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Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

ancianita

(36,128 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:12 PM Apr 2019

Chill out! Here's what Joe WON'T do:

Joe won't hire Big Corp CEO's to head his cabinet.

He won't do one damn thing in Trump's budget.

Joe WON'T...

Cut funds to EPA programs to clean up water sources.
-- cut LIHEAP, that will cause 5.7 million low-income residents to lose assistance with their heating bills and about 673,000 to lose cooling assistance
-- defund Medicaid by sending letters to your governor
-- slash federal funding for farm subsidies and other safety net programs for agricultural producers
-- decrease in funding to the U.S. Department of Agriculture by 15 percent
-- break up and break down the USDA

-- cut to crop insurance $26 billion in a program used by growers of more than 100 crops
-- raise housing payments for new homebuyers by about $500 in 2017.
-- cut taxes on the wealthy that help fund the Affordable Care Act, or ACA.
-- cut his own taxes by millions of dollars while taking health insurance from tens of millions of Americans.
-- make it harder for veterans to find jobs with a federal hiring freeze.


-- Cut to devastate rural America;
-- eliminate community service jobs for 18,000 senior citizens living in rural areas;
-- eliminate critical support for airline connections serving 175 small and rural communities.
-- Slash job training programs and worker wage and safety enforcement. President Trump’s proposed fiscal year 2018 budget could result in 2.7 million adults and youths losing access to job training and employment services in 2018.
-- Cut transportation spending to reduce roadway congestion that reduces economic productivity;

-- eliminate the New Starts program within the Federal Transit Administration, which funds Rail and bus rapid transit projects that help reduce roadway congestion and air pollution
-- cut housing and community support programs by $6.7 billion
-- Cut investor protection by making it harder for the Securities and Exchange Commission, or SEC, to hold Wall Street accountable.
-- cut programs that help support and encourage small business development.
-- leaving 23,000 calls for help unanswered from disaster-struck Americans by eliminating the Corporation for National and Community Service,

-- eliminate AmeriCorps, a vital service program that mobilizes volunteers to aid with disaster
-- slash the WIC program
-- Eliminate HOME Investment Partnerships Program that has helped more that 1.2 million families gain access to safe and affordable housing.

Don't get me started... !

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)
2. Joe is better than Trump
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:16 PM
Apr 2019

But is he better than the other Democrats?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ancianita

(36,128 posts)
3. You go first. Tell me why he isn't.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:17 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)
4. He's your candidate
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:22 PM
Apr 2019

Is he better than the alternatives?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ancianita

(36,128 posts)
6. Inslee is my primary candidate. However. I know that in the primary debates, Joe will not put
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:43 PM
Apr 2019

down his fellow Democrats.

And I don't see "alternatives." Some candidates are better than others in experience and know-how. Right now I see Inslee as carrying the best policy argument. Deal with climate change through a national manhattan-style project and a lot of other "issues" about jobs, infrastructure and the general economy get better, if not solved.

As the nominee, Joe can make the dynamic speeches Obama did.

Joe knows how to stump with all the best people candidates that we wanted, and who will explain why they endorse him.

Biden is a uniter in seeing our fellow Democratic candidates as the best people.

I'm sure he will put most of them in his cabinet and key positions.

I'm for Biden because he's got the governance chops over them all.

He's got international trust, visibility and support.

Biden will put Inslee in his cabinet, where a governor of model legislation can really scale up his state's climate change programs. He appoint each of our candidates to get shit down in powerful cabinet positions in a way they can't accomplish through Congress.

Democrats will show the know-how to implement a progressive new government for ALL the people. AND the Constitution.

For all these reasons, there is no alternative.

The whole Democratic candidacy is the alternative.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
5. Still don't know what he wants to do. Does he support the Green New Deal
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:40 PM
Apr 2019

I'm leery of all the baggage he carries. Plus, what are his plans to get rid of the fossil fuel's stranglehold on the country? Or draining the swamp? Joe's got a lot of catching up to do with the other candidates as far as revealing his agenda. Not enough just to be likable. There are a lot of assumptions in this "what he won't do" post but I assume this is what all of our candidates won't do. Hours after Joe's announcement He was to meet with Comcast execs and other corporate donors for a fundraiser. So take heed, please. I have so many questions for Joe and others but love all our candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

ancianita

(36,128 posts)
7. Give him time. Baggage? Swamp? Go look for your answers. You'll see.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:45 PM
Apr 2019

Listen to his upcoming campaign speeches. He's no slouch for detail.

Just give him some more time.

Running for president is a world away from what he did under Obama. And that's one reason he didn't ask for Obama's endorsement.

A better Biden world is coming.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Skya Rhen

(2,701 posts)
13. Joe introduced Congress's first ever Climate Bill in 1986 - so this should provide some insight
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:29 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,631 posts)
16. No...he supports actually something that can be passed in Congress. But he
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 06:46 AM
Apr 2019

Introduced a bill years ago...maybe in the late 80's. He had always been an end environmentalist. He supported for college before Sanders with a way to pay for it and he can win in PA...send Trump home.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
8. My hope of what he DOES do
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:52 PM
Apr 2019

is take a woman running mate if he wins the primary.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ancianita

(36,128 posts)
9. Me, too! Me, too! I'm for Harris or Warren. More for Harris. But we also need them in the Senate.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:54 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
10. Warren is my first choice and Harris is my second.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:00 PM
Apr 2019

but any woman would be good. Whoever does not win the primary needs to be put in the other most top positions available in the new administration.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ancianita

(36,128 posts)
11. Or back to the Senate, where we need the numbers, yes?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:00 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
12. Yes.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:08 PM
Apr 2019

We simply need all of them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Celerity

(43,462 posts)
15. Warren will probably not do it. Too much antipathy between the two, going back around 20 years.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 04:54 AM
Apr 2019

She also doesn't expand the map all that much for Biden, as it isn't like he is going to lose New England without her.


Inside Biden and Warren's Yearslong Feud

He sided with the banks in Congress. She was a crusading law professor on the make. In 2020, are we about to get a rematch?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/03/12/biden-vs-warren-2020-democratic-primaries-bankruptcy-bill-225728

On a February morning in 2005 in a hearing room in the Dirksen Senate Office Building, Joe Biden confronted Elizabeth Warren over a subject they’d been feuding over for years: the country’s bankruptcy laws. Biden, then a senator from Delaware, was one of the strongest backers of a bill meant to address the skyrocketing rate at which Americans were filing for bankruptcy. Warren, at the time a Harvard law professor, had been fighting to kill the same legislation for seven years. She had castigated Biden, accusing him of trying “to sell out women” by pushing for earlier versions of the bill. Now, with the legislation nearing a vote, Biden publicly grappled with Warren face to face.

Warren, Biden allowed, had made “a very compelling and mildly demagogic argument” about why the bill would hurt people who needed to file for bankruptcy because of medical debt or credit card bills they couldn’t pay. But Biden had what he called a “philosophic question,” according to the Congressional Record’s transcript of the hearing that day: Who was responsible? Were the rising number of people who filed for bankruptcy each year taking advantage of their creditors by trying to escape their debts? Or were credit card companies and other lenders taking advantage of an increasingly squeezed middle class?

Warren blamed the lenders. Many credit card companies charged so much in fees and interest that they weren’t losing money when some of their customers went bankrupt, she said. “That is, they have squeezed enough out of these families in interest and fees and payments that never paid down principal,” Warren said.

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Warren and Sanders pounce as Biden enters the race

https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/25/politics/warren-sanders-biden/index.html


Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts welcomed the former vice president to the 2020 Democratic primary on Thursday by reminding voters of their old clashes over the nation's bankruptcy laws.

"I got in that fight because (families) just didn't have anyone and Joe Biden was on the side of the credit card companies," Warren said after being asked about the issue following a rally in Iowa. "It's all a matter of public record."

The nearly two-decade-old Warren-Biden feud is, indeed, well documented. Warren has, in multiple interviews and op-eds, criticized Biden, during his time in the Senate, over his role in moving along legislation she believed would benefit big banks at the expense of working and middle-class Americans.

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,446 posts)
14. Well Done, ancianita!
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 04:32 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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