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meadowlander

(4,411 posts)
24. People are entitled to their views.
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 07:29 PM
Sep 2020

The problem in the US is the two-party system that makes real progress impossible, not people who don't get that excited about election after election where their choices are a right-leaning centrist and a fascist.

And for the record, yes I voted for Hillary and yes I'm going to vote for Biden. But I don't think the Green party is the enemy and I don't think it's constructive to paint them all as political naifs or uncompromising unicorn chasers or people in bed with Putin.

There is an actual by God existential climate emergency going on right now. In a rational society how to respond to it would be the only thing politicians would be talking about. To the extent that they can keep focus on that reality and for the need for serious electoral reform in the US, I support them.

The two most successful democracies today (Germany and New Zealand) both use mixed-member proportional voting and have a large number of political parties. It would be healthy for US democracy if there was a need for coalition building across the progressive left to centre right instead of the current see-sawing between governance by the middle hamstrung by obstruction from the right and governance by the right-wing lunatic fringe tearing down our institutions.

At some point there will be a critical mass of Republicans sick of voting for Tea Party crypto-fascists and Progressives sick of voting for Centre-Right consensus candidates. A move to multiple parties would be good for America. We just need one side to blink first.

PS jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #1
they should start at the local level and gradually expand their base instead of starting at the top msongs Sep 2020 #2
The fact they fail so horribly at being able to do that makes me question their motivations jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #3
That's what I said 20 years ago to some earnest youngster. At that time I think neither of us... Hekate Sep 2020 #32
I used to be a Green Party member. Codeine Sep 2020 #4
Same here. Don't like what they've been doing. It's too bad, GreenPartyVoter Sep 2020 #16
Follow the money. Laelth Sep 2020 #5
Agreed a hundred percent. jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #6
F*CK 'EM. lastlib Sep 2020 #7
.... jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #8
Green Party is great in a parliamentary system where 3rd parties can be grantcart Sep 2020 #9
Another description: The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #10
Spot on assessment ! Docreed2003 Sep 2020 #11
+10,000 jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #15
Jill Stein is a Putin lover. roamer65 Sep 2020 #12
To quote the Bard, "What's in a name?" DFW Sep 2020 #13
Honestly, I just ignore them. demmiblue Sep 2020 #14
Spoilers. LakeArenal Sep 2020 #17
Not voting, but here's my choice mcar Sep 2020 #18
Nice in theory..but in practice they're stillcool Sep 2020 #19
🖕🏼 we can do it Sep 2020 #20
GREEN Party: Getting Republicans Elected Every November DinahMoeHum Sep 2020 #21
GREEN Party: Getting Republicans Elected Every November DinahMoeHum Sep 2020 #22
A vote for Jill Stein was a vote for trump Gothmog Sep 2020 #23
People are entitled to their views. meadowlander Sep 2020 #24
Thank you for this response Ani Yun Wiya Sep 2020 #30
When the choice is a "right leaning centrist" and a fascist jorgevlorgan Sep 2020 #33
The Left Auxiliary Of The Republican Party, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2020 #25
I agree with their views a lot of the time, but.. mvd Sep 2020 #26
They are a bunch of elite, entitled WhiteTara Sep 2020 #27
Euro, Canadian Greens are fine. The American Greens have been subverted Tarc Sep 2020 #28
That Photo With Putin Says It All Willto Sep 2020 #29
They exist in the US to help Republicans win. They don't care score the environment or any other li JI7 Sep 2020 #31
You've neglected a more appropriate answer: Act_of_Reparation Sep 2020 #34
The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. dawg Sep 2020 #35
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