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Uncle Joe

(58,378 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 03:55 PM Apr 2019

Bernie Sanders First to Sign Pledge to Rally Behind Democratic Nominee



National progressive outfit Indivisible on Thursday launched a pledge compelling all 2020 Democratic presidential candidates to rally behind the eventual nominee. Bernie Sanders was the first to sign it, the group revealed.

The “We Are Indivisible” pledge asks for three commitments from him and any other prospective signers, as first reported by BuzzFeed News. First, Indivisible’s pledge requests that candidates “make the primary constructive” by outlining their visions while respecting their opponents.

“I’ll support the ultimate Democratic nominee, whoever it is—period," the pledge also reads. “No Monday morning quarterbacking. No third-party threats. Immediately after there’s a nominee, I’ll endorse.”

And the group also wants a commitment that every candidate will “do the work to beat Trump,” including a promise that “As soon as there is a nominee, I will put myself at the disposal of the campaign.”

(snip)

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bernie-sanders-first-to-sign-pledge-to-rally-behind-whoever-wins-democratic-primary


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Bernie Sanders First to Sign Pledge to Rally Behind Democratic Nominee (Original Post) Uncle Joe Apr 2019 OP
It's a trick. A-Schwarzenegger Apr 2019 #1
Hahaha yesss!! Seriously, no surprise to see Bernie leading out on this. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #22
Why did he even feel that it was NECESSARY? With everyone else, it's a GIVEN!! NurseJackie Apr 2019 #35
So is you complaint that he didn't let some other candidate(s) sign it first? thesquanderer Apr 2019 #38
What in the world gave you that idea? Who's complaining? All I'm saying is that it's bizarre... NurseJackie Apr 2019 #46
So, when he was asked the question, should he have NOT signed it? TCJ70 Apr 2019 #51
It's bizarre. Why would such a thing even be necessary? NurseJackie Apr 2019 #52
Bernie doesn't want them to do to him, what he did to Hillary Fresh_Start Apr 2019 #68
Because the rest of the candidates aren't really Democrats even though they belong to the party nt tymorial Apr 2019 #59
THIS!!! (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #69
All 20 had better sign this pledge. No reason not to. None. Funtatlaguy Apr 2019 #2
Good on Bernie, I know he will fully back the nominee anyway but its nice to pledge it too. nt yaesu Apr 2019 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #4
Nomination formerly happens at the convention. In 2016 Sanders endorsed Clinton before PoliticAverse Apr 2019 #6
Don't confound the issue with facts. CentralMass Apr 2019 #9
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #13
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #10
I remember when he flip flopped on his Iraq War Vote , 1st he was for it, then he was against it. bahrbearian Apr 2019 #15
So in boyh 2008 and 2016 Sanders endorsed the nominee of the Democratic party... PoliticAverse Apr 2019 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #18
... mcar Apr 2019 #5
That is rich. boston bean Apr 2019 #7
Too bad we dont have a time machine to go back to 2016. nt mr_liberal Apr 2019 #8
Or 2008 . CentralMass Apr 2019 #11
Why 2008? (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #71
I hear you. Arkansas Granny Apr 2019 #12
Great Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #14
A worthy question. VERY worthy. calimary Apr 2019 #61
What about his campaign leadership? nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #17
Only Bernie Sanders signing such a pledge could elicit negative responses. I say - good on him Nanjeanne Apr 2019 #19
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #26
Pledges are one thing, keeping them is another. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #30
Why did he even feel that it was NECESSARY? With everyone else, it's a GIVEN!! NurseJackie Apr 2019 #31
A great point, Jackie. BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #34
So it can be about him. nolabear Apr 2019 #49
Why not just sign a pledge to promise to never push elderly people down the escalator? NurseJackie Apr 2019 #50
Or to not misuse campaign funds, or refrain from knowingly serving tainted food at an event, or ehrnst Apr 2019 #72
You got that right!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #78
Has he shared his donor's list with the democratic party, yet? Fresh_Start Apr 2019 #20
Let's see what Bernie has to say about that, this time. oasis Apr 2019 #64
Ask not what you can contribute to the Democratic party, ask what you feel entitled Maru Kitteh Apr 2019 #66
Bit of a burn, there Hekate Apr 2019 #67
Let's See: Berniacs Like Nina Turner Gave Us Trump! He Should Pick Jill Stain As His VP! DoctorJoJo Apr 2019 #21
Good for him. Nice send sanders, Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #23
Ooph! NurseJackie Apr 2019 #24
Yay Bernie! No fooling! mountain grammy Apr 2019 #25
Oh my...how impressive. BooScout Apr 2019 #27
That's good. awesomerwb1 Apr 2019 #28
So, Doreen Apr 2019 #29
Most, if not all, of the other candidates really didn't have to sign such a pledge..... George II Apr 2019 #32
Indivisible cannabis_flower Apr 2019 #37
They're an independent group, not associated with the Democratic Party..... George II Apr 2019 #39
Would you explain more please. I listened to the podcasts and found them interesting. irisblue Apr 2019 #47
That's a given. MineralMan Apr 2019 #33
Unity Pledge Diabolixxx Apr 2019 #36
Based on past history the other candidates didn't need to make such a pledge. George II Apr 2019 #41
So the #1 in the polls is the first to sign a pledge to back the winner? pnwmom Apr 2019 #40
So you think he's got it wrapped up? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #43
I think HE does. n/t pnwmom Apr 2019 #45
It's weird that this was only needed until recently. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #42
Rip him if he does, rip him if he doesn't JonLP24 Apr 2019 #44
Ya think? JudyM Apr 2019 #62
Thank you, Bernie! They ALL need to do this, we're on the same team after all. gateley Apr 2019 #48
Nobody needs to "pledge" anything. This should be automatic, default, and expected. NurseJackie Apr 2019 #54
I am grateful he did this. It's a strong message to his supporters AlexSFCA Apr 2019 #53
Shouldn't his supporters be smart enough to already know this without having to be "spoon-fed" the... NurseJackie Apr 2019 #55
many of them are very extreme AlexSFCA Apr 2019 #56
... NurseJackie Apr 2019 #57
by the way if biden wins, warren will be his vp AlexSFCA Apr 2019 #58
There are many possible configurations that I'd be absolutely thrilled with! NurseJackie Apr 2019 #60
That's not a good enough standard. It should be to drop out when it's clear you won't acquire the ecstatic Apr 2019 #63
+1000. (nt) ehrnst Apr 2019 #73
Why not just use the standard Hillary invoked in her run against Obama? InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #79
Thanks for the thread, Uncle Joe mvd Apr 2019 #65
Interesting that a signed pledge is considered neccessary now, rather than being assumed ehrnst Apr 2019 #70
I'm not allowed to contrast his actions today with those in 2016 Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #74
And I'm not allowed to rebut your potential contrast with 2016 if you did Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #75
Oh don't let that stop you Blue_Tires Apr 2019 #76
That would be funny Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #77
 

A-Schwarzenegger

(15,596 posts)
1. It's a trick.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:00 PM
Apr 2019

Don't fall for it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
22. Hahaha yesss!! Seriously, no surprise to see Bernie leading out on this.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:33 PM
Apr 2019

But, rest assured, some will still find a reason to bash Bernie over this.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
35. Why did he even feel that it was NECESSARY? With everyone else, it's a GIVEN!!
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:59 PM
Apr 2019

Why did he even feel that it was NECESSARY? With everyone else, it's a GIVEN!! We naturally accept the idea that the other DEMOCRATS will support the Democratic Party's nominee, and that they won't grandstand about doing something that's moral and expected.

The fact that BS feels compelled to make such a boastful declaration is completely bizarre. What good purpose is it supposed to serve?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
38. So is you complaint that he didn't let some other candidate(s) sign it first?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:12 PM
Apr 2019

Because if anyone else signed it, and he didn't, I suspect you'd be on his case for that. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't? Or he has to do it in the right order?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
46. What in the world gave you that idea? Who's complaining? All I'm saying is that it's bizarre...
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:48 PM
Apr 2019
So is you complaint that he didn't let some other candidate(s) sign it first?
What in the world gave you that idea? Who's complaining? All I'm saying is that it's bizarre that anyone would think that such a thing is necessary at all, EVER. Why? It should be a-given that the those who didn't win the primary would enthusiastically support the eventual winner of the primary. It's just something that normal loyal Democrats would do without grandstanding about it. It's entirely possible to do the right thing without boasting or pledging in advance that you're going to do the right thing.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
51. So, when he was asked the question, should he have NOT signed it?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:48 PM
Apr 2019

What’s your alternative response he could have offered that would result in no suspicion from you?

Should the other candidates, since this is not something being specifically asked of Sanders, also not sign it?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
52. It's bizarre. Why would such a thing even be necessary?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:59 PM
Apr 2019

Correct. It's an absurd thing to ask of anyone. Yet BS and his followers seem to think it's something extraordinary and something that sets him apart from the rest of the pack.

It doesn't. This is the DEFAULT behavior I'd expect from ANYONE who's vying for the Democratic nomination.

The whole thing is just so silly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
68. Bernie doesn't want them to do to him, what he did to Hillary
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 08:31 AM
Apr 2019

Bernie should sign this. He is the only one with a track record of not supporting the winner.
So it is self-serving.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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tymorial

(3,433 posts)
59. Because the rest of the candidates aren't really Democrats even though they belong to the party nt
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:12 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Funtatlaguy

(10,884 posts)
2. All 20 had better sign this pledge. No reason not to. None.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:01 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
3. Good on Bernie, I know he will fully back the nominee anyway but its nice to pledge it too. nt
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:01 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to Uncle Joe (Original post)

 

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
6. Nomination formerly happens at the convention. In 2016 Sanders endorsed Clinton before
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:08 PM
Apr 2019

the convention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
9. Don't confound the issue with facts.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:10 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to CentralMass (Reply #9)

Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #6)

 

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)
15. I remember when he flip flopped on his Iraq War Vote , 1st he was for it, then he was against it.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:20 PM
Apr 2019

No that was someone else.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
16. So in boyh 2008 and 2016 Sanders endorsed the nominee of the Democratic party...
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:21 PM
Apr 2019

same as he's pledged to do in 2020.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #16)

 

mr_liberal

(1,017 posts)
8. Too bad we dont have a time machine to go back to 2016. nt
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:10 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
14. Great
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:20 PM
Apr 2019

The real question is will he suspend his campaign if it becomes apparent that he can’t win the nomination or will he fight on to the convention allowing his supporters and surrogates attack the nominee like he did in 16?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

calimary

(81,383 posts)
61. A worthy question. VERY worthy.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:37 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
17. What about his campaign leadership? nt
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:25 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Nanjeanne

(4,969 posts)
19. Only Bernie Sanders signing such a pledge could elicit negative responses. I say - good on him
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:29 PM
Apr 2019

and good on every other person running in the Democratic primary who signs it.

I'm no Biden fan at all - but I will rally around him should he be the nominee. We all have preferences in the primary - some for emotional reasons - others for policy reasons. And supporting and cheering our chosen candidates is what we do in the primaries. Some are convinced only "their" candidate can beat Trump - but truth is no one knows. The most qualified person, on paper, man or woman - to run in 2016 lost the Electoral College. At the end of the day - all the candidates are worthy to be running against the Orange Menance. And all will need our support. I'd sign the pledge - I'm glad Sanders did. I hope all will do the same.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #19)

 

BannonsLiver

(16,411 posts)
30. Pledges are one thing, keeping them is another.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:03 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
31. Why did he even feel that it was NECESSARY? With everyone else, it's a GIVEN!!
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:20 PM
Apr 2019

Why did he even feel that it was NECESSARY? With everyone else, it's a GIVEN!! We naturally accept the idea that the other DEMOCRATS will support the Democratic Party's nominee.

The fact that BS feels compelled to make such a declaration is odd.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BannonsLiver

(16,411 posts)
34. A great point, Jackie.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:52 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

nolabear

(41,990 posts)
49. So it can be about him.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:15 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
50. Why not just sign a pledge to promise to never push elderly people down the escalator?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:42 PM
Apr 2019

Come on! Who's with me?

I, Jackie Peyton, hereby promise that I will NEVER push elderly people down the escalator. I'm the first... but I hope my fellow members on DU will join in! But don't forget, I'm first to make this pledge!



This is all so silly. Is anyone actually IMPRESSED that I promised to never push elderly people down the escalator.

Think about it: Don't you automatically EXPECT, by default, that it's a GIVEN, that I wouldn't do push anyone down the escalator?

Wouldn't it seem weird if I suddenly started boasting about the fact that I didn't push an elderly person down the escalator?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
72. Or to not misuse campaign funds, or refrain from knowingly serving tainted food at an event, or
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 12:29 PM
Apr 2019

refrain from using racist terms, any other number of baseline ethical behaviors expected of a Democratic candidate.

Whatever has changed since 2016?



If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
78. You got that right!!
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 03:43 PM
Apr 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Fresh_Start

(11,330 posts)
20. Has he shared his donor's list with the democratic party, yet?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:31 PM
Apr 2019

because not sharing the donor's list is an act directly against the success for the democratic party candidates down ticket.

That's way more important than his signature on this petition.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

oasis

(49,395 posts)
64. Let's see what Bernie has to say about that, this time.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:42 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Maru Kitteh

(28,342 posts)
66. Ask not what you can contribute to the Democratic party, ask what you feel entitled
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 12:04 AM
Apr 2019

to, and take it from the Democratic party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Hekate

(90,755 posts)
67. Bit of a burn, there
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 12:59 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DoctorJoJo

(1,134 posts)
21. Let's See: Berniacs Like Nina Turner Gave Us Trump! He Should Pick Jill Stain As His VP!
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:32 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,624 posts)
23. Good for him. Nice send sanders,
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:33 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mountain grammy

(26,640 posts)
25. Yay Bernie! No fooling!
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:37 PM
Apr 2019

I'm having a hard time deciding between him and Warren. Hence, undecided.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BooScout

(10,406 posts)
27. Oh my...how impressive.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:42 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

awesomerwb1

(4,268 posts)
28. That's good.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:44 PM
Apr 2019

Now what about those lovely people he's hired to handle his campaign?

More worryingly err importantly, the most fanatical of his support base? I have been having a "discussion" back and forth with 3 Bernie bros on twitter and so far:
1- Will write in Bernie
1- Will vote for trump
1- Will not vote if Bernie loses primary.

It's anecdotal, but it worries me too many of them will pull a 2016 again.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
29. So,
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 04:54 PM
Apr 2019

is he actually saying that if he loses again he will not have the same temper tantrum as he did last time?

I voted for him in the last primaries but he actually turned me off to him when he did not immediately endorse and encourage his followers that Hillary was then the best choice.

Despite running against each other, when the primaries are done the ones who did not win NEED to ban TOGETHER and endorse, vote for, and strongly encourage their followers to vote for the Democrat primary winner.

What Bernie did was encourage his followers to either vote third party, trump, and some not vote at all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
32. Most, if not all, of the other candidates really didn't have to sign such a pledge.....
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:29 PM
Apr 2019

....they've demonstrated their support of Democratic candidates throughout their entire political careers.

Who is "Indivisible" anyway? Who are they to establish such a "pledge"?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
37. Indivisible
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:09 PM
Apr 2019

I don't know anything about them other than what's here

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indivisible_movement

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
39. They're an independent group, not associated with the Democratic Party.....
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:18 PM
Apr 2019

....with questionable roots.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

irisblue

(33,011 posts)
47. Would you explain more please. I listened to the podcasts and found them interesting.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:55 PM
Apr 2019

Thanks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MineralMan

(146,321 posts)
33. That's a given.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:32 PM
Apr 2019

I mean that's nice, Bernie, but who wouldn't? Not a benefit for him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Diabolixxx

(30 posts)
36. Unity Pledge
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:01 PM
Apr 2019

Kudos to Bernie for leading on the signing of the Indivisible pledge! I hope the other Democratic presidential candidates will sign the pledge as well.

The pledge agreement by candidates is a strong indication of unity which bodes well for the future of the Democratic Party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
41. Based on past history the other candidates didn't need to make such a pledge.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:22 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

pnwmom

(108,988 posts)
40. So the #1 in the polls is the first to sign a pledge to back the winner?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:20 PM
Apr 2019

That's a big surprise.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Voltaire2

(13,095 posts)
43. So you think he's got it wrapped up?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:36 PM
Apr 2019

Interesting.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

pnwmom

(108,988 posts)
45. I think HE does. n/t
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:48 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
42. It's weird that this was only needed until recently. nt
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:26 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
44. Rip him if he does, rip him if he doesn't
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:47 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

gateley

(62,683 posts)
48. Thank you, Bernie! They ALL need to do this, we're on the same team after all.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:58 PM
Apr 2019

Let the party of Trump be the divisive ones, the party of hate. We'll be the party of solidarity.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
54. Nobody needs to "pledge" anything. This should be automatic, default, and expected.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:00 PM
Apr 2019

This is so silly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
53. I am grateful he did this. It's a strong message to his supporters
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:59 PM
Apr 2019

that beating trump is much more important than any given policy. Everyone needs to do it. E.g., if BS wins, they all need to rally behind him 100% and, most importantly, Biden who holds the key to 10% of never trump gop voters and independent voters. He would the most critical role to play if BS wins the nomination.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
55. Shouldn't his supporters be smart enough to already know this without having to be "spoon-fed" the...
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:02 PM
Apr 2019

Shouldn't his supporters be smart enough to already know this without having to be "spoon-fed" the proper response to their candidate losing the contest for the nomination?

I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but your explanation doesn't paint a very flattering picture of his supporters. Did you mean it to sound the way you wrote it?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
56. many of them are very extreme
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:05 PM
Apr 2019

look at those “progressive” youtube channels, influencers, etc. I have friends like that, who didnt vote for clinton last time (didnt vote for trump either). It is far more common that DU wants to admit. Lots of those people won’t even admit that they didnt vote for Clinton. And to this day they feel they were right cause now we can have real change. Bernicrats are the most extreme people in dem party constituency. Their purity tests are beyond appalling. If Biden wins, he’ll destroy both trumpism and BS. Trump could never happen w/o BS.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
57. ...
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:08 PM
Apr 2019

Thanks for the follow-up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
58. by the way if biden wins, warren will be his vp
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:12 PM
Apr 2019

he already considered her in 2016 as top choice for vp when contemplating a run so it is all but certain. In 2020, that will be a smart move as some bernie supporters like warren too and will vote for the ticket. As a former republican she will attract women gop voters and independents.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
60. There are many possible configurations that I'd be absolutely thrilled with!
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:15 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ecstatic

(32,720 posts)
63. That's not a good enough standard. It should be to drop out when it's clear you won't acquire the
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:33 PM
Apr 2019

delegates needed to win, and then to support the process and the eventual nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
79. Why not just use the standard Hillary invoked in her run against Obama?
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 03:51 PM
Apr 2019

I thought that took her into June 2008, despite not having a viable path forward. In any case, I assume most would agree, whatever standard Hillary employed, should be viewed as a reasonable standard.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

mvd

(65,178 posts)
65. Thanks for the thread, Uncle Joe
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:49 PM
Apr 2019

Sometimes I think Bernie gets misinterpreted, and this thread helps show how badly he wants Trump gone - as the rest of us do.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
70. Interesting that a signed pledge is considered neccessary now, rather than being assumed
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 12:27 PM
Apr 2019

to be a baseline ethical characteristic of all the Democratic candidates.

Like a restaurant that proudly states that they signed a local restaurant pledge to never knowingly serve tainted food.







If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
74. I'm not allowed to contrast his actions today with those in 2016
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 02:56 PM
Apr 2019

so I won't...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Uncle Joe

(58,378 posts)
75. And I'm not allowed to rebut your potential contrast with 2016 if you did
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 03:03 PM
Apr 2019

so I won't either.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
76. Oh don't let that stop you
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 03:05 PM
Apr 2019

you don't have the self-appointed alert cops hanging on YOUR every post...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Uncle Joe

(58,378 posts)
77. That would be funny
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 03:08 PM
Apr 2019

if it wasn't so sad.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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