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BGBD

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25. That's smart
Wed Apr 1, 2020, 12:57 AM
Apr 2020

I've heard even higher factors tossed around as the potential range by some people who know what they are talking about.

I think this virus is a lot more prevalent than the official numbers. There are probably a couple million infections across the country that haven't been tested, aren't presenting for care, or don't even realize they are sick. I think the fatality rate of infection is much, much lower than we are seeing as well. I think it's going to end up closer to seasonal flu, .1 or .2%, but unlike seasonal flu there is 0 immunity. The virus is just running wild because it has nothing to stop it.

That means the high numbers, like 2 million deaths isn't possible, but something on the order of 300-600k would be in line with worse case, or potentially some higher given the odds of overloading healthcare facilities. From looking at ILI data, I think this thing started spreading around the 3rd or 4th week of the year, but flu was getting the blame. This years predominant flu strains were B-Victoria and H1N1, but it was a pretty bad year, which isn't typical for those two strains to cause. Usually the H3N2 years are the hardest seasonal flu's like back in 2017-2018. I think the driver of that was COVID-19.

Now it has had time to build up and we are seeing hospital overrun, not because we have 75k cases in NY, but because we have 2 million cases in NY.

More people have now died here from Covid19 than on 9/11. lark Mar 2020 #1
Well, yes. Igel Mar 2020 #15
I suspect it wont have a real, 'street-level' political impact until it kills more peeps.. Volaris Apr 2020 #23
A physician on Morning joe this morning said multiply that 165,000 confirmed case Submariner Mar 2020 #2
A retired nurse friend and I have been thinking this for several weeks. BSdetect Mar 2020 #8
I've been multiplying x20 HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #11
That's smart BGBD Apr 2020 #25
So sad. I've been thinking about the people who have died who may not have been identified Ninga Mar 2020 #3
A friend that is my age (over 55) Horse with no Name Mar 2020 #4
Tons, I've been tracking them on Twitter for the past couple dewsgirl Mar 2020 #5
My 76 year old friend had a really bad respiratory sickness for 3-4 weeks in late Dec. - early Jan. lark Apr 2020 #29
Can a person have both C-19 and the flu at the same time? defacto7 Mar 2020 #6
I would further assume that COVID-19 is also not going to be recorded medically the same as Volaris Apr 2020 #24
Congratulations, Donnie world wide wally Mar 2020 #7
Update: calimary Mar 2020 #9
For the record - just for consistency's sake calimary Mar 2020 #10
Watching hour by hour probably doesn't help muriel_volestrangler Mar 2020 #13
+1. yonder Apr 2020 #28
I hope it ends soon GeorgiaPeanut Mar 2020 #12
Tragically on track with this site: pat_k Mar 2020 #14
I think they're all indicating the same statistical upward swings. calimary Mar 2020 #19
Another update calimary Mar 2020 #16
And another update - and the update almost immediately had to be updated. Sheesh. calimary Mar 2020 #17
And yet ANOTHER update... calimary Mar 2020 #18
Btw - We did pass the 9/11 death toll awhile ago, too. calimary Mar 2020 #20
Might be the last update of the night. calimary Apr 2020 #21
Thank You for the updates and all numbers...Yes..Worse than 9/11..and will get worse. Stuart G Apr 2020 #22
Ambulance just roared up! Olafjoy Apr 2020 #26
Oh man...Holy s#*t is right! calimary Apr 2020 #27
Everyone I know is making spread sheets Johnny2X2X Apr 2020 #30
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