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Justice Democrats are concerned that Joe Biden will divide the Democratic Party (Original Post) lapucelle Apr 2019 OP
Who is surprised by this? Gothmog Apr 2019 #1
Pot-Kettle paradigm BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #2
+1 nt brer cat Apr 2019 #34
her tweet was pretty divisive.. samnsara Apr 2019 #3
+1 LongtimeAZDem Apr 2019 #17
Oh please . . . Iliyah Apr 2019 #4
We saw it beginning a few weeks ago when he started hinting that he was going to run... George II Apr 2019 #9
LMAO! radical noodle Apr 2019 #5
Biden will get the same treatment that Hillary got leftofcool Apr 2019 #6
I see. So, they aren't doing that, those Justice Democrats? MineralMan Apr 2019 #7
Agreed. No way will Biden divide this party no matter what oppo says or does. ancianita Apr 2019 #27
Say what? The vast majority of Democrats are "centrists", should we choose a candidate.... George II Apr 2019 #8
Sorry to disagree watoos Apr 2019 #13
THIS!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #20
Most of the candidates sponsored by Bernie and Justice Democrats BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #21
I am afraid you are mistaken, the democratic party is way more center than it is way more leftist beachbum bob Apr 2019 #30
Well said. n/t mia Apr 2019 #37
Yes, very well said peggysue2 Apr 2019 #42
The midterms show clearly we are not the majority. Moderates took back the House. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #32
Most of the left candidates lost in 2018, thankfully many were in primaries and the... George II Apr 2019 #36
May I ask, as a Democrat, when did "Justice Democrats" take over? comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #10
Atilla the Hun wouldn't divide us if he got the nod. Well, you know what I mean. LOL. n/t monmouth4 Apr 2019 #11
"Justice Democrats" / russian / cricist actors ? stonecutter357 Apr 2019 #12
Oh dear PatSeg Apr 2019 #14
Unless a poster clearly indicates otherwise, I assume they agree with anything Atticus Apr 2019 #15
Did that twitter person mean "Just This Democrat"? Deb Apr 2019 #16
Nate Silver had the perfect, fact-based response: highplainsdem Apr 2019 #18
I daresay most Democrats have never heard of "Justice Democrats." Sounds like bot farm lingo. ancianita Apr 2019 #28
Exactly, only SEVEN of their candidates won in November..... George II Apr 2019 #39
Then, please, by all means ... brandnewday2009 Apr 2019 #19
The really frightening thing about Justice Democrats BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #22
Russia perhaps?? NYMinute Apr 2019 #24
The people who are divisive are usually the extremist supporters on either end of the spectrum mtnsnake Apr 2019 #23
This is going to make several people marginally for Bernie NYMinute Apr 2019 #25
Who are Justice Democrats? PeeJ52 Apr 2019 #26
OK... I found out... PeeJ52 Apr 2019 #29
That is hilarious....considering their divisive behavior in the last election. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #31
Bernie Sanders is divisive - not Joe donkeypoofed Apr 2019 #33
lol sounds like Justice Democrats are the ones who want to divide the party? Drunken Irishman Apr 2019 #35
Oh my! mcar Apr 2019 #38
Oh good grief! CrispyQ Apr 2019 #40
... SidDithers Apr 2019 #41
Pot meet kettle BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #43
Not surprised. redstatebluegirl Apr 2019 #44
 

Gothmog

(145,433 posts)
1. Who is surprised by this?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:30 AM
Apr 2019

This group has no credibility with me

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

samnsara

(17,625 posts)
3. her tweet was pretty divisive..
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:31 AM
Apr 2019

...and i told her so..

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
4. Oh please . . .
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:31 AM
Apr 2019

look in the mirror first. 3 . . 2 . . 1

They are going after him and other candidates they feel threatened by.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
9. We saw it beginning a few weeks ago when he started hinting that he was going to run...
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:38 AM
Apr 2019

...it intensified and now they're full bore on ahem, dare I say it, "dividing the party".

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

radical noodle

(8,009 posts)
5. LMAO!
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:32 AM
Apr 2019

That's rich. Watch now as Biden gets the Hillary treatment from them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
6. Biden will get the same treatment that Hillary got
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:34 AM
Apr 2019

So will the rest of the candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,321 posts)
7. I see. So, they aren't doing that, those Justice Democrats?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:34 AM
Apr 2019

I guess I see this a different way. I see Joe Biden as a uniting force, not a dividing one. I think everyone will begin to see it that way as he begins his campaign in earnest.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ancianita

(36,128 posts)
27. Agreed. No way will Biden divide this party no matter what oppo says or does.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:36 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. Say what? The vast majority of Democrats are "centrists", should we choose a candidate....
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:37 AM
Apr 2019

....who only seeks to satisfy a small minority of the Democratic Party?

Does Ms. Trudo think that tweets like this are NOT going to "divide the party"?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
13. Sorry to disagree
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:48 AM
Apr 2019

but I am in the majority of not just the Democratic party but of the nation in general, I am an FDR Democrat.

It's why we won a blue tsunami in 2018 because we went back to our roots. I have no intention of moving to the right. I will gladly vote for our nominee but the majority of our members are not centrist, we did not win in 2018 by moving to the right.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
20. THIS!!
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:17 AM
Apr 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
21. Most of the candidates sponsored by Bernie and Justice Democrats
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:25 AM
Apr 2019

lost.

The blue tsunami was fought in swing districts and CENTRIST Democrats won those seats.

It is easy to win in Bronx - not so easy in California's orange county for example.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
30. I am afraid you are mistaken, the democratic party is way more center than it is way more leftist
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:41 AM
Apr 2019

and the only pathway for a win in 2020 is to get the white working class vote back to democrats in PA, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, Missouri, and Biden can and will do that because he doesn't have to talk about free handouts or giveaways...a clear losing message to those who are working. He can talk about expanding Obama's education dept student loan programs in forgiveness when working particular jobs and areas of the country, Biden can dismiss the repatriation nonsense and talk about Obama's equal rights policies and anti-discrimination polices He can directly attack trump and stay clear of the fight with his challengers. Biden has national name recognition and is the clear front runner from here to primary season and beyond

I live right in the middle of working class america and they will come out for Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(10,836 posts)
42. Yes, very well said
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:03 PM
Apr 2019

Joe Biden can put together a winning coalition for 2020 which includes working-class voters who were bamboozled by the Trumpster. Biden's appeal is far wider than other candidates because he can talk to all the issues you mentioned while rewriting the narrative. We are fighting for the soul of this country, for the sustainability of the Republic and the Rule of Law without which no progress or progressive policies are possible. Working-class voters who are reachable are not the goons or the Neo-Nazis or the white nationalists who marched in Charlottesville, those who would ultimately strip everyone of their rights and freedoms. Even their lives.

More importantly, Joe Biden can win in the General. And this time 'round? Winning is everything.





If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,625 posts)
32. The midterms show clearly we are not the majority. Moderates took back the House.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:43 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
36. Most of the left candidates lost in 2018, thankfully many were in primaries and the...
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:13 AM
Apr 2019

...more moderate Democrat wound up winning the general election.

Justice Democrats and their endorsed candidates were almost non-existent in our blue tsunami in 2018. They endorsed 76 candidates, only 7 (9%) were elected. Of those seven who won, three were already incumbents and one ran unopposed in her district.

Our blue tsunami was mostly composed of moderate/centrist candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,169 posts)
10. May I ask, as a Democrat, when did "Justice Democrats" take over?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:40 AM
Apr 2019

Nobody elected Cenk or TYT or OR to represent the Democratic Party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

monmouth4

(9,709 posts)
11. Atilla the Hun wouldn't divide us if he got the nod. Well, you know what I mean. LOL. n/t
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:43 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

stonecutter357

(12,697 posts)
12. "Justice Democrats" / russian / cricist actors ?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:44 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PatSeg

(47,549 posts)
14. Oh dear
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:52 AM
Apr 2019

These people are going to annoy the crap out of me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
15. Unless a poster clearly indicates otherwise, I assume they agree with anything
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:54 AM
Apr 2019

they retweet or quote in their post.

This practice---directing us to what someone else said, without comment or explanation---is too often the coward's choice.

If the quote is well-received, the poster takes credit for it.

If the quote is criticized, they're all "Oh, that wasn't ME!"

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Deb

(3,742 posts)
16. Did that twitter person mean "Just This Democrat"?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:54 AM
Apr 2019

what Dem doesn't want justice

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

highplainsdem

(49,015 posts)
18. Nate Silver had the perfect, fact-based response:
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:58 AM
Apr 2019




It's probably worth noting that while this group, Justice Democrats, calls Biden "out-of-touch" with the "center of energy" in the Democratic Party, only 26 of the 79 candidates it endorsed last year won their primaries, and only 7 of those went on to win the general election.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ancianita

(36,128 posts)
28. I daresay most Democrats have never heard of "Justice Democrats." Sounds like bot farm lingo.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:39 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
39. Exactly, only SEVEN of their candidates won in November.....
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:27 AM
Apr 2019

.....he says they endorsed 79, I counted 76, but whatever - less than one in ten were elected.

They're not the future of the Democratic Party!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brandnewday2009

(287 posts)
19. Then, please, by all means ...
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:58 AM
Apr 2019

... vote for the Rump. Or don't vote. No one really cares for your shit anymore. So please, STFU. Thanks!

And... GO JOE!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
22. The really frightening thing about Justice Democrats
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:27 AM
Apr 2019

is that no one knows where their money comes from and where it goes. There is very little transparency.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
23. The people who are divisive are usually the extremist supporters on either end of the spectrum
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:27 AM
Apr 2019

Biden certainly isn't an extremist, and I highly doubt that his supporters are extremists either.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
25. This is going to make several people marginally for Bernie
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:32 AM
Apr 2019

to come home to the party.

Most Democrats don't want to see that same movie again. It was terrible the first time with a tragic ending.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
26. Who are Justice Democrats?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:35 AM
Apr 2019

Never heard of them...

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

PeeJ52

(1,588 posts)
29. OK... I found out...
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:40 AM
Apr 2019

A good Democrat doesn't oppose a candidate. A good Democrat lifts up their candidate and supports the ultimate candidate chosen by their party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,625 posts)
31. That is hilarious....considering their divisive behavior in the last election.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:41 AM
Apr 2019

Their gop donors must have given them their marching orders...attack Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

donkeypoofed

(2,187 posts)
33. Bernie Sanders is divisive - not Joe
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:48 AM
Apr 2019

The only issue with Joe is the age issue. But he's not really the divisive rod that Sanders is. That being said, I wish both these old white guys would step aside and let the newer younger Democrats take care of business. Why would they want to be out thru an exhausting ringer at their age? I sure wouldn't.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
35. lol sounds like Justice Democrats are the ones who want to divide the party?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:12 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CrispyQ

(36,489 posts)
40. Oh good grief!
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:28 AM
Apr 2019

I think Biden could be the one dem who could divide the republican party. There have to be lots of repubs who are appalled at what the GOP has become & Biden is a known factor & has a reassuring presence about him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
44. Not surprised.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:45 PM
Apr 2019

I honestly don't care what the justice democrats think. I want to beat 45, and I know we can't do it with litmus tests.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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