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Celerity

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6. if there have been 10 million total cases, the actual lethality is around 1.3%
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 06:40 PM
Jul 2020

Last edited Wed Jul 8, 2020, 01:50 PM - Edit history (1)

16 million cases would make the lethality around 0.8%. The vast, vast majority (almost all in multiple nations) is in the oldest half of the population, and the vast majority above 45 to 50 years of age.

Here in Sweden, with basically no lock-down, no masks, most places still open, and the all the under-high school level schools never closed we have had one death under 20, and that was a 4 year old a couple months back with multiple comorbidities. Zero deaths in the school age cohort of 5 years old to 20yo, 8 deaths aged 20 to 29, and 16 deaths aged 30 to 39. That is a total of 25 deaths under 40 years of age (which is half the entire population). 25 deaths out of over 5 million people under 40 years of age. That is a rate of 1 death per 200,000. Under 50 years of age there have only been 69 total deaths. Almost 99% of the deaths here have been over 50 years of age, 96% over 60 years of age, 89% over 70 years of age. 68% were over 80yo, 26% of all COVID-19 deaths were over 90 tears of age.

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa



In the US, due to a lack of testing and asymptomatic, a very conservative number would be 6 million cases. at a 5% death rate that works out to 300,00, not the 130,000 it actually is. I think it is likely that at least 10 million people in the US have had it, making a mortality rate of around 1.3%, and that rate is massively skewed to the over 45yo cohorts (especially the over 55yo ones.) The US does have a very slightly higher death rate for the under 40yo, under 35yo cohorts than Sweden does, but that is easily explained as the average US citizen is more unhealthy and has poorer healthcare than an average Swede is and does.

US Coronavirus deaths per day... [View all] Amy-Strange Jul 2020 OP
the overall death rate is no where near 4.63% in reality, millions have had it and were never tested Celerity Jul 2020 #1
Didn't CDC Say 8x, About A Week Ago? ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #2
Who are they checking out anyway? Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #4
Maybe Extrapolation? ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #9
I'll bet a lot of the death rate disinformation is... Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #12
Probable ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #14
Around these parts, OilemFirchen Jul 2020 #20
No testing, no knowledge Nululu Jul 2020 #23
if there have been 10 million total cases, the actual lethality is around 1.3% Celerity Jul 2020 #6
Definitely worth knowing, but... Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #10
You're probably right, but... Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #3
That is not to deny the OPost figure, is it. There are two death rates. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2020 #5
Well said, and... Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #8
Plus, some people are also saying that the death count is actually higher Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #7
10x normal number dying at home in NY at height of pandemic Nululu Jul 2020 #13
Exactly Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #15
The OP is reporting the confirmed cases and the confirmed deaths csziggy Jul 2020 #16
the non reported cases are at a vastly higher rate than the non attributed deaths nt Celerity Jul 2020 #18
Yes, but since they are unreported they cannot be quantified nt csziggy Jul 2020 #19
doesn't matter, the lethality rate is nowhere near 5% is is simply wrong to push that line Celerity Jul 2020 #21
Look at the excess death rate Nululu Jul 2020 #24
But when we say "flu has a 0.01% fatality rate" that means confirmed cases and confirmed deaths Recursion Jul 2020 #25
Sorry, I am not playing these semantic games. Since I posted this I have seen over 10 doctors say Celerity Jul 2020 #26
Regardless of the actually death rate, here are some more scary things to consider... Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #11
This thing hangs on for a long time Bettie Jul 2020 #17
Right !! The young might be dying slower now ... Also we know more people got it in NY than were tes uponit7771 Jul 2020 #22
Kick Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #27
#1 OSHA complaint is people refusing to wear masks Nululu Jul 2020 #28
It is like a death cult, huh? n/t Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #29
Might as well play Russian Roulette Nululu Jul 2020 #30
I think we should cram them all into one room, and... Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #31
Unfortunately they'll kill others Nululu Jul 2020 #32
Not if we don't let them out, and... Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #33
Can't quite go there yet. Nululu Jul 2020 #34
I'm not either, but... Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #35
Difference is they'll be released and pay a fine Nululu Jul 2020 #36
Charge them with attempted Manslaughter n/t Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #37
Introducing TIME's One-Stop Coronavirus Dashboard Amy-Strange Jul 2020 #38
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