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I think he still trusts his gut, and thinks he'll win again. I suspect he's counting on Vlad's help again, like last time. He reasons that he'll get away with this, too, because that's just how it's always worked out for him.
But then again, even if Pence gets to SAY he was "president" for a day or a week or whatever, he'll have an asterisk by his name as well, AND perpetual questions to face as to why, AND it will likely K.O. any hopes he has of running for President on his own. He'll be the "he pardoned trump" dude, and will forevermore be known for that. Gerald Ford had to run against that, too. And he was beaten by Jimmy Carter in 1976.
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That's how Nixon got away with it. And one of the main reasons the man who pardoned him failed to win election in his own right, two years later. All you heard, during that campaign, from people commenting or talking with friends and family, was "...he pardoned Nixon." All things being equal, for many voters, between Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter was "...he pardoned Nixon."
Most of America REALLY wanted Nixon to face justice. Exile wasn't enough. And then he did a David Frost interview that aired internationally, so he didn't stay invisible for long.
I bet he'd make a run for it.
Thing is - he's so deeply invested in denial. And almost everybody around him remembers 2016 and all the signs that Hillary Clinton would win. And he came from behind and squeeeeeeaked out a "win." I think he might gamble on going for it.
And I hope so, because I'm afraid the Pence thing would be lethal for us. It would stop the hemorrhaging of moderates and conservative-leaning independents. The "Christian right" would leap at it and almost literally force its congregations to the polls to vote. Pence would be acceptable enough to all the wavering potential voters who are now looking to defect. TONS of these folks are party-over-country. TOO many.
But I could see it happening AFTER a very unfortunate Election Night for the donald. Could even happen ON Election Night, assuming it starts to become clear that Biden's gonna take it. We might just see donald disappear - except I'd also expect he'd fight the results, call them fake, call them a hoax, that he really won (without producing any evidence), and spread all kinds of verbal mess all over everywhere, from physical yowling to tweeting.
Another update -
At 9:02am
Confirmed cases worldwide - 10,514,451
Deaths worldwide - 512,696
Confirmed cases US - 2,665,132
Deaths US - 128,598
At 10:02am
Confirmed cases worldwide - 10,515,307
Deaths worldwide - 512,722
Confirmed cases US - 2,665,988
Deaths US - 128,624
At 10:11am
Confirmed cases worldwide - 10,515,720
Deaths worldwide - 512,728
Confirmed cases US - 2,666,401
Deaths US - 128,630
At 10:32am
Confirmed cases worldwide - 10,515,769
Deaths worldwide - 512,728
Confirmed cases US - 2,666,450
Deaths US - 126,630
At 10:37am
Confirmed cases worldwide - 10,516,414
Deaths worldwide - 512,732
Confirmed cases US - 2,667,095
Deaths US - 128,632
Update -
At 9:02am
Confirmed cases worldwide - 10,514,451
Deaths worldwide - 512,696
Confirmed cases US - 2,665,132
Deaths US - 128,598
At 10:02am
Confirmed cases worldwide - 10,515,307
Deaths worldwide - 512,722
Confirmed cases US - 2,665,988
Deaths US - 128,624
At 10:11am
Confirmed cases worldwide - 10,515,720
Deaths worldwide - 512,728
Confirmed cases US - 2,666,401
Deaths US - 128,630
At 10:32am
Confirmed cases worldwide - 10,515,769
Deaths worldwide - 512,728
Confirmed cases US - 2,666,450
Deaths US - 126,630
Update -
At 9:02am
Confirmed cases worldwide - 10,514,451
Deaths worldwide - 512,696
Confirmed cases US - 2,665,132
Deaths US - 128,598
At 10:02am
Confirmed cases worldwide - 10,515,307
Deaths worldwide - 512,722
Confirmed cases US - 2,665,988
Deaths US - 128,624
At 10:11am
Confirmed cases worldwide - 10,515,720
Deaths worldwide - 512,728
Confirmed cases US - 2,666,401
Deaths US - 128,630
Update -
At 9:02am
Confirmed cases worldwide - 10,514,451
Deaths worldwide - 512,696
Confirmed cases US - 2,665,132
Deaths US - 128,598
At 10:02am
Confirmed cases worldwide - 10,515,307
Deaths worldwide - 512,722
Confirmed cases US - 2,665,988
Deaths US - 128,624
Well done!
Just out of curiosity, where'd we leave off last night?
YESTERDAY, Tuesday, 6/30/20At 9:09am
Confirmed cases worldwide - 10,301,379
Deaths worldwide - 505,776
Confirmed cases US - 2,610,388
Deaths US - 126,940
At 9:43am
Confirmed cases worldwide - 10,306,931
Deaths worldwide - 505,841
Confirmed cases US - 2,615,940
Deaths US - 127,005
At 10:05am
Confirmed cases worldwide - 10,307,336
Deaths worldwide - 505,857
Confirmed cases US - 2,616,345
Deaths US - 127,021
At 11:35am
Confirmed cases worldwide - 10,312,261
Deaths worldwide - 505,943
Confirmed cases US - 2,621,270
Deaths US - 127,107
At 7:36pm - back we go to the domestic data graphic.
Confirmed cases US - 2,638,341
Deaths US - 128,209
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TODAY, Wednesday, 7 1 20
At 9:02am
Confirmed cases worldwide - 10,514,451
Deaths worldwide - 512,696
Confirmed cases US - 2,665,132
Deaths US - 128,598
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