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bucolic_frolic

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24. No, I don't think we're at a hard stop, I think Republicans are flummoxed and feeling it in the gut

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 10:09 AM

Feb 2021

From their perspective, Republicans are faced with only bad choices. They either pass on condemning the insurrection, which will be incredibly bad for their political careers, or they convict and suffer whatever the consequences that they would never tell and about which the public can only speculate. It may or may not include or be limited to sources of campaign cash. It could simply be about worshiping money as the primary purpose of life.

"From blood - money. From money - blood."

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The House Managers have convinced all of the Republicans it's possible to convince [View all] StarfishSaver Feb 2021 OP

Then call witnesses and subpoena documents. LuvLoogie Feb 2021 #1

What good would calling witnessed in the impeachment trial do at this point? StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #5

Get it into the record. Hugin Feb 2021 #6

The impeachment record is not the only record that will come of all of this StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #8

What's the rush? Hugin Feb 2021 #18

Not a rush, just strategy StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #20

Most of those other avenues aren't as public. Hugin Feb 2021 #23

Seems like Tuberville and McCarthy and Pence can answer the 2 key questions about Trump: TheRickles Feb 2021 #26

You're assuming they'd be cooperating witnesses StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #32

House and Senate hearings are public StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #28

They found the entirety of the results of the Iran/Contra hearings showing... Hugin Feb 2021 #33

I only know 1 local person who has heard of the "impeachment". Most people do not care at all about LiberalArkie Feb 2021 #61

Not even Secret Service testimony? ancianita Feb 2021 #36

I think that could be done with a sworn statement, if needed StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #40

Okay. I see. Thanks. ancianita Feb 2021 #43

You were SO right Hugin! Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #69

... Hugin Feb 2021 #70

Why? I think it's great. To me, I think the team is much more Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #71

Well shit, scratch all that, they caved for some reason. Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #72

A lot DonaldsRump Feb 2021 #9

You're assuming witnesses will come in and just say just what you want them to say StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #11

I'm a lawyer, so I get that DonaldsRump Feb 2021 #14

I agree that an investigation must be done StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #15

Justice matters. If democrats appear to put on half a case rainin Feb 2021 #41

So disappointed :(. You are so right!!! Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #73

You were SO right!! Bravo LL Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #68

This message was self-deleted by its author LuvLoogie Feb 2021 #2

The Managers may call witnesses, do you think? DonaldsRump Feb 2021 #3

I'm not sure that's a good idea StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #7

Our wires crossed DonaldsRump Feb 2021 #12

I'm not sure it's a good idea to drag the impeachment out that way StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #13

Right, but don't let trump off the hook on impeachment. DonaldsRump Feb 2021 #16

We are in total agreement! StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #17

And for that, you get one of my last remaining hearts! Happy Valentine's Day! DonaldsRump Feb 2021 #19

Aww, thanks. StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #21

Ditto! DonaldsRump Feb 2021 #22

Every day spent on the impeachment trial calguy Feb 2021 #25

So maybe bdamomma Feb 2021 #60

The politicians on the Hill are much more knowledgeable and skilled than we will ever be calguy Feb 2021 #62

Omg this is hysterical! Disagreement with House? Omg Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #56

Certainly, I hope for a conviction. SkeezerRedux Feb 2021 #4

At This Point It's Not About "Convincing" JimGinPA Feb 2021 #10

Agreed, and let them know this isn't "politics as usual" HariSeldon Feb 2021 #27

hmm.... bdamomma Feb 2021 #66

No, I don't think we're at a hard stop, I think Republicans are flummoxed and feeling it in the gut bucolic_frolic Feb 2021 #24

I agree, gab13by13 Feb 2021 #29

For me, it's about putting everything and everyone on the record, now ms liberty Feb 2021 #30

I agree. Witnesses and other shit would just waste time... Wounded Bear Feb 2021 #31

Exactly StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #35

Allow me to clarify how the McCarthy/Trump phone call went down. gab13by13 Feb 2021 #34

It's not as simple as you think StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #37

Then call Pence out. flying_wahini Feb 2021 #47

Looks like we have the witness, gab13by13 Feb 2021 #49

I think that's a really smart move StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #51

Thank you starfishsaver mahina Feb 2021 #57

I'd like to have Republicans testify Gore1FL Feb 2021 #38

Typo in the headline. Agree w the post. We will see what happens. (Nt) FreepFryer Feb 2021 #39

Sure wish I had the same crystal ball DarleenMB Feb 2021 #42

I think the next stage, Federal, State and local courts, safeinOhio Feb 2021 #44

none of that stops a repeat performance bigtree Feb 2021 #45

Since impeachment isn't a criminal proceeding, acquittal doesn't let him off the hook. mn9driver Feb 2021 #46

It sets a precedence for future presidents to do the same. gab13by13 Feb 2021 #50

Keeping Reeps in the hot seat is OK with me. ananda Feb 2021 #48

Ruh Roh, looks like Jamie Raskin agrees with me. gab13by13 Feb 2021 #52

I think calling Herrerra Butler is really smart StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #54

Thank you. It is the smoking gun. gab13by13 Feb 2021 #55

So Raskin read your post? Excellent! :-) TheRickles Feb 2021 #58

Video below. Maybe it's one of those great minds think alike moments. Bravo gab13x13 Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2021 #65

It's THE freaking smoking gun, gab13by13 Feb 2021 #53

This 👆 flibbitygiblets Feb 2021 #67

siege tactics favor the managers bigly, now's the time to redouble resolve and popcornage bringthePaine Feb 2021 #59

I don't believe the country survives an acquittal Ponietz Feb 2021 #63

We'll survive StarfishSaver Feb 2021 #64