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In reply to the discussion: NY State Senator Wants to Make Calling 911 on Black Folks in White Spaces a Hate Crime [View all]sheshe2
(84,145 posts)34. Why
t'll never pass in NY...and would never stand up in SCOTUS.. if for some reason it did pass in NY, I would hope Cuomo would be smart enough to veto it..
Why would it go to SCOTUS? Why should Cuomo veto it?
Who get's to decide what calls are "hate crimes"...
Umm, well that would be the courts.
I wish people weren't racist...but to try to determine after the fact, what was in a callers mind...I wish people weren't racist...but to try to determine after the fact, what was in a callers mind...fear or hate....during a 9-1-1 call...are we going to put that on 9-1-1 dispatchers, political appointees, a DA that may have a bias...the cost alone to litigate this poor idea would bust our State budget if every call were put to this test.
Isn't this what the courts do every dayum day in many cases? They determine intent after the fact! I cannot believe that you think fear motivated this recent flurry of 911 calls. It was white privilege and racism pure and simple. So, you say the cost is to high and we should just let it go.
It won't be a 1 way street..how many whites will yell hate crime if an AA makes the 9-1-1 and it's a dud?
Sorry, I have to laugh here. To funny. AA making the 911 calls...
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NY State Senator Wants to Make Calling 911 on Black Folks in White Spaces a Hate Crime [View all]
sheshe2
Aug 2018
OP
I would think the way to handle it is if it turns out to be a "living while black or brown or...
brush
Aug 2018
#80
If a person dies at the hands of the police dispatched as the result of a 911 call, is the root of
hughee99
Aug 2018
#52
There's always the possibility that these white people call the police on innocent black
Aristus
Aug 2018
#63
Yes, but if you're going to try to fix A problem, wouldn't that be THE problem to fix? n/t
hughee99
Aug 2018
#120
Any number of people already have died, like a smallish 12 y.o. boy playing in a park at dusk
Hekate
Aug 2018
#22
You haven't really read my post because you aren't responding to what it contains.
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2018
#102
I'm just saying you may be unclear how the concept of a hate crime came to be a legal thing
Hekate
Aug 2018
#45
I know the problem, which is why I wonder who'd buy into the bigot's term "white space" & use it.
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2018
#26
So who would play the callers' game & use their framing & refer to them as "white spaces"?
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2018
#25
I think the two guys at their pool don't call it "white spaces" but call it "our pool".
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2018
#31
I know it's the white callers. Thus it is strange to see someone (who?) accepting that terminology
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2018
#37
And I am just as sure that the white people are thinking: "We belong here, and you don't. Go away."
Hekate
Aug 2018
#92
No. I'm very serious and mean what I write. Read it for comprehension. . . . nt
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2018
#105
MadDas quite perceptive. Calling it something like "white-claimed space" is obvious & not co-opted.
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2018
#68
Woosh! Of course it is a white bigot term. Don't buy into and call them "white spaces".
Bernardo de La Paz
Aug 2018
#103
Jesse Hamilton has betrayed the Democratic party and his constituents by joining the IDC
Renew Deal
Aug 2018
#32
In Chicago any call that requests a police officer to be dispatched ALWAYS goes to 911
Hassin Bin Sober
Aug 2018
#51
The callers are pointing a loaded weapon at people going about their lives when 911 is called...
Hekate
Aug 2018
#46
"The callers are pointing a loaded weapon at people going about their lives when 911 is called..."
sheshe2
Aug 2018
#47
"There's also the potential impact of making people not call 911 when they should to consider."
MineralMan
Aug 2018
#72
the real answer thats simple is to send the white person a bill from the police dept....
beachbum bob
Aug 2018
#78