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SunSeeker

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27. You seem to be paying a lot of attention right now.

Reply to hack89 (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 26, 2018, 02:23 PM

Feb 2018

I'll take that as a good sign.

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David Hogg shares fellow students plan for gun control on Twitter [View all] johnpowdy Feb 2018 OP

Post removed Post removed Feb 2018 #1

Maybe it is time we start listening to urban youth instead of rural elders on guns. LonePirate Feb 2018 #2

I agree. We need to start listening to our children johnpowdy Feb 2018 #3

Gun ownership is an addiction pangaia Feb 2018 #101

That's pretty good samir.g Feb 2018 #4

Lots of problems: yagotme Feb 2018 #5

The initial costs of most guns already make it a "rich man's" sport, yeah? procon Feb 2018 #7

You can buy expensive guns, yagotme Feb 2018 #8

You do understand that the arguments in favor of stronger gun safety laws procon Feb 2018 #17

How do you know the police qualify for all this? yagotme Feb 2018 #84

Don't move the goalposts. The question is about individual gun owners, not procon Feb 2018 #87

You say you're talking about individual gun owners, yagotme Mar 2018 #109

The problem is that too many people are killed or kill themselves by guns. Sophia4 Feb 2018 #78

There is NO surefire way to prevent killings. yagotme Feb 2018 #85

" Be it by gun, baseball bat, 9 iron, car, or swimming pool. Life is full of risks." pangaia Feb 2018 #103

If you want to reduce the rate of killings, then I would think yagotme Mar 2018 #110

long guns, bump stock, firearms, breech ballistic coefficient... pangaia Mar 2018 #111

Fiddle dee de, fiddle de dum, yagotme Mar 2018 #113

Now you're getting the idea.... pangaia Mar 2018 #114

Could be one reason why this is merely an outline rather than an actual law. LanternWaste Feb 2018 #14

Agreed it is the first step towards a sensible debate exboyfil Feb 2018 #29

Excellent idea. More exposure! And the NRA can stand up its strawmen in the debase. erronis Feb 2018 #41

Put fascism on the debate schedule if it is not already there, pangaia Feb 2018 #104

"Private production of bullets is prohibited." pazzyanne Feb 2018 #23

Are you asking me, or the OP? yagotme Feb 2018 #83

Guns kill. Just like drugs the possession of which is against the law. Sophia4 Feb 2018 #77

Always lots of problems HopeAgain Feb 2018 #102

He has a very thoughtful and sensible plan. procon Feb 2018 #6

How far back are you willing to go? yagotme Feb 2018 #9

There is very little doable about this hack89 Feb 2018 #13

I am not sure if you are in touch with cultural reality on this issue. LonePirate Feb 2018 #31

Here is my personal indicator that change is coming hack89 Feb 2018 #40

Yes....there should be insurance. Why are gun owners not liable for their guns? Kirk Lover Feb 2018 #10

They are. hack89 Feb 2018 #12

No. A lawsuit against an uninsured/judgment proof gun owner isn't worth the paper it's printed on. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #20

Ok. So what do you think will be insured? hack89 Feb 2018 #24

So if insurance is so cheap, why are you opposed to this requirement? SunSeeker Feb 2018 #26

Because it is counter productive hack89 Feb 2018 #28

But the NRA isn't really representing anyone except money launderers and the GOP recipients. erronis Feb 2018 #44

Who do you think is the biggest seller of gun liablity insurance? hack89 Feb 2018 #48

I hate to break the news but those single issue voters ooky Feb 2018 #51

ok. nt hack89 Feb 2018 #52

I dont buy into the insurance is not for intentional crimes argument against insuring guns. ooky Feb 2018 #46

Only if negligence can be proven hack89 Feb 2018 #50

We are not talking the same insurance market. ooky Feb 2018 #53

Mine are insured for their value in case they are stolen hack89 Feb 2018 #55

Yea thats where we dont agree. ooky Feb 2018 #59

But don't we want to stop attacks, not pay victims after the fact? hack89 Feb 2018 #60

Why does it need to just have deterrent value to the shooter to be a viable option? ooky Feb 2018 #65

the problem is an insurance requirement noobareus Feb 2018 #99

Or charging gasoline tax or making childless couples pay real estate taxes, or charging.... marble falls Feb 2018 #100

Those aren't Constitutionally protected rights Abnredleg Mar 2018 #105

You don't think gas taxes or license requirement interfere with the right to free movement... marble falls Mar 2018 #106

Background checks are legal Abnredleg Mar 2018 #108

owning an auto isn't a constitutional right noobareus Mar 2018 #107

Owning a gun isn't an explicit Constitutional right, either, joining "a well regulated militia" is. marble falls Apr 2018 #116

They have to pay for gun, ammo and license in order to shoot a gun. Fla Dem Mar 2018 #115

That's a fundamental principle of insurance. You can't wish it away, and 'study it'. X_Digger Feb 2018 #73

What is a fundamental principle of insurance? (What do you mean by that?) ooky Feb 2018 #75

The fundamental principle is that you can't cover an intentional act (by the covered). X_Digger Feb 2018 #80

Im not suggesting to cover the actor. ooky Feb 2018 #82

Not sure exactly what you are seeking hardluck Feb 2018 #90

Thanks for a thoughtful response hardluck. ooky Feb 2018 #91

The gun isn't the insured. The owner of the policy, is. X_Digger Feb 2018 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author ooky Feb 2018 #93

So, okay x digger ooky Feb 2018 #94

I'm sorry, I'm having a hard time taking such a half-assed idea seriously. X_Digger Feb 2018 #95

I dont care what you think or what you want. ooky Feb 2018 #96

So, no answer to the pimp or local corner boy taking out such a policy? X_Digger Feb 2018 #97

Nothing like a solution grounded in legal, political and cultural reality. hack89 Feb 2018 #11

Empty and petulant criticisms are fun! LanternWaste Feb 2018 #15

For the past 20 years we have seen a steady liberalization of gun laws in America hack89 Feb 2018 #16

Nevertheless, they persisted IronLionZion Feb 2018 #21

When gun control recovers the ground lost since the federal AWB expired hack89 Feb 2018 #25

You seem to be paying a lot of attention right now. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #27

Idle chatter on the internet is not "a lot of attention". hack89 Feb 2018 #30

The Florida kids are doing just that--engaging with the real world. SunSeeker Feb 2018 #33

I applaud them for their efforts hack89 Feb 2018 #35

I'm waiting for a great American university to give this kid a full scholarship onetexan Feb 2018 #18

I'm waiting for voters to give him a new job. calimary Feb 2018 #49

not yet, let him go get a college education onetexan Feb 2018 #67

I love it! SunSeeker Feb 2018 #19

The outline is good except pazzyanne Feb 2018 #22

It's a beginning point for negotiation. I see it as rather modest as first offer seeking compromise flamin lib Feb 2018 #34

Actually, it isn't. Straw Man Feb 2018 #45

Agree. pazzyanne Feb 2018 #58

Reinforce? Straw Man Feb 2018 #42

And I am just saying pazzyanne Feb 2018 #57

Yea ok Watchfoxheadexplodes Feb 2018 #32

I thought I heard something rattling . . . nt flamin lib Feb 2018 #38

With only minor differences this is how the Military treats guns. They seem to know a lot about gun flamin lib Feb 2018 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author flamin lib Feb 2018 #37

Minor differences? Straw Man Feb 2018 #47

It's a good starting place. TygrBright Feb 2018 #39

Not really. Straw Man Feb 2018 #43

GEEE, just like owning a car... or a house... IllinoisBirdWatcher Feb 2018 #54

Stop already .... Lurker Deluxe Feb 2018 #63

Not to be picky, but everyone submits to these obvious regulations... IllinoisBirdWatcher Feb 2018 #68

Guns are already "Well Regulated" Motownman78 Feb 2018 #69

Which is why there is no Constitutional prohibition against IllinoisBirdWatcher Feb 2018 #72

But they do not ... and do not have to Lurker Deluxe Feb 2018 #70

Thanks for the reply. IllinoisBirdWatcher Feb 2018 #71

What did you want. Insistence on registration only if one plans on using it on the public. boston bean Feb 2018 #81

I like it! Responsible gun ownership. MuseRider Feb 2018 #56

Excuse me ... Straw Man Feb 2018 #62

Blah blah blah MuseRider Feb 2018 #86

Nice rant. Straw Man Feb 2018 #88

Don't care. MuseRider Feb 2018 #89

That's obvious. Straw Man Feb 2018 #98

That's going nowhere at light speed. Bonx Feb 2018 #61

minngal marieo1 Feb 2018 #64

Gun fetishes must be denormalized as drunk driving or smoking in the workplace were. hunter Feb 2018 #66

I can hear all the palms slapping foreheads among Democrats in office. aikoaiko Feb 2018 #74

I would add no guns for those convicted of domestic violence or violent acts. Sophia4 Feb 2018 #76

He'll either grow up to be POTUS - raven mad Feb 2018 #79

Kick and Recommend! Go, kids, Go! blake2012 Mar 2018 #112