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Igel

(35,317 posts)
15. Well, yes.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 03:07 PM
Mar 2020

Except one was intentional done out of spite, taking aim at an identity.

More people die in crashes on Texas highways every year than die on 9/11.

Ascribing agency to the attackers is fairly easy since they had some pretty clear motives and took actions that directly lead to the deaths. The other, not so much. Most of the "agency" in the case of COVID is both ascribed based on assumptions that we make and depends on ignoring everything outside our bubble. It's little different from the blaming of Chinese immigrants in the San Francisco plague in the early 1900s--"we" hated people, there's some connection to be found between "them" and bad things (ignoring everything else), there's fear, and so there's obvious blame and intent. Think of it as a human thing; and if you know it's a human proclivity and not just something "those people" do, and identify as human (not all of us do), it's on the checklist of things to consider looking for in one's own behavior.

This can be more or less extreme. Look at the folk who so disliked Bush II that they insisted LIHOP. Or, worse, accused Bush II &c of a cover up and going through the WTC buildings, drilling holes and planting explosives. Or thermite. Some go to extremes, some just fail to notice. Many are in the middle, as in any reasonably Gaussian distribution.


As for the annual Great Texas Road Kill, I await the national day of remembrance, the memorial, and the curbing of traffic until we're sure there's no more risk. Or the assumption that those doing the killing are especially out to kill. Because otherwise it's worse than 9/11 (yawn), like many other things that we don't give much of a hoot about.


Notice that we also haven't met the annual flu deaths yet. Not by a wide, wide margin. https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/how-many-people-die-of-the-flu-every-year is as good as any; early results for the first few months had it at at least 12k.

The official toll of the 2019-2020 influenza season won't be known for months—not that anyone is really fretting about that right now. Worries over the novel coronavirus, also known as COVID-19, have eclipsed many people's concerns about coming down with a case of the flu.

Not that you ought to take influenza lightly. Flu season in the US, which runs from October through May, claims tens of thousands of lives every year. This season CDC estimates that, as of mid-March, between 29,000 and 59,000 have died due to influenza illnesses. Add to that the misery of hundreds of thousands of flu-related hospitalizations and millions of medical visits for flu symptoms this season.


So 29k to 59k. Currently worldometer has deaths in the US at 3,573. We're at 1/8 of flu season. At best.
More people have now died here from Covid19 than on 9/11. lark Mar 2020 #1
Well, yes. Igel Mar 2020 #15
I suspect it wont have a real, 'street-level' political impact until it kills more peeps.. Volaris Apr 2020 #23
A physician on Morning joe this morning said multiply that 165,000 confirmed case Submariner Mar 2020 #2
A retired nurse friend and I have been thinking this for several weeks. BSdetect Mar 2020 #8
I've been multiplying x20 HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #11
That's smart BGBD Apr 2020 #25
So sad. I've been thinking about the people who have died who may not have been identified Ninga Mar 2020 #3
A friend that is my age (over 55) Horse with no Name Mar 2020 #4
Tons, I've been tracking them on Twitter for the past couple dewsgirl Mar 2020 #5
My 76 year old friend had a really bad respiratory sickness for 3-4 weeks in late Dec. - early Jan. lark Apr 2020 #29
Can a person have both C-19 and the flu at the same time? defacto7 Mar 2020 #6
I would further assume that COVID-19 is also not going to be recorded medically the same as Volaris Apr 2020 #24
Congratulations, Donnie world wide wally Mar 2020 #7
Update: calimary Mar 2020 #9
For the record - just for consistency's sake calimary Mar 2020 #10
Watching hour by hour probably doesn't help muriel_volestrangler Mar 2020 #13
+1. yonder Apr 2020 #28
I hope it ends soon GeorgiaPeanut Mar 2020 #12
Tragically on track with this site: pat_k Mar 2020 #14
I think they're all indicating the same statistical upward swings. calimary Mar 2020 #19
Another update calimary Mar 2020 #16
And another update - and the update almost immediately had to be updated. Sheesh. calimary Mar 2020 #17
And yet ANOTHER update... calimary Mar 2020 #18
Btw - We did pass the 9/11 death toll awhile ago, too. calimary Mar 2020 #20
Might be the last update of the night. calimary Apr 2020 #21
Thank You for the updates and all numbers...Yes..Worse than 9/11..and will get worse. Stuart G Apr 2020 #22
Ambulance just roared up! Olafjoy Apr 2020 #26
Oh man...Holy s#*t is right! calimary Apr 2020 #27
Everyone I know is making spread sheets Johnny2X2X Apr 2020 #30
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