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Jillgirl

(64 posts)
67. Making a mess is easy.
Mon Aug 3, 2020, 07:42 AM
Aug 2020

Trump has influence in lots of places. Could he not raise enough doubt in enough states so that neither candidate will get a clear majority?

Lots of people fear waiting in line on Election Day, so there is likely to be a lot more mail-in voting than in the past. But the Postal Service is in crisis -- who knows if those ballots will get delivered. I'm sure there are lots more excuses that can be drummed up to make sure the vote count looks, and maybe is, illegitimate. States whose leadership is loyal to Trump may contribute to making those things happen and then may use them as an excuse not to certify their votes.

A couple of reasons to hope:
* Deep down perhaps Trumpers in leadership positions value democracy more than Trumpism. Sometimes I think they have to come around because they're not idiots and even setting aside what will happen to the rest of us, they must know that Trump will sell out on them when doing so is convenient for him. Other times I think some of these people are idiots all the way through. Herman Cain died from exposure at a Trump rally.

* The states in which Trump can most easily create doubt are the ones where he has the most influence -- states that probably would vote for him anyway. He has less influence in the blue states. That said, he can still mess with the Postal Service in pretty much any state.

The whole thing is a nail biter. Trump, I believe, will use any means necessary to stay in office. Throwing the election result into chaos may be one of his strategies.

100% agree. OnDoutside Aug 2020 #1
I Didn't Say Her Name Me. Aug 2020 #2
Even Never Trumpers recognise her ability. OnDoutside Aug 2020 #34
You Betcha Me. Aug 2020 #35
Yes, you are so right. FM123 Aug 2020 #3
That'll shake 'em up all right. Woohoo! brush Aug 2020 #4
Excellent point! 2naSalit Aug 2020 #5
This is a doomsday scenario dlk Aug 2020 #6
This Me. Aug 2020 #8
If each state gets 1 vote, Republican-controlled states will likely vote for Trump dlk Aug 2020 #16
I Read It As Me. Aug 2020 #18
That's only for an election where no one get a majority of the electoral vote SCantiGOP Aug 2020 #17
Good Clarification Me. Aug 2020 #19
As Me says. I've read about this. The Speaker of the House, Hortensis Aug 2020 #20
... Me. Aug 2020 #21
One other weird quirk SCantiGOP Aug 2020 #25
President Obama! Michelle, that is! machoneman Aug 2020 #27
Make Hillary Clinton Speaker of the House... CaptainTruth Aug 2020 #28
THat Would Really Destroy THem Me. Aug 2020 #33
Yes, that is another weird aspect SCantiGOP Aug 2020 #57
agreed The Wizard Aug 2020 #14
The state legislatures do not get that vote. whopis01 Aug 2020 #22
Also who's to say that interference would be FOR TRUMP? He is certainly not beloved! Illumination Aug 2020 #7
Behind closed doors most repugs know trumpig is BAD for this country. KS Toronado Aug 2020 #9
Not Sure What You Mean Me. Aug 2020 #10
The question is who would enforce this? Barr? the House? What's the order of enforcement authority? Ford_Prefect Aug 2020 #11
The Secret SErvice Has Been Mentioned Me. Aug 2020 #15
indeed, wow. AllaN01Bear Aug 2020 #12
I seriously doubt that there will be even a handful of states PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #13
Making a mess is easy. Jillgirl Aug 2020 #67
Ever since 2000, people have been predicting PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author Jillgirl Aug 2020 #73
Agree: Most people won't buy it. Jillgirl Aug 2020 #74
That's assuming that the democrats retain control of the house... Chicago1980 Aug 2020 #23
I Believe On Jan.3 Me. Aug 2020 #30
If the election is postponed, with no results until after Jan 3 yellowdogintexas Aug 2020 #52
The election will NOT be postponed. Congress would never vote to do it. oldsoftie Aug 2020 #54
The election is NOT going to be postponed. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2020 #75
I want a bumper sticker ... Miigwech Aug 2020 #24
LOVE That Me. Aug 2020 #29
Thanks. Miigwech Aug 2020 #60
2020 House would decide it long before Jan 21 /nt bucolic_frolic Aug 2020 #26
Another reminder that mid-term elections matter. (nt) klook Aug 2020 #31
And They Sure Did Me. Aug 2020 #32
Not true. Pelosi's term would be up also if moonscape Aug 2020 #36
Not Sure If You're Correct Me. Aug 2020 #37
Sorry for not reading the OP correctly. My brain moonscape Aug 2020 #43
Strange that Laurence Tribe would be wrong...BUT Duppers Aug 2020 #41
Anything that subtle and complex will result in the idiot Trumpers going insane, and they have guns. Towlie Aug 2020 #38
WE Have Guns Too & There Are More Of Us Me. Aug 2020 #39
You sound like George C. Scott in Dr. Strangelove: "I'm not saying we wouldn't get our hair mussed." Towlie Aug 2020 #42
Don't Know About That Me. Aug 2020 #51
Point In Case Me. Aug 2020 #40
So make it clear if the election is messed up that Hillary could be pres scarytomcat Aug 2020 #68
The results will be totally clear at 10pm November 3...Even if parts of the west have not Stuart G Aug 2020 #44
Actually, I think we should let them do it. WinstonSmith4740 Aug 2020 #45
I Would Love That More Than I Can Say Me. Aug 2020 #50
Oh, HELL, yeah! WinstonSmith4740 Aug 2020 #58
+1 Me. Aug 2020 #61
It wouldn't go that long - csziggy Aug 2020 #46
If we get even close to that I'm sure Pelosi will have a whole slew of Executive Orders ready.... George II Aug 2020 #47
So it is true? There was debate about this Cha Aug 2020 #48
It Seems It May Be, So They May Very Well Be Sorry If They Mess With The Election Me. Aug 2020 #49
And, especially that woman! Cha Aug 2020 #53
Well Get This Me. Aug 2020 #55
Wow.. so the ballot wasn't there in the mail for Cha Aug 2020 #56
Yes , I Believe It Was But My Vote For Nadler Went In Anyway Me. Aug 2020 #59
Cheers! Cha Aug 2020 #63
PS Me. Aug 2020 #62
Does that mean "Good Luck"? I couldn't Cha Aug 2020 #64
No Me. Aug 2020 #69
I had to run off to catch a bus so I didn't have Cha Aug 2020 #71
... Me. Aug 2020 #72
That's a GREAT idea! CRK7376 Aug 2020 #65
...and that it doesn't matter if he's barricaded in the WH. nt woodsprite Aug 2020 #66
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