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In reply to the discussion: Kirsten Gillibrand for president [View all]quickesst
(6,287 posts)102. Kirsten gillibrand....
No thanks. I'd rather not have an experienced, professional opportunist as the 2020 Democratic nominee. It was easy for me to form my opinion by simply stepping out of the Al Franken box.
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Just the fact that you use the word "agreed" shows that you know he was pressured.
Demit
Oct 2018
#77
I think she saw it as a feather in her cap. She probably didn't expect it to backfire on her.
Demit
Oct 2018
#139
It's not sticking to them. You'll be compelled to bring that up repeatedly and it won't make a dent
Demit
Oct 2018
#160
Thank you for the post. I felt like this was a total right wing set-up to get rid of Franken.
Bluepinky
Oct 2018
#168
This is what I always assumed to have happened behind the scenes. I have a friend who knew AL
hlthe2b
Oct 2018
#237
I don't know him as well as your friend does, but our mutual friend knows him better
DFW
Oct 2018
#244
Agreed. No Republican is palatable enough to warrant sitting out a presidential race
DFW
Oct 2018
#247
You can keep typing that until you're blue in the face but it won't matter
BannonsLiver
Oct 2018
#250
I bet she wouldn't. MN Dems hate her guts for what she did to Franken.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Oct 2018
#152
I know a lot of Democrats. You can't even mention her name among them
The Velveteen Ocelot
Oct 2018
#207
In politics it often takes only one stupid move to overshadow a career.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Oct 2018
#213
She won't get a lot of Dem votes even. She handled the Franken issue very very poorly
hlthe2b
Oct 2018
#148
HRC ran a positive upbeat campaign. And in 2008 she had some pretty strong oratory.
StevieM
Oct 2018
#308
You know full well just divisive this is, but you decided to go ahead anyway.
OnDoutside
Oct 2018
#10
What could possibly be divisive about praising a prominent Democratic senator?
oberliner
Oct 2018
#43
Here's my discussion contribution. She turns me off since what she pulled on Al.
sprinkleeninow
Oct 2018
#284
When do two sides of an idea rate "divisive???" This is nuts. DU is a discussion website. nt
LAS14
Oct 2018
#117
No. The majority here are (as I expected), negative towards Gillibrand because of what she did to
OnDoutside
Oct 2018
#133
NO way...I'd bet money other prominent Senators (Harris, Booker, Klobuchar, Warren etc) get support
hlthe2b
Oct 2018
#180
She is a great Democratic senator and would make a great presidential candidate
oberliner
Oct 2018
#40
She has a lot going for her as a potentially strong Democratic candidate for president
oberliner
Oct 2018
#32
You told us anyone who though Roy Moore would lose Alabama was delusional.
LanternWaste
Oct 2018
#19
Ahhhh...try three weeks before the critical mid-terms? That's why it's divisive.
brush
Oct 2018
#113
There is nothing divisive and lots of DUers have posted threads about potential nominees
oberliner
Oct 2018
#278
She's OK, but has some weak spots. I'm uncommitted to any candidate for the Democratic primary race
aikoaiko
Oct 2018
#57
So in the context of the OP, all Senate Dems are unqualified as Presidential candidates...
brooklynite
Oct 2018
#93
From what I've seen of her I think she'd be eaten alive in the Democratic primary debates.
Gidney N Cloyd
Oct 2018
#68
Answer: no. Reason: Much like Sec. Clinton, she is divisive and thus damaged goods
drbtg1
Oct 2018
#72
Her being the ringleader though highlights her poor judgment in so quickly falling...
brush
Oct 2018
#121
True enough, but she placed herself out front. There are consequences for poor judgment.
brush
Oct 2018
#144
Consensual is the keyword. They both were willing (she even flashed her thong at him).
brush
Oct 2018
#196
"Sexual harassment awareness"? Funny, because I don't remember any Gillibrand amendment,...
drbtg1
Oct 2018
#154
Look, my only point to you is you cannot single her out for a collective choice that was made..
JHan
Oct 2018
#156
Provide your own links. I don't work for you. Everyone knows she lead the charge so...
brush
Oct 2018
#188
The others were marking her, she was the first to stick the knife in. Quite Shakespearean in fact.
OnDoutside
Oct 2018
#295
Your efforts to rewrite history doesn't wash, she led the demand for his resignation. And that was
OnDoutside
Oct 2018
#305
The First Amendment applies only to the suppression of speech by the government.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Oct 2018
#230
Just making a point about a common mistake about the First Amendment.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Oct 2018
#254
Sure. Maybe it's a bit rude, but it doesn't suppress their speech
The Velveteen Ocelot
Oct 2018
#328
I'll vote for whoever gets the nomination, but we better be smarter than this. -nt
CrispyQ
Oct 2018
#161
I guess the RW think tanks are scrambling with this great Sen. Elizabeth Warren news.
Kingofalldems
Oct 2018
#217
Or maybe the poster likes Kirsten Gillibrand and thinks she is a great progressive Democrat?
oberliner
Oct 2018
#274