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marlakay

(11,474 posts)
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 05:57 PM Dec 2019

What's with the pile up on Elizabeth

In the Primaries thread?

I tried to go for no ones perfect lets be nice but was told Warren people like to judge.

Which is odd because every time I go into that thread 90% is about other people not her.

I like Elizabeth, she makes mistakes they all do I just hate this season of put downs.

Will be so glad when it's over.



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What's with the pile up on Elizabeth (Original Post) marlakay Dec 2019 OP
Still my favorite katmondoo Dec 2019 #1
Post removed Post removed Dec 2019 #2
It is so sad to see because BlueMTexpat Dec 2019 #3
I just hope people can see past marlakay Dec 2019 #5
What you say about understanding the BlueMTexpat Dec 2019 #6
Some centrists just can't accept their failures. n/t MarcA Dec 2019 #4
Get use to it saljr1 Dec 2019 #7
EXACTLY nbsmom Dec 2019 #8

Response to marlakay (Original post)

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
3. It is so sad to see because
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 07:49 PM
Dec 2019

I lived through the same in 2016 with Hillary, although not necessarily with the same people.

But what I find most sad is that some of those who gleefully post something where they perceive that Elizabeth has made a faux pas or is losing support - in their opinion - were also Hillary supporters in 2016. They seem to have forgotten that it is much the same dynamic at work in this cycle, e.g., sexist in that they are willing to overlook things like the Iraq War vote in Biden (and in Kerry in 2004) whereas Hillary was constantly excoriated for it in 2016.

If anything, she of the three had an excuse. She was a junior Senator and was from NY, a prime target of 9-11, and feelings were STILL running high there. Both Kerry and Biden were supposedly foreign policy buffs while Hillary's focus was primarily domestic. Yet both of the soi-disant foreign policy "experts" failed that particular test.

Some are also anti-anyone who may ever have had Republican connections. Hillary had them too and was, again wrongfully, IMO, excoriated for them. One big difference between them is that Hillary has always been politically active whereas Elizabeth was not until comparatively recently. Once Elizabeth became politically active, she became a Democrat. Since then, anything she has done has been for the betterment of the party as a whole. Unlike some current candidates, her loyalty to the party has NEVER been in doubt.

The problem, IMO, is that some simply refuse to see that their chosen candidate may be much more vulnerable once the GOP smear machine really gets underway in the GE than Elizabeth will be.

Most of the smears against her have already played out and she is STILL standing.

marlakay

(11,474 posts)
5. I just hope people can see past
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 08:11 PM
Dec 2019

The we have to have a moderate to win.

I feel media pushes that idea on everyone.

I have been here since 2004 so a lot of primaries but your right last time was nasty, I was one who was for Bernie then voted for Hillary.

I have followed Elizabeth for a long time back before she was a senator Jon had her on the daily show and I thought this woman can go far, she is brilliant and no matter what silly sites say very very likable.

I don’t hold her past against her because in my 20’s I voted republican when i went to a evangelical type church, thank god I escaped all that. I am firm on my beliefs now but understand the other side because of it. It has helped me talking to them.

BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
6. What you say about understanding the
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 08:48 PM
Dec 2019

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other side is one of the things that I believe makes Elizabeth such an effective Senator.

What too many here seem to forget is that, not only is Elizabeth a member of several Senate Committees (see below), she is also the Vice-Chair of the Senate Democratic Caucus. Only someone who is able to work effectively with her peers on both sides of the aisle can handle such a nomination. But she has no illusions or delusions about what Republicans today are.

Committee assignments
- Committee on Armed Services
- Subcommittee on Airland
- Subcommittee on Personnel
- Subcommittee on Strategic Forces
- Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs
- Subcommittee on Economic Policy
- Subcommittee on Financial Institutions and Consumer Protection (ranking member)
- Subcommittee on Securities, Insurance, and Investment
- Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions
- Subcommittee on Primary Health and Retirement Security
- Special Committee on Aging

I know that Elizabeth is someone who will fight very hard for what this country should be, instead of what it currently is!

saljr1

(273 posts)
7. Get use to it
Sat Dec 28, 2019, 08:52 PM
Dec 2019

The last candidate the corporate democrats, wall street and the filthy rich people of this country is a candidate that's for fairness and structural change. they got too much to lose.

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