier. MuhkRahker Oct 2012 #3
welcome to DU! renate Oct 2012 #18
K&R n.t myrna minx Oct 2012 #4
. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #5
Limbaugh *knew* this was coming. He *knew* Gravis was going to be outed. Sheepshank Oct 2012 #6
has Limbaugh made any comments about Gravis? grantcart Oct 2012 #14
My not so very clear reference...... Sheepshank Oct 2012 #21
Projectionism. Baitball Blogger Oct 2012 #24
It's not just a psychological phenomena....it's a deliberate political strategy n/t Sheepshank Oct 2012 #30
This link gets you into the InTrade thread BlueStreak Oct 2012 #7
Posted to for later viewing; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2012 #9
K&R BumRushDaShow Oct 2012 #10
Great work gademocrat7 Oct 2012 #11
Excellent work! Jazzgirl Oct 2012 #12
Good work! yellerpup Oct 2012 #13
This leads to a much larger problem matt819 Oct 2012 #15
Back in the day, I took journalism classes in college Maeve Oct 2012 #16
K&R. Wonderful work. Let this be the first of MANY frauds exposed. nt progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #17
fantastic work! renate Oct 2012 #19
Has anyone been sending this to Nate Silver? Fawke Em Oct 2012 #20
I sure have! MuhkRahker Oct 2012 #22
Welcome to DU! Lone_Star_Dem Oct 2012 #33
Hurrah for grantcart & Co.!! beac Oct 2012 #23
K&R and Shared. patrice Oct 2012 #25
K&R speedoo Oct 2012 #26
Nice work, grantcart and others who contributed to exposing Gravis Marketing. HooptieWagon Oct 2012 #27
K&R. cliffordu Oct 2012 #28
This was really impressive work. And as other people have said in the thread, is this the only sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #29
Kick! Denzil_DC Oct 2012 #31
Grantcart, not sure if you saw this diary on Daily Kos re your work: sabrina 1 Oct 2012 #32
$$$ NorCen_CT Oct 2012 #34
K&R. (nt) Kurovski Oct 2012 #35
Kick... MuhkRahker Oct 2012 #36
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