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JHan

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164. So Senator Gillibrand cowed Schumer and others?

Mon Oct 15, 2018, 11:51 AM

Oct 2018

really? that's what we're going with?

I think it's more likely a political calculation was made. We can dislike their choice all we want, but the notion that Gillibrand forced other Senators who respected Franken, to turn against him is laughable. These are seasoned politicians.

And spare me the "damaged goods" nonsense please.

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Kirsten Gillibrand for president [View all] oberliner Oct 2018 OP

Yea, ok, maybe make Al Franken her Veep. Geez. Funtatlaguy Oct 2018 #1

+1 blue cat Oct 2018 #52

Somehow I don't see that happening oberliner Oct 2018 #56

I'd rather see Al Fraken as president trueblue2007 Oct 2018 #257

We will see Sherman A1 Oct 2018 #2

She drove Al Franken out of the Senate The Blue Flower Oct 2018 #3

I'll have to read up on Jay Inslee oberliner Oct 2018 #54

She and 38 other Senators Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #60

Just the fact that you use the word "agreed" shows that you know he was pressured. Demit Oct 2018 #77

Yes there was a lot of behind the scenes pressure Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #89

I happen to know you're correct DFW Oct 2018 #101

Good post. Gillibrand fell for the repug scam and shoved Al under the bus. brush Oct 2018 #109

I think she saw it as a feather in her cap. She probably didn't expect it to backfire on her. Demit Oct 2018 #139

She and 38 other Senators Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #146

It's not sticking to them. You'll be compelled to bring that up repeatedly and it won't make a dent Demit Oct 2018 #160

Perception vs. Reality Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #165

The reality is that this was Gillibrand's baby. Demit Oct 2018 #174

Actually what you posted disputes Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #186

I don't think so. Demit Oct 2018 #212

But your link doesn't state that Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #218

Did you try actually reading it? LakeSuperiorView Oct 2018 #270

And as I stated before Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #292

All you have to this point is your opinion... LakeSuperiorView Oct 2018 #314

No she wasn't Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #315

Thank you for proving my point. She was very vocal on Dec. 6th. LakeSuperiorView Oct 2018 #324

No You said Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #329

Where's your proof that he agreed to resign on the 5th? LakeSuperiorView Oct 2018 #332

Because that was the point of the press conference Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #334

So you have no proof that he agreed to resign on the 5th. LakeSuperiorView Oct 2018 #335

What do you think the purpose of the press conference was? Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #340

And what is the date of the Tweet? Dec 6th. LakeSuperiorView Oct 2018 #341

The press conference was already scheduled on the 6th Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #342

Like it or not, Gillibrand was seen as leading the group. LakeSuperiorView Oct 2018 #343

Seen as Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #344

Most i would not want to be pres... lame54 Oct 2018 #353

That is fair. Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #354

Warren, Sanders and Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #142

16 women Senators coordinated together. tammywammy Oct 2018 #285

Good post, thank you. mountain grammy Oct 2018 #147

Thank you for the post. I felt like this was a total right wing set-up to get rid of Franken. Bluepinky Oct 2018 #168

Thank you DFW. 100%. Lots of us called and wrote to Mazie mahina Oct 2018 #223

I only met Mazie once DFW Oct 2018 #242

This is what I always assumed to have happened behind the scenes. I have a friend who knew AL hlthe2b Oct 2018 #237

I don't know him as well as your friend does, but our mutual friend knows him better DFW Oct 2018 #244

Thank you for this post. Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #241

Agreed. No Republican is palatable enough to warrant sitting out a presidential race DFW Oct 2018 #247

Gaslight much? Please stop spreading lies. LakeSuperiorView Oct 2018 #226

And 38 others senators called for it too Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #229

Changing the goalposts now? LakeSuperiorView Oct 2018 #240

Not changing anything Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #246

What part of a direct quote eludes you? LakeSuperiorView Oct 2018 #249

Doesn't prove anything. Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #252

It proves that your statement was a lie. LakeSuperiorView Oct 2018 #256

No it doesn't. Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #260

You can keep typing that until you're blue in the face but it won't matter BannonsLiver Oct 2018 #250

Truth should matter Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #253

I'll support her if she prevails Jarqui Oct 2018 #110

I agree. nt LAS14 Oct 2018 #114

Ron Wyden ?? trueblue2007 Oct 2018 #258

Would we lose Minnesota or the principle of due process? delisen Oct 2018 #4

I don't think so oberliner Oct 2018 #51

I bet she wouldn't. MN Dems hate her guts for what she did to Franken. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #152

Is there a poll you are basing that on? oberliner Oct 2018 #195

I know a lot of Democrats. You can't even mention her name among them The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #207

Not in the primary. LakeSuperiorView Oct 2018 #245

Her part MyOwnPeace Oct 2018 #5

What about the rest of her senate career? oberliner Oct 2018 #49

I acknowledge the impressive MyOwnPeace Oct 2018 #126

I don't think that is a fair comparison oberliner Oct 2018 #197

In politics it often takes only one stupid move to overshadow a career. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #213

No, thanks. Kamala Harris , please. octoberlib Oct 2018 #6

I second that. Vinca Oct 2018 #7

Kamala Harris yes. She's shown the critical judgement we need. hlthe2b Oct 2018 #11

Oh, I love Kamala lovemydogs Oct 2018 #143

Gillibrand or Booker are much better choices. Amishman Oct 2018 #38

Gillibrand won't win , period. Not impressed with octoberlib Oct 2018 #69

She won't get a lot of Dem votes even. She handled the Franken issue very very poorly hlthe2b Oct 2018 #148

HRC ran a positive upbeat campaign. And in 2008 she had some pretty strong oratory. StevieM Oct 2018 #308

How about a Harris-Gillibrand ticket? oberliner Oct 2018 #47

Please Make the Case erpowers Oct 2018 #107

YES!YES!YES! ZZenith Oct 2018 #303

no steventh Oct 2018 #8

Why not? oberliner Oct 2018 #46

baggage is why not steventh Oct 2018 #125

People said similar things about HRC oberliner Oct 2018 #200

a good dem Kurt V. Oct 2018 #9

Agreed oberliner Oct 2018 #45

You know full well just divisive this is, but you decided to go ahead anyway. OnDoutside Oct 2018 #10

Indeed. hlthe2b Oct 2018 #12

Oh, come on. It's only divisive if we say EffieBlack Oct 2018 #39

What could possibly be divisive about praising a prominent Democratic senator? oberliner Oct 2018 #43

There you go again. OnDoutside Oct 2018 #61

Can you clarify what you mean by that? oberliner Oct 2018 #201

Here's my discussion contribution. She turns me off since what she pulled on Al. sprinkleeninow Oct 2018 #284

If you can't figure out why she's divisive I'll spell it out... brush Oct 2018 #111

When do two sides of an idea rate "divisive???" This is nuts. DU is a discussion website. nt LAS14 Oct 2018 #117

Huh? Do I have to remind you of the 2016 campaign? brush Oct 2018 #124

Do you mean the Hillary Sanders split? So.... LAS14 Oct 2018 #159

Yeah, until after Nov. 6th. Not rocket science. brush Oct 2018 #162

That's not really a fair characterization, in my view oberliner Oct 2018 #206

What??? This is supposed to be a DISCUSSION forum. (Not yelling, just.... LAS14 Oct 2018 #116

And in the 3 hours since I posted, how has the thread gone ? OnDoutside Oct 2018 #119

I'm not sure of your point. If you think it's... LAS14 Oct 2018 #122

No. The majority here are (as I expected), negative towards Gillibrand because of what she did to OnDoutside Oct 2018 #133

So we shouldn't post ideas if they are minority ideas??? LAS14 Oct 2018 #150

As I said in my earlier post, the OP knew what they were OnDoutside Oct 2018 #225

She is likely to be the nominee Renew Deal Oct 2018 #13

Agreed oberliner Oct 2018 #41

She does have a good record. Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #243

NO way...I'd bet money other prominent Senators (Harris, Booker, Klobuchar, Warren etc) get support hlthe2b Oct 2018 #180

I don't think any one of them are a good bet at this point Renew Deal Oct 2018 #215

Not likely. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #211

What makes her likely? BlueStater Oct 2018 #360

Please stop. Demsrule86 Oct 2018 #14

She is a great Democratic senator and would make a great presidential candidate oberliner Oct 2018 #40

Because DU is a place for DISCUSSION. (Underlining, not yelling.) nt LAS14 Oct 2018 #118

Exactly. She is my last choice Horse with no Name Oct 2018 #209

No Chance Mojo2 Oct 2018 #15

Do you have anyone in particular you are hoping will run? oberliner Oct 2018 #35

So would none of the 38 other Senators get your vote? Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #63

NO!!! lunamagica Oct 2018 #16

Why not? oberliner Oct 2018 #34

For backstabbing Franken and the Clintons lunamagica Oct 2018 #232

NO! Tavarious Jackson Oct 2018 #17

Kamala Harris would also be a great choice oberliner Oct 2018 #33

How about Kamala Harris? people Oct 2018 #153

...of the "Railroad Our Own" club. TheCowsCameHome Oct 2018 #18

She has a lot going for her as a potentially strong Democratic candidate for president oberliner Oct 2018 #32

You told us anyone who though Roy Moore would lose Alabama was delusional. LanternWaste Oct 2018 #19

Sure am glad I got that prediction wrong oberliner Oct 2018 #31

That would be a no for me. Little Star Oct 2018 #20

Why not? oberliner Oct 2018 #27

SSDD. FSogol Oct 2018 #21

What's the problem? oberliner Oct 2018 #26

LOL betsuni Oct 2018 #22

What's so funny? oberliner Oct 2018 #25

No thanks! Nt USALiberal Oct 2018 #23

Why not? oberliner Oct 2018 #24

No, Boo EffieBlack Oct 2018 #28

Zero chance. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2018 #29

No. Did i say no yet? Can i say no? I've forgotten my manners dem4decades Oct 2018 #30

This LACK OF CIVILITY - horrid, simply HORRID!! hatrack Oct 2018 #36

I could support her. nt LexVegas Oct 2018 #37

No. And she doesn't want to run now. djg21 Oct 2018 #42

3 weeks before midterms you post a knowingly divisive thread blm Oct 2018 #44

Also a diversion from the great Sen. Warren news. Kingofalldems Oct 2018 #55

Please check out my post on the great Sen. Warren news oberliner Oct 2018 #282

How is this divisive? Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #64

Method of Operation blm Oct 2018 #70

Which means? Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #74

Ahhhh...try three weeks before the critical mid-terms? That's why it's divisive. brush Oct 2018 #113

Again there are similar posts Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #123

Simple. There's plenty of time for this after Nov. 6. Focus on GOTV. brush Oct 2018 #128

So you would call similar posts Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #137

I clearly said "I don't care what candidate you favor". brush Oct 2018 #141

Nice diversion Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #145

Oh please. Your question wasn't necessary since I clearly stated... brush Oct 2018 #149

So yes or no Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #151

You sound surprised. tavernier Oct 2018 #73

Heh blm Oct 2018 #75

There is nothing divisive and lots of DUers have posted threads about potential nominees oberliner Oct 2018 #278

SSDD Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2018 #48

No thanks. I have stated why often enough. rzemanfl Oct 2018 #50

I would rather have Warren/Harris. Autumn Oct 2018 #53

She's OK, but has some weak spots. I'm uncommitted to any candidate for the Democratic primary race aikoaiko Oct 2018 #57

Unfortunately Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #58

We need a person that will stand with ALL OTHER Democrats. democratisphere Oct 2018 #59

Well, she stood with the entire Democratic Senate caucus... brooklynite Oct 2018 #67

Yes. That ONE and ALL OTHERS. democratisphere Oct 2018 #86

So in the context of the OP, all Senate Dems are unqualified as Presidential candidates... brooklynite Oct 2018 #93

Joe who?! democratisphere Oct 2018 #99

Perhaps it is time for a fresh horse. democratisphere Oct 2018 #104

Waiting for your knowing someones whole staff post. Nt USALiberal Oct 2018 #105

She wouldn't be my choice in a primary Bettie Oct 2018 #62

Nope. PubliusEnigma Oct 2018 #65

Joe Biden 2020 ! stonecutter357 Oct 2018 #66

So far my choice, tavernier Oct 2018 #76

From what I've seen of her I think she'd be eaten alive in the Democratic primary debates. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2018 #68

Nope..Forget her...she threw Al Franken under the bus..nt helpisontheway Oct 2018 #71

Answer: no. Reason: Much like Sec. Clinton, she is divisive and thus damaged goods drbtg1 Oct 2018 #72

Can you give examples of this divisiveness ... JHan Oct 2018 #78

This would be like giving a description of the ocean... drbtg1 Oct 2018 #84

I didn't agree with her completely re Clinton but she is not the only liberal.. JHan Oct 2018 #90

Her being the ringleader though highlights her poor judgment in so quickly falling... brush Oct 2018 #121

If she was a ringleader, her colleagues were happy to be led. JHan Oct 2018 #129

She forced it though. She damaged her own chances. brush Oct 2018 #132

still I can't separate her from her colleagues over this, JHan Oct 2018 #140

True enough, but she placed herself out front. There are consequences for poor judgment. brush Oct 2018 #144

Well I think that's unfair to her. This is what I think happened... JHan Oct 2018 #155

Yeah, but she jumped on the bandwagon way before Shumer or any of the others. brush Oct 2018 #158

yes ..that's something she can't erase. JHan Oct 2018 #166

Consensual is the keyword. They both were willing (she even flashed her thong at him). brush Oct 2018 #196

Monica Lewinsky wrote an interesting piece for Vanity Fair last year. lapucelle Oct 2018 #351

that's true.. "damaged goods" is particularly sexist. JHan Oct 2018 #357

No that's not how things work. Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #192

You nailed it nt Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #189

"Sexual harassment awareness"? Funny, because I don't remember any Gillibrand amendment,... drbtg1 Oct 2018 #154

Look, my only point to you is you cannot single her out for a collective choice that was made.. JHan Oct 2018 #156

Yes, actually, I can single her out for being the ringleader. drbtg1 Oct 2018 #163

So Senator Gillibrand cowed Schumer and others? JHan Oct 2018 #164

LMFAO!!!!! drbtg1 Oct 2018 #175

It's a message board, people respond to posts whenever and wherever. JHan Oct 2018 #181

Schumer was the ringleader Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #194

The women senators coordinated their response. tammywammy Oct 2018 #345

"Once again, she's damaged goods"... lapucelle Oct 2018 #352

Oh, hell, no! drbtg1 Oct 2018 #358

Adding an exclamation point at the end of a superficial assertion lapucelle Oct 2018 #359

What proof do you have that Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #176

Provide your own links. I don't work for you. Everyone knows she lead the charge so... brush Oct 2018 #188

No. You are making an accusation Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #199

Get lost. brush Oct 2018 #204

So you can't support Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #321

+1 OnDoutside Oct 2018 #228

She and 38 other Senators Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #234

The others were marking her, she was the first to stick the knife in. Quite Shakespearean in fact. OnDoutside Oct 2018 #295

She doesn't have that much power or influence Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #298

She doesn't have that much power or influence now. OnDoutside Oct 2018 #299

And she didn't then either. Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #301

Your efforts to rewrite history doesn't wash, she led the demand for his resignation. And that was OnDoutside Oct 2018 #305

No that is not what happened Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #309

No, they are 2020 rivals, who marked her move. OnDoutside Oct 2018 #310

Any proof of that Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #311

The senators coordinated together. tammywammy Oct 2018 #287

But it is easier to just blame one Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #312

Your comment is a joke Renew Deal Oct 2018 #361

Can't get behind her. lark Oct 2018 #79

Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #157

True, I pity the good Dems running against her. lark Oct 2018 #227

her record is solid, I don't really have issues with her. JHan Oct 2018 #80

Can't get past Al Franken. Sorry, she's not my candidate. n/t Miles Archer Oct 2018 #81

So you rather have another 4 years of Trump? Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #92

You're asking that because she is our one and only option? Miles Archer Oct 2018 #100

So then, if it is Trump vs. Gillibrand in the general Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #108

Oh, stop. Was that supposed to be some kind of gotcha? Squinch Oct 2018 #130

Just asking a question Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #135

And implying that if someone doesn't like a candidate they must be trumpers. Squinch Oct 2018 #136

Not implying anything Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #138

She Turned on the Clintons, Who Did Much to Help Her, as well as Turned on Franken dlk Oct 2018 #82

I'd only vote for her if she somehow got the nomination. BlueTsunami2018 Oct 2018 #83

I would vote against her in the primary first. dhol82 Oct 2018 #202

She lead the charge that cost us a wonderful and irreplaceable voice. mahina Oct 2018 #85

Due process is a talking point Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #96

no ebbie15644 Oct 2018 #87

Nope workinclasszero Oct 2018 #88

NOOOOOOOOOO! nt elfin Oct 2018 #91

Solid progressive, smart, strong fighter. WeekiWater Oct 2018 #94

My thoughts exactly oberliner Oct 2018 #191

11/06/2018. Nothing else exists. n/t Greybnk48 Oct 2018 #95

Fair enough oberliner Oct 2018 #190

The best Dem nominee for president in 2020 MontanaMama Oct 2018 #97

Good points oberliner Oct 2018 #187

Did anyone else hear goats galloping on the bridge? Drahthaardogs Oct 2018 #98

On the record I had as a child like 66 years ago, they went clip-clop. n/t rzemanfl Oct 2018 #106

Can you clarify what you mean by that? oberliner Oct 2018 #185

No. I can't clarify. Drahthaardogs Oct 2018 #273

Kirsten gillibrand.... quickesst Oct 2018 #102

Who would you like to see as our nominee? oberliner Oct 2018 #184

As of right now, and if Hillary does not run.... quickesst Oct 2018 #336

He is definitely a popular choice oberliner Oct 2018 #339

He certainly hits all the attributes.... quickesst Oct 2018 #350

Nope SHRED Oct 2018 #103

In what way do you find her to be divisive? oberliner Oct 2018 #183

Just look at this thread SHRED Oct 2018 #216

No. n/t ms liberty Oct 2018 #112

Why not? oberliner Oct 2018 #182

I'll take "Who's that under the bridge?" for $100, Alex. Squinch Oct 2018 #115

Can you clarify what you mean by that comment? oberliner Oct 2018 #179

I don't think you need any clarification. But good try! Squinch Oct 2018 #224

Here's a different take on the Gillibrand/Franken thing. LAS14 Oct 2018 #120

I do agree that support for Kavanaugh was higher than expected oberliner Oct 2018 #178

But I continue to be shocked at the drift right on the part of indpendents. LAS14 Oct 2018 #210

No, and I'm sure she won't make it past the primary. MoonRiver Oct 2018 #127

Who do you think it will be? oberliner Oct 2018 #173

Not sure yet. There will be so many choices. MoonRiver Oct 2018 #203

Who else do you not want? oberliner Oct 2018 #208

I don't want Biden. MoonRiver Oct 2018 #214

Biden seems to be the most popular choice at this point oberliner Oct 2018 #323

I don't want people to cite Michael Harriot as a source one day LanternWaste Oct 2018 #235

I very much value your opinion oberliner Oct 2018 #322

im not feeling this.... samnsara Oct 2018 #131

Why not? oberliner Oct 2018 #172

You've made your point snowybirdie Oct 2018 #134

I don't understand your question oberliner Oct 2018 #171

It's called the first amendment. Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #198

The First Amendment applies only to the suppression of speech by the government. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #230

So it is OK with you that Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #233

I don't see anybody's speech being "suppressed" here. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #236

That is true for the most part. Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #248

Just making a point about a common mistake about the First Amendment. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #254

Well you made your point Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #262

That's how the law works. tazkcmo Oct 2018 #300

And if the rules of the site are not violated Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #302

Sure. Maybe it's a bit rude, but it doesn't suppress their speech The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #328

So do you support telling people to shut up Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #330

No, it's rude. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2018 #331

Thanks Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #333

I'll vote for whoever gets the nomination, but we better be smarter than this. -nt CrispyQ Oct 2018 #161

Why do you not think it would be smart to nominate her? oberliner Oct 2018 #170

I would love to see a woman or minority at the top of the ticket, CrispyQ Oct 2018 #219

No. IluvPitties Oct 2018 #167

Why not? oberliner Oct 2018 #169

Going after Bill and Hillary, Al Franken... IluvPitties Oct 2018 #177

I'm with you on Klobuchar oberliner Oct 2018 #193

Fans of Al Franken have long memories and will not forgive or forget Gothmog Oct 2018 #205

I guess the RW think tanks are scrambling with this great Sen. Elizabeth Warren news. Kingofalldems Oct 2018 #217

Of course I would support her in the GE. Turin_C3PO Oct 2018 #220

Wow! Check out this breaking news: Kingofalldems Oct 2018 #221

No way in hell she was responsible for driving our best doc03 Oct 2018 #222

How was Franken the best Senator? Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #231

It ain't working. Kingofalldems Oct 2018 #239

What ain't working? Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #251

If she secures the nomination she has my unconditional support Devil Child Oct 2018 #238

NO! happy feet Oct 2018 #255

She and 38 other Senators Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #263

Posts like this are intended to be divisive Mr. Ected Oct 2018 #259

Are similar posts Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #264

Yes, but you're missing the point Mr. Ected Oct 2018 #268

Maybe the poster's goal is to support a particular Senator Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #269

Or maybe the poster wants to poke a hot stick in our eye Mr. Ected Oct 2018 #271

Or maybe the poster likes Kirsten Gillibrand and thinks she is a great progressive Democrat? oberliner Oct 2018 #274

How are they uplifting? Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #291

How do you know what the poster's intentions are? Veiled or not? nt LAS14 Oct 2018 #286

How.do you know what they are? Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #294

Sorry. I meant to reply to Mr. Ected, post 268. LAS14 Oct 2018 #304

No, they aren't oberliner Oct 2018 #275

Not a chance cp Oct 2018 #261

So Sanders and Warren were also collaborating? Trumpocalypse Oct 2018 #265

This LW1977 Oct 2018 #267

Um.. no. LW1977 Oct 2018 #266

No thank you. tazkcmo Oct 2018 #272

Who are your top five? oberliner Oct 2018 #281

No thank you. YOHABLO Oct 2018 #276

We can do better than this. jalan48 Oct 2018 #277

NOOOOOO!!! aeromanKC Oct 2018 #279

What does FTB stand for? oberliner Oct 2018 #280

Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #283

Kristen pamdb Oct 2018 #288

No way. We don't need another northeastern liberal. Need someone from the middle the country. AND LBM20 Oct 2018 #289

HELL NO!!!!!!! sdfernando Oct 2018 #290

Absolutely not RhodeIslandOne Oct 2018 #293

This message was self-deleted by its author RhodeIslandOne Oct 2018 #296

How in the world can you "see" behind what the poster put in the post? LAS14 Oct 2018 #306

Post removed Post removed Oct 2018 #307

This message was self-deleted by its author oberliner Oct 2018 #319

Bazinga! George II Oct 2018 #320

Proud to advocate for Gillibrand, a great progressive Democratic senator oberliner Oct 2018 #318

Fuck that. Still In Wisconsin Oct 2018 #297

Why do you say that? oberliner Oct 2018 #317

fuck putin! stonecutter357 Oct 2018 #313

What does Putin have to do with Gillibrand? oberliner Oct 2018 #316

i think you get the picture . stonecutter357 Oct 2018 #337

I don't - can you explain why you mentioned Putin? oberliner Oct 2018 #338

LOL, 15 recs should be enough proof it is a bad idea! nt USALiberal Oct 2018 #325

I knew this was going to get interesting when I first saw it this morning underpants Oct 2018 #326

Could we get through 2018 first? nt dflprincess Oct 2018 #327

Fair enough oberliner Oct 2018 #346

Haven't seen her in Minnesota dflprincess Oct 2018 #347

She was recently in Pennsylvania oberliner Oct 2018 #348

I don't believe there have been any big names this year. dflprincess Oct 2018 #349

I will support her if she's our nominee. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2018 #355

Which we must all do. ooky Oct 2018 #356