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163. A Ethics hearing is not a finding

Thu Dec 20, 2018, 01:36 AM

Dec 2018

of guilt or innocence. And do you really believe the republicans on the ethics committee would have given Franken a fair hearing?

But I’ll ask again do you have any proof that all 8 accusers were GOP operatives?

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Kirsten Gillibrand and the Al Franken Fury [View all] brooklynite Dec 2018 OP

We shall see... I've yet to encounter anyone involved with 2016 CO caucuses that supports her hlthe2b Dec 2018 #1

She actually sounds more like GOP-lite. allgood33 Dec 2018 #97

Ridiculous. She has the lowest Trump score in the entire Senate and was the only Celerity Dec 2018 #125

She won't get my vote in the primary if she runs kimbutgar Dec 2018 #2

That's not what being stated in other circles. She ranks at the bottom & not only because of Franken PhrankT Dec 2018 #3

My response blue cat Dec 2018 #4

Yes, much better. OnDoutside Dec 2018 #19

Yup Charlotte Little Dec 2018 #27

I agree. Control-Z Dec 2018 #43

Klobuchar voted with Trump over 30 percent of the time; Gillibrand less than 12 percent oberliner Dec 2018 #64

whow. Interesting to say the least. Thanks riversedge Dec 2018 #103

You're welcome oberliner Dec 2018 #116

Thank you wildflower Dec 2018 #133

Not a big fan of hers zeusdogmom Dec 2018 #5

Wait until she sees the Beto machine Guppy Dec 2018 #6

Why is it such a big deal that he was denied due process? ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #7

Anyone with half of a functioning brain could ... and should ... have seen that was a set up UpInArms Dec 2018 #16

By what definition was Tweeden a "news anchor"? JHB Dec 2018 #37

If it was just Tweeden NewJeffCT Dec 2018 #42

Oh, please. You mean the one who said he touched her love handle when she asked... brush Dec 2018 #60

Amen. chelsea0011 Dec 2018 #62

+1 Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2018 #74

+1!!! Dustlawyer Dec 2018 #108

So all 7 women were republican operatives? Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #112

That is pretty dishonest of you... tonedevil Dec 2018 #126

Read the thread Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #134

Don't even try it. Do you have any proof they weren't? brush Dec 2018 #130

Sorry Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #135

See post 60. brush Dec 2018 #137

Yes that's the post where make the accusation Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #138

Those two and Tweeden were in the repug hit job so you do the math. brush Dec 2018 #139

Ok I'll give you Tweeden Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #140

You sound sensible so I don't really think you believe the love handle... brush Dec 2018 #141

As a sensible person I need to see evidence. Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #142

You're choosing to believe a lying birther over Franken wellst0nev0ter Dec 2018 #144

No that's not what I said Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #145

Two other named accusers are trumpanzees wellst0nev0ter Dec 2018 #146

And you're trying to dismiss Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #147

So you're willing to believe lying trumpanzees than Franken wellst0nev0ter Dec 2018 #153

Prove that all 8 were lying Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #156

Prove they're telling the truth wellst0nev0ter Dec 2018 #158

A Ethics hearing is not a finding Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #163

Due process refers to the criminal justice system Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #113

Wrong on both counts ProudLib72 Dec 2018 #115

The opinion of one Republican Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #119

I count it as a strike against her. In baseball it takes three strikes to be out. Tom Rinaldo Dec 2018 #8

Soros is very mad at Gillibrand Gothmog Dec 2018 #9

Soros had a opportunity to run or support a candidate against her in the June Primary... brooklynite Dec 2018 #12

Soros and other big donors will not be supporting Gillibrand Gothmog Dec 2018 #41

Are you a big donor? Renew Deal Dec 2018 #59

This makes me smile Gothmog Dec 2018 #49

she has changed her opinions on issues like guns to be more appealing as a candidate TeamPooka Dec 2018 #10

She may know folks with money who can donate to her campaign Jarqui Dec 2018 #11

MOST candidates aren't doing that well in the early polls... brooklynite Dec 2018 #24

She is below one percent and below about a dozen others Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #36

Gillibrand killed her brand Blue Owl Dec 2018 #13

This person isn't even on my radar. A non-entity..n/t monmouth4 Dec 2018 #14

Can't see her in the top 5 of women candidates bigbrother05 Dec 2018 #33

Who are the top 5 women candidates? oberliner Dec 2018 #65

In no particular order, Warren, Harris, Klobuchar, Baldwin, and Abrams come to mind bigbrother05 Dec 2018 #93

Those are all great candidates oberliner Dec 2018 #118

TAMMY DUCKWORTH! Squinch Dec 2018 #122

only if she says "cadet bonespurs" one more time Hermit-The-Prog Dec 2018 #123

Don't you love it! Squinch Dec 2018 #124

My bad, of course that's the Tammy intended bigbrother05 Dec 2018 #174

If she runs her campaign is going nowhere BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #89

I hate what she did, but I find it interesting that many of the same people Squinch Dec 2018 #15

maybe because she is defiantly unrepentant and only continues to dig deeper when asked? hlthe2b Dec 2018 #18

Because the Anita Hill / Clarence Thomas affair was 27 years ago. MicaelS Dec 2018 #25

Gillibrand is an excellent Senator. Except for the Franken thing. Squinch Dec 2018 #45

+1 MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #53

And Mrs. Lincoln enjoyed the play except for one thing. brush Dec 2018 #61

So you think that Franken's resignation Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #167

Swoosh! brush Dec 2018 #171

Amen to that! /nt romana Dec 2018 #44

THATS probably because most people live in the present and not 1991 BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #91

OK. What's the statute of limitations? Squinch Dec 2018 #107

Biden is a man Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #114

. Squinch Dec 2018 #121

Good point Quixote1818 Dec 2018 #161

I'd much rather have Franken in the Senate than her. panader0 Dec 2018 #17

I'd give Franken a donation to run in Kristen's name mchill Dec 2018 #28

I really dislike the framing of this as having done something to Franken dsc Dec 2018 #20

Dovere seems to have some connection with her, this reads as a puff piece to me. She has also OnDoutside Dec 2018 #21

Al Franken was a strong reliable voice in the Senate FakeNoose Dec 2018 #22

Mercifully, this one will fizzle on the launch pad. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2018 #23

I'm surprised that she's surprised DFW Dec 2018 #29

I had the same reaction to her "surprise" kcr Dec 2018 #55

Exactly-- the Franken thing was also bad because it was an example of her lack of political acumen. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2018 #94

I will vote for her only if she wins the nomination. MicaelS Dec 2018 #26

Gee, it's been at least a day or two... Hypocrisy abounds... LakeSuperiorView Dec 2018 #30

Gillibrand pamdb Dec 2018 #31

Whether or not she chooses to run, MariePinchon Dec 2018 #32

Gillibrand is doing just fine without ME also ! stonecutter357 Dec 2018 #34

I won't support her Vinnie From Indy Dec 2018 #35

In the primary or in the General? irisblue Dec 2018 #57

Even without Franken she is at the bottom for me Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #38

Who is at the top? oberliner Dec 2018 #67

She likely isn't running but I really like Duckworth Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #76

She's great! oberliner Dec 2018 #80

+1, another reason why her involvement in Franken issue doesn't sit right with me uponit7771 Dec 2018 #136

Your agenda! Nt USALiberal Dec 2018 #39

As someone who really really likes Gillibrand. WeekiWater Dec 2018 #40

Well said and thoughtful oberliner Dec 2018 #68

I'm still trying to understand the Progressive dog Dec 2018 #46

Are you serious about that "gag" photo of a comedian taken in front of several witness by a... brush Dec 2018 #63

The gag photo was not a gag Progressive dog Dec 2018 #69

Look at the photo again. You can see the shadow of his hands hovering over her. brush Dec 2018 #73

Franken was there Progressive dog Dec 2018 #96

Again, he was a comedian. He got the photog to shooting him gagging it up. He did not... brush Dec 2018 #99

It doesn't matter ifm he touched her Progressive dog Dec 2018 #100

We've been thru this many times before on DU. I advised you to look at the... brush Dec 2018 #102

Yes and Franken has still resigned Progressive dog Dec 2018 #105

Still woefully uninformed. See post 60 about the other accusers. brush Dec 2018 #106

I get it, any woman who accuses Franken Progressive dog Dec 2018 #109

Whatever you want to believe, but we'll never know because he was... brush Dec 2018 #131

He ran himself out Progressive dog Dec 2018 #159

Nice try! nt USALiberal Dec 2018 #143

"I don't know what was in my head when I took that picture, and it doesn't matter... oberliner Dec 2018 #70

It was still a gag photo and his hands were not touching her. In the me_too era of course... brush Dec 2018 #75

He felt that it was inappropriate and said so and apologized oberliner Dec 2018 #82

I know. But you need to recognize, better than Gillibrand, that it was a repug hit job. brush Dec 2018 #83

That didn't impact Franken's response oberliner Dec 2018 #84

Like I said, it's the me_too era and him being a gentleman, of course he apologized. brush Dec 2018 #90

But you seem to be suggesting the apology wasn't genuine oberliner Dec 2018 #120

Oh, please. His apology was sincere as to the appearance of the photo... brush Dec 2018 #129

He pretended to grope her in the photo oberliner Dec 2018 #164

We all know the photo was inapproriate. No one is denying that. brush Dec 2018 #165

People love to hate ambitious women. athena Dec 2018 #176

Methinks she doth protest too much. lark Dec 2018 #47

I don't like her, for more reasons than just Franken. MoonRiver Dec 2018 #48

What are the reasons? oberliner Dec 2018 #71

She doesn't seem very smart. She's boring and completely uncharismatic. MoonRiver Dec 2018 #98

Thanks for the response oberliner Dec 2018 #117

wouldn't know she's doing okay by reading posts here... Takket Dec 2018 #50

DU has never represented the hard core base of the party. MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #56

Post removed Post removed Dec 2018 #51

I'd vote for her. If she was the only Democrat running. Then I'd hold my nose and vote. dem4decades Dec 2018 #52

Gillibrand will not be on the ticket aeromanKC Dec 2018 #54

I like your predictions except Joe as IMO his time has passed. brush Dec 2018 #79

She was the most popular statewide elected official in 2018 Renew Deal Dec 2018 #58

That means very little in a nation wide election. MoonRiver Dec 2018 #66

" The New York senator, who's expected to launch a presidential campaign soon" quickesst Dec 2018 #72

Well said. Sums her up. Thank you! democratisphere Dec 2018 #77

You're welcome quickesst Dec 2018 #87

Yep, having the Clintons and Franken as notches on her belt is not good. brush Dec 2018 #81

yep quickesst Dec 2018 #88

Baggage. Plus electorally, do we really need a NYer? ( I am a a NYer) zonkers Dec 2018 #86

Let's see.... quickesst Dec 2018 #95

oh it's STILL AN ISSUE. She'll never get my vote Rene Dec 2018 #78

Gillibrand is hearing from an equal number Eric J in MN Dec 2018 #85

I'd rather see Franken run flamingdem Dec 2018 #92

I would really appreciate her addressing the issue AllyCat Dec 2018 #101

The framing of that question is not fair oberliner Dec 2018 #148

Of course t isn't Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #150

Okay, so what is the reason behind his ouster? AllyCat Dec 2018 #154

Eight women Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #155

I would wager Franken could beat her. tavernier Dec 2018 #104

She lives in a bubble LiberalFighter Dec 2018 #110

...as do some people here. brooklynite Dec 2018 #111

If she is surprised Lotusflower70 Dec 2018 #127

Ahhhhhhh JCinNYC Dec 2018 #128

She still thinks she was right?... lame54 Dec 2018 #132

There are more small dollar donors than a big dollar donor. Stellar Dec 2018 #149

Waiting for that "post removed" person to post. n/t rzemanfl Dec 2018 #151

Liz Warren gets my vote. torius Dec 2018 #152

"Warren joins chorus calling for Franken's resignation" brooklynite Dec 2018 #157

Oh I never saw that. torius Dec 2018 #160

CNN: "Women senators coordinated calls for Al Franken to resign" brooklynite Dec 2018 #168

Actually I consider that worse. Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #169

My takeaway from that link Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #170

At a time when the Republicans in power were bending the country over the sink, LongtimeAZDem Dec 2018 #162

With regard to the Tweeden photo... drbtg1 Dec 2018 #166

Good job, defending bullying and harassment. athena Dec 2018 #175

Wrong on so many levels, but you go believe whatever you want. n/t drbtg1 Dec 2018 #178

She is in New York marlakay Dec 2018 #172

Activists and bloggers do not constitute "the rest of the country" brooklynite Dec 2018 #173

Nope, not her! LW1977 Dec 2018 #177