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GaYellowDawg

(4,447 posts) Sat Dec 15, 2018, 10:03 PM Dec 2018

I'm completely sick of "Beto for president" threads. [View all]

Not enough experience, people. And I know the same thing was said about President Obama, but I'm gonna lay it out: I'm sure Beto is quite intelligent, but he's not in the same ZIP code as President Obama for outright brilliance. I like him as a VP candidate, but I don't want him as a presidential candidate. I don't think he's electable as a presidential candidate.

I'm sick of the same old "new bright shiny white guy" for president stuff. No to Beto. HELL no to Kennedy. Way too young, and I am not a fan of dynasties, either. Outside of his name, I think Kennedy's average as grits. Earnest and a good but not great speaker. Definitely not electable. Give him 20 years of seasoning and maybe. I - and I say this as a white man - I am damn ready for us to put up another tough as nails, brilliant woman for president. I know some of you have issues with Kamala Harris, but watching her run rings around everyone she's gone after in Senate meetings has convinced me she's sharp as hell and can win.

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I'm completely sick of "Beto for president" threads. [View all] GaYellowDawg Dec 2018 OP

Use the auto trash by keyword function Kaleva Dec 2018 #1

+1 I have never opened a thread that had "Seth Myers" or "SNL" in the title. But that doesn't mean I violetpastille Dec 2018 #18

If you trash a thread everyone but you can see it. former9thward Dec 2018 #43

I don't block any threads, because inside all of them there are little nuggets of wealth to extract. TheBlackAdder Dec 2018 #49

I love your attitude. violetpastille Dec 2018 #69

I agree with you both, I never trash threads. dewsgirl Dec 2018 #128

I would have to be here all day every day in order to mine all those nuggets of wealth Kaleva Dec 2018 #96

Yes I understand. violetpastille Dec 2018 #74

... TheBlackAdder Dec 2018 #90

Love that song! smirkymonkey Dec 2018 #93

I like the Auto trash feature Kaleva Dec 2018 #97

+1 crazycatlady Dec 2018 #112

I have Franken and several others on my list Kaleva Dec 2018 #117

My list is "HUGH" SoCalDem Dec 2018 #133

+1 apcalc Dec 2018 #2

I like both Beto and Harris. applegrove Dec 2018 #3

It is my opinion that neither Beto or Harris will win in 20. I don't know Demsrule86 Dec 2018 #106

It's December 2018 and you're already sick of threads for particular candidates? manor321 Dec 2018 #4

Yes, because it's a stupid idea. GaYellowDawg Dec 2018 #5

She should have reacted quicker to her staffer. dem4decades Dec 2018 #6

I want to see one. GaYellowDawg Dec 2018 #7

None of the above. And... it is Klobuchar. question everything Dec 2018 #50

Twenty years really? Guppy Dec 2018 #8

Agree and Disagree. I think they are both bright and qualified. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #15

UC Hastings is not a middling Law school Guppy Dec 2018 #16

UC Hastings is ranked #58 amoung law schools. former9thward Dec 2018 #44

You do know Guppy Dec 2018 #47

Kamala's skills wouldn't be wasted? sheshe2 Dec 2018 #29

Beto is a dynamic campaigner. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #33

Harris will have to explain her stand on Civil forfeiture that she promoted while the CA AG question everything Dec 2018 #54

Nobody cares about that outside the libertarian fever swamp BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #131

Guppy, since you have been mentioning it violetpastille Dec 2018 #21

I am chinese Guppy Dec 2018 #32

Thank you for sharing your story. violetpastille Dec 2018 #71

I'm sorry but what are you saying here about Howard University? oberliner Dec 2018 #22

It's nothing special. metroins Dec 2018 #80

Howard has an excellent law school EffieBlack Dec 2018 #28

She went to Berkeley law school which is a very good school Guppy Dec 2018 #36

No, dear - I get it ... EffieBlack Dec 2018 #37

Okay. Guppy Dec 2018 #40

you know , I almost responded seriously.. JHan Dec 2018 #42

Who is she? NewJeffCT Dec 2018 #46

She was Attorney General for CA. Who the hell cares where her law degree came from? pnwmom Dec 2018 #61

Yes, it should be more about Kamala's record than her education. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #107

Which law school did you go to? Autumn Dec 2018 #151

I'm a white male Texan - and I damn well believe we need an black woman on the harumph Dec 2018 #39

Whether you want to admit it Guppy Dec 2018 #41

He's better than most (today) harumph Dec 2018 #53

And that's why we'd need someone who could surpass him in debating skills. pnwmom Dec 2018 #57

Bingo. harumph Dec 2018 #58

sure you don't need an Ivy League school on your resume NewJeffCT Dec 2018 #48

I believe their influence will wane - and rightly so. harumph Dec 2018 #55

Harris was the Attorney General of the largest state in the country. pnwmom Dec 2018 #59

Do you have something against a black woman? MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #30

You don't get it Guppy Dec 2018 #38

Purely anecdotal baloney. MrsCoffee Dec 2018 #51

Obama was on the Law Review at Harvard Law, not Columbia. pnwmom Dec 2018 #56

You keep making the bogus claim that it's not hard to get elected in California... brush Dec 2018 #67

He is an outgoing House member Polybius Dec 2018 #120

Let the primaries run their course. May best candidate win. Sneederbunk Dec 2018 #9

Brown/Klobucher Horizens Dec 2018 #10

This. BlueWI Dec 2018 #23

But Beto has more experience in the federal government than Kamala...? W_HAMILTON Dec 2018 #11

yes six vs two Guppy Dec 2018 #17

Yes, there is EffieBlack Dec 2018 #76

So lets play reality Guppy Dec 2018 #94

"I'm Chinese and I know my race would have zero chance in a national election." BumRushDaShow Dec 2018 #124

Kamala has won multiple state wide elections. As AG and Senator. Beto has won 0 statewide elections TeamPooka Dec 2018 #123

I would say that a Democrat getting within 2% of winning a statewide race in Texas... W_HAMILTON Dec 2018 #125

Your accusation that Senator Harris doesn't do press and interviews is a falsehood. TeamPooka Dec 2018 #139

Your characterization of my "accusation" is the falsehood. W_HAMILTON Dec 2018 #145

please. history is full of people telling black women they're doing it wrong. Whatever it is. TeamPooka Dec 2018 #147

First, if our candidates have to be as smart as Barack Obama, that's a high bar. mahina Dec 2018 #12

I'm completely sick of complaint threads about candidates not preferred by the OP Devil Child Dec 2018 #13

+1000 nt USALiberal Dec 2018 #20

Agreed! True Dough Dec 2018 #34

Years ago there was GD Presidential crazycatlady Dec 2018 #113

The AA vote saved the Dems and we're going to repay them by running a young white guy who lost to NightWatcher Dec 2018 #136

I'm sorry, I must have missed the part where O'Rourke was selected as our nominee Devil Child Dec 2018 #140

We're going to run whoever wins the primary, regardless of color or sex. Chemisse Dec 2018 #144

Another for Team Harris here NightWatcher Dec 2018 #14

That's a good point. Glamrock Dec 2018 #126

Then don't read them. Easy. Nt USALiberal Dec 2018 #19

"I'm sick of the same old "new bright shiny white guy" for president stuff." 912gdm Dec 2018 #24

Meh... Lithos Dec 2018 #25

If it makes you sick then don't read them still_one Dec 2018 #26

i would like to see a chillfactor Dec 2018 #27

He should've mopped the floor with Cruz in the Texas debates - harumph Dec 2018 #31

Debates have very little effect Guppy Dec 2018 #45

Debates have the effect of narrowing the field during the primary harumph Dec 2018 #66

yup, Debates took out Rick Perry, Rubio, and Paul Ryan(in vp debate) JI7 Dec 2018 #75

Texas is still red as hell. Thats absurd. phleshdef Dec 2018 #70

Do you live in Texas? I do - and the cities are mostly blue. harumph Dec 2018 #81

My sister and best friend do. Trump won Texas big in 2016. phleshdef Dec 2018 #85

Stacey Abrams came even closer than Beto to winning her statewide race EffieBlack Dec 2018 #86

No one is stopping you from making those threads. phleshdef Dec 2018 #89

I'm hoping stacey abrams jumps in. great pol and great person Kurt V. Dec 2018 #103

Cruz's number 1 talent is his debating skills Polybius Dec 2018 #121

I have the luxury of time to absorb the capabilities of the prospective candidates Jarqui Dec 2018 #35

You can always not read them. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2018 #52

Beto is my choice so far Jake Stern Dec 2018 #60

her stance on that case was immoral questionseverything Dec 2018 #156

Glad we have a deep bench. zentrum Dec 2018 #62

Well, just hang on. If others agree with you, Beto threads will gradually disappear . . . Journeyman Dec 2018 #63

Kinda early to be eating our own....maybe? Chakaconcarne Dec 2018 #64

Eating our own is a democratic tradition. harumph Dec 2018 #68

If you are going strictly by resume it is Cory Boiker DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #65

Let's Look a Little Further: DoctorJoJo Dec 2018 #72

Well you are gonna be in for a rough year or so. phleshdef Dec 2018 #73

If you don't like him as a presidential candidate camelfan Dec 2018 #77

these discussions are irrelevant as long as dems keep ignoring talk radio certainot Dec 2018 #78

That's a good point. harumph Dec 2018 #84

I'm sick of all the 2020 threads Trumpocalypse Dec 2018 #79

I like Beto well enough. But I plan on supporting Tom Steyer. (eom) StevieM Dec 2018 #82

In 2008 and 2016 proponents of our candidates became exceedingly hostile toward other candidates and Prof.Higgins Dec 2018 #83

Weren't we told it had to be Oprah? left-of-center2012 Dec 2018 #87

Agree TheFarseer Dec 2018 #88

They can all fight it out in the debates, and the winner, as declared by me, will have my vote. earthshine Dec 2018 #91

Kamala Harris is not in Beto's league Awsi Dooger Dec 2018 #92

"Beto has already been through a mini-presidential race and handled it exceptionally well" oberliner Dec 2018 #95

Of course, she's not ... EffieBlack Dec 2018 #100

I'm keeping an open mind, but my initial gut feeling is that nominating Kamala Harris could Midwestern Democrat Dec 2018 #118

IMHO you are a bit too bearish on her chances. DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2018 #142

Same here, and not for the same reason you are. GoCubsGo Dec 2018 #98

same here. demmiblue Dec 2018 #102

I don't care if we end up with the child of a Martian who raised a family at Area 51. Vinca Dec 2018 #99

I'm not sick of the "Beto for president" threads ... EffieBlack Dec 2018 #101

Can you link to one of those threads? Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #129

There have been quite few people who have said violetpastille Dec 2018 #132

Again, can you link to one thread where people said that? Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #137

Didn't you say that Effieblack was calling us racists? violetpastille Dec 2018 #138

No I didn't say that but mischaracterizing is what some people do Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #153

Brad violetpastille Dec 2018 #154

Asking people to defend what they write is not "going after them" Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #158

Actually I have seen people say that our candidate would be more likely to win if it's a white male. Chemisse Dec 2018 #148

I would agree with most of that Bradshaw3 Dec 2018 #152

I think our pool for 2016 was limited because of Clinton's perceived inevitability. Chemisse Dec 2018 #155

i agree.. i think its unfair to him all this prez talk. I cant see him go toe to toe with.. samnsara Dec 2018 #104

Whether Beto is the right choice for president or not, watoos Dec 2018 #105

A lot of Texans voted for him , that says something. Lets hear him out. pwb Dec 2018 #108

Are you suggesting the Democratic presidential primary should be democratic?! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #109

That would be nice. pwb Dec 2018 #110

Absolutely, people should decide who our candidate will be, not organizations, corporations, PACs InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2018 #114

It's way too early to settle on a nominee. Like putting up Xmas decorations in August. n/t elocs Dec 2018 #111

Let them run, and let them fight. dalton99a Dec 2018 #115

People are going to speculate and have preferences Bettie Dec 2018 #116

I hear ya! I try to ignore them. They're all motivated by extreme disappointment... NurseJackie Dec 2018 #119

Click the X. Iggo Dec 2018 #122

If you're already tired of them, you're REALLY gonna be miserable for the next year. bearsfootball516 Dec 2018 #127

Womp womp BannonsLiver Dec 2018 #130

Beto 2020. ;) Adrahil Dec 2018 #134

Harris puts on a good show. roody Dec 2018 #135

My 2 bits: northoftheborder Dec 2018 #141

Pretty sick of reading threads that MrGrieves Dec 2018 #143

Oh, the irony ... EffieBlack Dec 2018 #146

I like Beto but it is early Gothmog Dec 2018 #149

Wait until the debates before making up your mind... cynatnite Dec 2018 #150

Oh, it's straight ticket Democratic candidates for me. GaYellowDawg Dec 2018 #157