Thanks for the article...

... I read it and the other articles referenced in other posts about the incidents where undercover police were exposed during protests.

From the article: "...the agency and other police departments have had plainclothes officers dressed in protester attire walking in these marches since the first demonstration Nov. 24, and he said they will continue to employ this tactic..."

This is essentially the response given by the Canadian authorities also, to incidents that were linked to in other posts in this thread.

In other words, these are not "agent provocateurs", they are undercover surveillance, intelligence gathering in support of crowd control. This is far more "active" than the "report filers" that I was describing, but it essentially falls into the same category and represents a legitimate police function.

As far as there actually being violent hoodlums and vandals amongst these protestors,in support of whatever "anarchists" or other ideology they identify with, it isn't very hard to find confirmation. Just to prove this point, I did a very cursory web search and very easily found one such advocate of violence, a fellow named Gord Hill who goes by the name of Zig Zag on line and has been publishing advice and encouragement for "black bloc" protest tactics for some number of years on several web sites. His latest post (on Warrior Publications) is advice to help protect the identity of the minority of protestors in Ferguson who employed the violent and destructive tactics he advocates. His "about" page gives his eMail address, and I'm sure that, as long as it does not involve any actually incriminating self-confessions, he would be happy to explain his motivations for advocating violence, vandalism and disruption as protest tactics.

In other words, the black bloc is real and the vandalism is real. And, as you pointed out, the undercover police presence is real - and justified.

The fires in Furgison...

...weren't caused by spontaneous combustion. The were caused by incendary devices like this one. After one prominent "protestor" urged the crowd to and “Burn this bitch down”.

I'm glad the cops are taking this threat serriously, and anyone caught with molotov cocktail at a protest should be arrested and jailed immediatly.

Liberal Arts? What the fuck are they good for?

HEADLINE: Pro Beijing forces blame Liberal Studies course in secondary school for filling young minds with dangerous Western ideas.

HEADLINE: Pro Beijing forces blame Liberal Studies course in secondary school for filling young minds with dangerous Western ideas.


Subversion, that's what. Never forget - liberal means liberty!

Guardin Whistle-blower Exposes ESA Coverup Conspiracy

-------- Original message --------
From: poiuy2
Date: Monday, November 17, 2014 at 3:05 PM
To: qwerty1
Subject: Philae comet lander alien ‘cover-up’ conspiracy theories emerge

FYI

*headdesk*

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/nov/13/philae-comet-lander-alien-cover-up-conspiracy-theories-emerge

-------- Original message --------
From:  qwert1
Date:11/17/2014 3:25 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To:  poiuy2
Subject: Re: Philae comet lander alien Œcover-up¹ conspiracy theories emerge 

Between this and Edward Snowden, The Guardian is really going down a few notches in my mind!

-------- Original message --------
From: poiuy2
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 6:26 PM
To: qwertyy1
Subject: Re: Philae comet lander alien Œcover-up¹ conspiracy theories emerge

 The email, allegedly from a secret whistle-blowing employee of the ESA, accuses the agency of “blatant cover-ups” in wanting to land on the speeding comet and attaches photos which claim to reveal the “true inner workings of Comet 67P”.

I wonder how long he'll be hold up in the Moscow airport before Putin grants him asylum?

-------- Original message --------
From: qwerty1

Date:11/17/2014 8:06 PM (GMT-05:00) 
To: poiuy2
Subject: RE: Philae comet lander alien Œcover-up¹ conspiracy theories emerge 

​I think you'e got it!  (Or maybe Snowden's working for ESA now?)

BTW, since I'm mentioning Snowden in this email, I'd like to say hi to my sister and brother-in-law at NSA.  I hope things are going well and that you have a nice Thanksgiving!

The Dude Needs a Vacation....

Wheeler tried to pull out of his garage only to find his driveway blocked by protesters... He complained how the process has become "politicized".

Politicized...? DUH!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/11/14/how-obamas-net-neutrality-comments-undid-weeks-of-fcc-work/

G.O.T. /PEOPLE'S/ V.

This quote is basically fake, and very missleading....

...Mussolini did not say this, although he did talk about "corporatism". However, the "corporatism" he was referring to is a moderate form of guild socialism or syndicalism. Mussolini was claiming that fascism was in actuality the realization of the goals and ideals of guild socialism / syndicalism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism

http://www.publiceye.org/fascist/corporatism.html

Wendy Davis did make a mistake.....

The imminent backlash, take two: The Resurgent Left.

Been to the library lately?

I get to the library every few weeks or so. Often I'm picking up or dropping off a book for my SO, but I always check out the new arrivals, and generally end bringing something home for myself. And I just like walking around and seeing what's happening. The other day I decided to drive over to the new branch to check it out...

There are a LOT of kids! Some with parents, but most seem to have been dropped off or to have gotten there on their own. They sit at the tables in cliques and seem to be reading and studying together - socializing! - and as an old school library patron the degree of interaction always seems to annoy me a bit. Kids these days!

And, of course, there are the computers. There are quite a few still set up in isolating "study carols". Sometimes, as I stroll around, I guiltily peak at what's on the screen - often looks like job hunting, blogging and chatting, always a few games (Kids now days!) and, of course, homework research. But the big change here is that the patrons (young and old) are bringing in laptops and are sitting around all over the place connected in through the wifi. My son has been to "wifi parties" where the kids get together and sit around in the same room with their laptops connected together - I'm not sure I understand what's going on (probably the point) but maybe the wifi library kids are up to the same.

Downstairs is the video collection, the music collection and the juvenile section - I head upstairs to where the "new arrivals" are supposed to be shelved, and spot a glassed in room that has some "artifacts" on display. Through the glass I spot a very interesting artifact amongst the others - a CARD CATALOG! A sign on the door says its the "library of the county historical society". I figure the catalog is on display as a historical relic of the original library, so I pop in to take a look. I feign interest in the other displays, then ask about the card catalog. Nope, the man behind the desk informs me that it is a real, honest-to-goodness, functioning card catalog. The library system gives them space for their collection, but doesn't integrate it into the county's collection. So they do it the old fashioned way. I look up a few topics in the card catalog, just for old times sake. A tear forms in the corner of my eye.

The new arrivals are right next to the foreign language section. An elderly Asian couple are looking over the selection and when they give me a smile I try out my Chinese phrase on them -that's singular, I'm a one-trick pony - and then ask them to translate some of the titles for me. This is actually something that I used to bug folks about all the time, since I used to stop by and pick up books for my father in law when he was living with us. Someone with "local knowledge" would usually be looking over the selection and would help me pick out books that were on topics of interest to him. I couldn't do it myself!

Then I pursue the new arrivals. This is how I stay current, sort of a "slice of life" of what's new and interesting. On this occasion I pick up a history of Renaissance Faires and another about the "model minority" stereotype (links below).

Then I head out. I skip the check-out line and go through the self service kiosk. All of the books are tagged with RF IDs !!11!! You practically just walk out the door with them and they check themselves out as you leave! (Also, it makes it easy for that guy in the trench coat lurking around just outside the perimeter to id the communists, er, terrorists.)

On the way out, I head off the lobby over to the coffee shop and community room area. In the community room is a large, noisy and active crowd of kids and adults - I check it out and its a ROBOTICS competition. They have arenas set up for the robots to display their prowess and to compete in "task battles" against one another. All around the room are science fair type exhibits for each of the individual teams and robots. They are doing a bake sale to support the competition; I pick up a few cookies for the SO. And everywhere there are kids, kids, kids! Noisy, rambunctious, active and yet, strangely enough, very focused and on-task kids! Sheesh, kids these days!!!!



http://www.amazon.com/Unraveling-Model-Minority-Stereotype-Listening/dp/0807749737

http://www.amazon.com/Well-Met-Renaissance-American-Counterculture/dp/0814771386