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In reply to the discussion: David Hogg calls out Bernie [View all]Exotica
(1,461 posts)here are the cold hard numbers for gun lobby money
I went and looked at Senators all the way back to 1990
These were the top Democratic Senators in terms of gun lobby money
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary.php?ind=Q13&cycle=All&recipdetail=S&sortorder=A&mem=Y&page=1
Specter, Arlen (D-PA) $47,900
Nelson, Ben (D-NE) $46,250
Obama, Barack (D) $44,371
Clinton, Hillary (D-NY) $33,713
Reid, Harry (D-NV) $30,250
Breaux, John (D-LA) $23,800
Donnelly, Joe (D-IN) $22,400
Manchin, Joe (D-WV) $20,700
Johnson, Tim (D-SD) $20,500
Hollings, Fritz (D-SC) $17,800
Dorgan, Byron L (D-ND) $14,800
Baucus, Max (D-MT) $14,250
Sanders, Bernie (I-VT) $11,129
Heitkamp, Heidi (D-ND) $8,000
Pryor, Mark (D-AR) $8,000
Conrad, Kent (D-ND) $7,000
Heinrich, Martin (D-NM) $6,500
Warner, Mark (D-VA) $5,500
Heflin, Howell (D-AL) $4,950
Gore, Al (D) $4,250
Bradley, Bill (D) $4,050
Kerry, John (D-MA) $3,250
Edwards, John (D) $2,550
Tester, Jon (D-MT) $2,500
Begich, Mark (D-AK) $2,000
Daschle, Tom (D-SD) $2,000
Ford, Wendell H (D-KY) $2,000
Klobuchar, Amy (D-MN) $2,000
Stabenow, Debbie (D-MI) $2,000
Udall, Mark (D-CO) $1,500
Miller, Zell (D-GA) $1,000
Webb, Jim (D-VA) $500
Duckworth, Tammy (D-IL) $50
In the House
Peterson, Collin (D-MN) $96,500
Rahall, Nick (D-WV) $81,900
Mollohan, Alan B (D-WV) $79,800
Boyd, Allen (D-FL) $78,600
Skelton, Ike (D-MO) $78,350
Holden, Tim (D-PA) $76,950
Lucas, Frank D (R-OK) $73,324
Boucher, Rick (D-VA) $71,600
Dingell, John D (D-MI) $61,500
Bishop, Sanford (D-GA) $58,815
Ortiz, Solomon P (D-TX) $57,150
Hilliard, Earl F (D-AL) $56,050
furthermore
they (Open Secrets) co-mingle things when a person is a member of congress but also has run for POTUS
here is the link for ALL cycles (cumulative totals in gun lobby money (not all is from the NRA) given directly to a candidate for the last 28 years (since 1990)
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary.php?ind=Q13&cycle=All&recipdetail=S&sortorder=A&mem=Y&page=1
All Senators
Candidate Amount
McCain, John (R-AZ) $618,113
Cruz, Ted (R-TX) $460,367
Rubio, Marco (R-FL) $244,019
Paul, Rand (R-KY) $231,587
snip
Obama, Barack (D) $44,371
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Clinton, Hillary (D-NY) $33,713
Murkowski, Frank H (R-AK) $33,700
Fischer, Deb (R-NE) $33,335
Gorton, Slade (R-WA) $33,300
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Helms, Jesse (R-NC) $11,400
Sanders, Bernie (I-VT) $11,129
snip
notice those totals, that is all moneys given to Obama, Clinton and Sanders since 1990, no matter what race (Rep, Sen, POTUS)
now here is 2008 POTUS
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?ind=Q13&cycle=2008&recipdetail=P&mem=N&sortorder=U
Presidential Candidates
1 McCain, John (R) $515,128
2 Thompson, Fred (R) $75,575
3 Romney, Mitt (R) $72,675
4 Giuliani, Rudolph W (R) $50,450
5 Huckabee, Mike (R) $25,300
6 Paul, Ron (R) $24,813
7 Obama, Barack (D) $22,337
8 Gilmore, Jim (R) $16,950
9 Hunter, Duncan (R) $13,009
10 Tancredo, Tom (R) $7,625
11 Clinton, Hillary (D) $7,000
12 Richardson, Bill (D) $2,750
13 Edwards, John (D) $2,550
14 Nader, Ralph (I) $2,450
15 Brownback, Sam (R) $1,950
16 Barr, Bob (L) $1,000
17 Thompson, Tommy (R) $500
18 Baldwin, Chuck (3) $250
now 2012
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?ind=Q13&recipdetail=P&sortorder=U&mem=N&cycle=2012
7 Obama, Barack (D) $22,034
and finally
2016
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?ind=Q13&recipdetail=P&sortorder=U&mem=N&cycle=2016
Presidential Candidates
1 Trump, Donald (R) $814,236
2 Carson, Ben (R) $119,566
3 Walker, Scott (R) $39,510
4 Fiorina, Carly (R) $32,517
5 Bush, Jeb (R) $31,490
6 Clinton, Hillary (D) $26,713
7 Kasich, John (R) $20,399
8 Huckabee, Mike (R) $11,751
9 Sanders, Bernie (D) $11,129
do the maths
Totals since 1990
Bernie
Sanders, Bernie (I-VT) $11,129
all from 2016, but still it is only 11,129 usd total from 28 years (that's like 750th in overall Congress/Potus)
Hillary
total since 1990 all races
Clinton, Hillary (D-NY) $33,713
2008 she got 7,000
and in 2016 $26,713
adds up
and Obama
total since 1990
Obama, Barack (D) $44,371
7 Obama, Barack (D) $22,337 2008
7 Obama, Barack (D) $22,034 2012
adds up all around
Bernie is well past 700th place in government elected officials when it comes to total gun lobby money (when you add house, POTUS, Senate totals together)
and its disingenuous to try to tar him with 11K when Hillary got around triple that (in less time too) and Obama almost 4 times as much total in even less than Clinton, let alone Bernie
I am not a Sanders fangirl, I supported and voted for Hillary in the primaries, I do NOT (as stated above) want him to run in 2020, but these divisive attacks on Sanders (and thus the 10 to 15 million plus supporters he has who will vote) are ripping the party apart
I want to focus on 2018 NOW, and also, after 2020 and what we can do to rid the world of TRUMP
not beat dead horses and rehash 2016 primaries, or give legit Democratic voters (twice as many Hillary 2008 primary voters voted for McCain as did Bernie primary voters voting for Trump in 2016) reason to say 'fuck it all, I am not voting'
Bernie has close to zero chance of ever being POTUS, shredding things up only hurts us Democratic Party members and the country and actually the world
I hope you can see where I am coming from