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demmiblue

(36,873 posts)
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:38 AM Apr 2019

Comcast executive to host Joe Biden fundraiser

Comcast's chief lobbyist David Cohen and his wife will be hosting a fundraiser for former Vice President Joe Biden Thursday, on the day he is expected to announce his third candidacy for the presidency.

Several of the vice president's supporters will also be attending the fundraiser, including Pennsylvania Sen. Bob Casey, former Gov. Ed Rendell and former Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter, as well as several members of Congress, mostly representing Pennsylvania. They include Reps. Brendan Boyle, Matt Cartwright, Madeleine Dean, Dwight Evans, Chrissy Houlahan, Mary Gay Scanlon, and Rep. Lisa Blunt Manchester, of Delaware.

Unlike many of his competitors, Biden is courting some of the party's traditional high-dollar donors to support his campaign, which is evident from the invitation to the fundraiser, obtained by CBS Philadelphia. The Cohens, along with cohosts who include top lobbyists and lawyers in Pennsylvania, are seeking donations of at least $2,800 to attend the fundraiser, though there is also a "young professional" donation level of $250 included on the invitation.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/comcast-executive-to-host-joe-biden-fundraiser/

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Comcast executive to host Joe Biden fundraiser (Original Post) demmiblue Apr 2019 OP
Thanks for posting... good to know. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #1
Post removed Post removed Apr 2019 #6
One of the reasons Joe is down my list JackInGreen Apr 2019 #2
"Bullshit" like what? At least he won't have 84% of of his contributions "unitemized", we'll know.. George II Apr 2019 #5
One of his hometown papers is already asking questions. lapucelle Apr 2019 #51
Great find, lapucelle! Looks like a hometown paper R B Garr Apr 2019 #70
This is the real news! Clean up those FEC flags--tell us where R B Garr Apr 2019 #69
and at least Biden's campaign doesn't hire three people to high positions who voted for Jill Stein, still_one Apr 2019 #77
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2019 #7
Not only can Biden express his views on Net Neutrality BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #14
And the concerns of WOC without falling back to a series of talking points. George II Apr 2019 #17
Yeah I was embarrassed by this. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #27
I forget who coined the phrase, but that was cringe worthy. George II Apr 2019 #28
Like watching an old I love Lucy rerun! Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #46
It's time for Democrats to get REAL and wipe that bullshit pie out your eye. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #9
I would like to know who Sanders overseas donations were from. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #41
BS like what? Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #58
but Comcast???? and means testing for ss and medicare?? delisen Apr 2019 #60
Means testing is one of the Democratic Party tweaks to saving SS. Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #62
It's not Comcast. Cohen's doing this in his individual capacity StarfishSaver Apr 2019 #93
The thing is a big corporation is neither hosting it nor footing the bill for it. George II Apr 2019 #89
Yep. My least favorite of them all. nt m-lekktor Apr 2019 #61
That's OK...as long as he's on the list !!!! nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #68
Good for you, Joe. murielm99 Apr 2019 #3
We are going to need all the help we can get.. from all corners.. Peacetrain Apr 2019 #4
Union-busting law firm chairman Steven Cozen is on the hosting committee too. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #8
Amazing isn't it?!?!...but Bernie released his taxes 5 minutes after he said he would!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #20
What does BS's tax returns have to do with a Biden fundraiser? George II Apr 2019 #22
5 minutes plus three years. ehrnst Apr 2019 #55
So? Remember, no one, NO ONE, can contribute more than $2800. At least they'll be up front... George II Apr 2019 #21
So I think it's shitty when Democrats accept help from union-busters. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #23
But when all the dust settles, we'll know from whom most of his contributions come from.... George II Apr 2019 #26
I think it is shitty that United exists but until the day we get rid of it, our candidates need Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #29
Thats 1 way to describe it. I'm guessin Joe will do the right thing & return the donation. He should InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #44
And he is a horrible person? You know this guy? Everybody is evil that works there? Are there UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #63
When it comes to law firm's that are dedicated to busting unions, yeah, WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #65
Well if these shitty people are giving money it may as well be to us. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #66
That is certainly one way to look at it. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2019 #67
Reminiscent of the attacks on Obama's first Attorney General, Eric Holder.... George II Apr 2019 #81
GET THAT MONEY HONEY. NT UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #10
Yup, it's ALL about the money... follow the trail!! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #42
+1 Go Vols Apr 2019 #45
+2 shanny Apr 2019 #53
Joe refuses to battle Trump with one hand tied behind his back. oasis Apr 2019 #11
I agree . We can't get rid of United if we don't win. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #31
Show of force in PA BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #12
Don't forget Blue Cross CEO as well. Not a good look. Nanjeanne Apr 2019 #13
Remember, no one can give more than $2800 (limit was recently raised from $2700) and.... George II Apr 2019 #18
I don't care. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #32
Terrible look... it's amazing how some can turn a blind eye to dirty money in politics. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #43
Biden is more traditional on healthcare. delisen Apr 2019 #71
Money is ammunition. Take it and use it. dalton99a Apr 2019 #15
Guess that's one way to rationalize cozying up to big money interests... InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #25
Yeah well...Sanders has money but still won't win a primary. I have no issue with contributions Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #33
That's fine, I respect your position... but, it won't fly with the Democratic base, sorry. InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #35
The Democratic base wants to win. I am boots on the ground, voting,working in every Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #38
May the best person win! Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #39
I would respectfully suggest that Sanders supporters stay away from this issue. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #40
Nor for yours. Cuthbert Allgood Apr 2019 #59
Followed his lead and "refused to accept other questionable campaign donations"? Sanders had.... George II Apr 2019 #37
The money will be put to good use BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #48
I wouldn't think Joe would use "big money" to divide the Democratic Party InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #49
You frame it however you want BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #50
It's clear who is trying to divide the party with R B Garr Apr 2019 #73
Tell that to the many leading Democratic candidates who are rejecting "big money" campaign donations InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #74
Who cares about the BS games. No more phony talking R B Garr Apr 2019 #75
Glad you put that in quotes. George II Apr 2019 #88
From what I am observing there seems to be one campaign which is more involved in doing that then still_one Apr 2019 #80
No, Bernie's REJECTED "big money" interests & several of his fellow Democrats have followed his lead InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #82
That wasn't what I was addressing regarding divisonary issues still_one Apr 2019 #86
Guess that's one way to avoid responding -attack a strawman... and you threw in a false equivalence. ehrnst Apr 2019 #54
I don't have a problem with this. Money is needed ecstatic Apr 2019 #16
You hit the nail on the head. FEC regulations should be changed to make ALL contributions... George II Apr 2019 #19
Wow! Where are you able to see that information? nt ecstatic Apr 2019 #91
It's all here: George II Apr 2019 #92
Thank you. One more thing--does it show individual names and ecstatic Apr 2019 #100
They show the name, address, occupation, and most of the time employer of all the itemized.... George II Apr 2019 #101
Thank you for the info and explanation! I think I will take a look after all. ecstatic Apr 2019 #102
Absoltuely. Also, when you go into a street fight, you don't tie one arm behind your back. still_one Apr 2019 #83
I know a deep-pockets funder who has hosted VP Biden in her home... brooklynite Apr 2019 #24
Cool story. cwydro Apr 2019 #30
Well others will step-up. And as he continues to be the front runner he will Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #36
no offense, what does that mean? Are you implying she is supporting another candidate? If so, I still_one Apr 2019 #84
Oh boy. Here we go. KPN Apr 2019 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Apr 2019 #47
I am not stupid, I have been around for a while in politics over 40 years. redstatebluegirl Apr 2019 #52
Folks need to UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #64
I doubt that people Blue_true Apr 2019 #90
It's scheduled for Wednesday anytime between 8:00 AM 2:00 PM Jose Garcia Apr 2019 #56
Comcast HDQTRS is in Pennsylvania. PA is going to be a big state for Biden. nt Honeycombe8 Apr 2019 #57
Hey, at least we know who's running the country. jalan48 Apr 2019 #72
:-) CentralMass Apr 2019 #76
You know what? I don't care any more. All that David vs. Goliath stuff is great for talking points, The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #78
I agree. As far as I am concerned any candidate who needs to do it should do it. Until we have still_one Apr 2019 #85
I don't care if any candidate, including Bernie, gets money from Goldman Fucking Sachs. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #98
same here. Maybe that will change one day. but the stakes are too damn high for 2020, and still_one Apr 2019 #99
There goes the neighborhood. CentralMass Apr 2019 #79
Well, that's sure going to fire up the youth vote Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #87
We can't speak for youth emmaverybo Apr 2019 #94
And it is even more patronizing to assume Youth will automatically vote for Biden Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #95
Who is assuming that? emmaverybo Apr 2019 #96
The youth vote has been historically unreliable. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #97
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
1. Thanks for posting... good to know.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 05:45 AM
Apr 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #1)

 

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
2. One of the reasons Joe is down my list
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:01 AM
Apr 2019

Is bullshit like that.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
5. "Bullshit" like what? At least he won't have 84% of of his contributions "unitemized", we'll know..
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:55 AM
Apr 2019

Last edited Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:42 AM - Edit history (1)

...where it all comes from.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

R B Garr

(16,966 posts)
70. Great find, lapucelle! Looks like a hometown paper
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:46 PM
Apr 2019

isn’t buying the distractions anymore. Their comments about Our Revolution are spot on.

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Joe Biden
 

R B Garr

(16,966 posts)
69. This is the real news! Clean up those FEC flags--tell us where
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:44 PM
Apr 2019

the money came from. It’s about time!

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Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,313 posts)
77. and at least Biden's campaign doesn't hire three people to high positions who voted for Jill Stein,
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:11 PM
Apr 2019

and encouraged others to do so likewise

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Joe Biden

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BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
14. Not only can Biden express his views on Net Neutrality
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:14 AM
Apr 2019

he will be able to answer "How to address white supremacist violence" succinctly and cogently.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
17. And the concerns of WOC without falling back to a series of talking points.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:25 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,631 posts)
27. Yeah I was embarrassed by this.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:31 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
28. I forget who coined the phrase, but that was cringe worthy.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:34 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,631 posts)
46. Like watching an old I love Lucy rerun!
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:08 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
9. It's time for Democrats to get REAL and wipe that bullshit pie out your eye. nt
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:44 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,631 posts)
41. I would like to know who Sanders overseas donations were from.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:50 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
58. BS like what?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:29 PM
Apr 2019

A candidate is having a fundraiser in what is a big state for him, so one of the big corporations headquartered in that state hosts it and foots the bill? Sounds good to me.

I suppose you're saying Democrats are supposed to hate all corporations?

I don't so think so. What I hate is BEHAVIOR. Not people or entities.

But it is true that Biden is more corporate friendly than some of the others. One of the reasons for that is he hails from Delaware, the king of the incorporation states.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

delisen

(6,044 posts)
60. but Comcast???? and means testing for ss and medicare??
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:18 PM
Apr 2019

It's early. Biden has lots of time to refine.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
62. Means testing is one of the Democratic Party tweaks to saving SS.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:29 PM
Apr 2019

Haven't heard about it re Medicare. The devil would be in the details. Yeah, I don't like the idea of it, either. I've read that it would change it to more of a welfare-type program, rather than a social program. We know what happens to welfare type programs in this country.

Like you say, it's early. It's not up to a President to tweak SS and Medicare, anyway. He'll go along with what the majority of Democrats in Congress decide, probably. Altho he can drive the conversation and push an agenda.

I find nothing unusual in Comcast hosting a big fundraiser in PA, since it's headquartered there and presumably a big employer there.

Democrats need donations by corporations, too, so there's also that. If we don't get big donations, we're at a disadvantage. Let's see where most of his funds come from. Even then, it's not his fault if the rank and file choose to support more progressive candidates.

I'm not sure how progressive or moderate he is. I'll see how the debates go.

The main thing for me is beating Trump. All the candidates are Democrats and support Democratic ideals and the party platform.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
93. It's not Comcast. Cohen's doing this in his individual capacity
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:30 PM
Apr 2019

I've worked with him and he's not a bad person. Among other things, he's very supportive of minority communities and organizations.

Support from corporate leaders is not, in and of itself, a bad thing.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
89. The thing is a big corporation is neither hosting it nor footing the bill for it.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:42 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
61. Yep. My least favorite of them all. nt
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:20 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
68. That's OK...as long as he's on the list !!!! nt
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:39 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

murielm99

(30,754 posts)
3. Good for you, Joe.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:32 AM
Apr 2019

You may be our next President yet.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Peacetrain

(22,877 posts)
4. We are going to need all the help we can get.. from all corners..
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:41 AM
Apr 2019

just a fact

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,382 posts)
8. Union-busting law firm chairman Steven Cozen is on the hosting committee too.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:33 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
20. Amazing isn't it?!?!...but Bernie released his taxes 5 minutes after he said he would!!
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:57 AM
Apr 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
22. What does BS's tax returns have to do with a Biden fundraiser?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:17 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
55. 5 minutes plus three years.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:01 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
21. So? Remember, no one, NO ONE, can contribute more than $2800. At least they'll be up front...
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:16 AM
Apr 2019

...with their contributions.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,382 posts)
23. So I think it's shitty when Democrats accept help from union-busters.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:21 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
26. But when all the dust settles, we'll know from whom most of his contributions come from....
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:31 AM
Apr 2019

....he won't have 84% of his money categorized as "unitemized", i.e., who knows where it came from.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,631 posts)
29. I think it is shitty that United exists but until the day we get rid of it, our candidates need
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:34 AM
Apr 2019

money. Biden was the poorest Senator he did not sell influence. We have to stop Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
44. Thats 1 way to describe it. I'm guessin Joe will do the right thing & return the donation. He should
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:01 PM
Apr 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
63. And he is a horrible person? You know this guy? Everybody is evil that works there? Are there
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:29 PM
Apr 2019

any good folks employed there? The one track mind shit is maddening.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,382 posts)
65. When it comes to law firm's that are dedicated to busting unions, yeah,
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:33 PM
Apr 2019

I think everyone who works there is shitty.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
66. Well if these shitty people are giving money it may as well be to us. nt
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:34 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,382 posts)
67. That is certainly one way to look at it.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:37 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
81. Reminiscent of the attacks on Obama's first Attorney General, Eric Holder....
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:15 PM
Apr 2019

....when he went to work after leaving the administration.

It also reminds me of the attacks on Sharice Davids because of the law firm she worked for, even though her specialty was helping the poor and native Americans.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
42. Yup, it's ALL about the money... follow the trail!!
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:54 AM
Apr 2019

Last edited Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:39 PM - Edit history (1)


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

oasis

(49,395 posts)
11. Joe refuses to battle Trump with one hand tied behind his back.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:55 AM
Apr 2019

Many purists who frowned on big money in politics couldn't bring themselves to vote for Hillary in the 2016 General Election. Now Gorsuch and Kavanaugh and Citizens United are here to stay.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,631 posts)
31. I agree . We can't get rid of United if we don't win.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:35 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
12. Show of force in PA
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:01 AM
Apr 2019

Biden is already fortifying the strongholds that Hillary lost narrowly.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Nanjeanne

(4,970 posts)
13. Don't forget Blue Cross CEO as well. Not a good look.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:13 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. Remember, no one can give more than $2800 (limit was recently raised from $2700) and....
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:26 AM
Apr 2019

....most of his contributors will be up front about how much they contribute.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
43. Terrible look... it's amazing how some can turn a blind eye to dirty money in politics.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:55 AM
Apr 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

delisen

(6,044 posts)
71. Biden is more traditional on healthcare.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:46 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dalton99a

(81,559 posts)
15. Money is ammunition. Take it and use it.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:34 AM
Apr 2019

We are in a fight for our lives

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
25. Guess that's one way to rationalize cozying up to big money interests...
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:30 AM
Apr 2019

Wonder why Bernie's fellow Democratic candidates have followed his lead in swearing off corporate PAC money and have refused to accept other questionable campaign donations??


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,631 posts)
33. Yeah well...Sanders has money but still won't win a primary. I have no issue with contributions
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:37 AM
Apr 2019

from business.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
35. That's fine, I respect your position... but, it won't fly with the Democratic base, sorry.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:40 AM
Apr 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Demsrule86

(68,631 posts)
38. The Democratic base wants to win. I am boots on the ground, voting,working in every
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:46 AM
Apr 2019

election. I and others like me are the base. People understand you need money to win elections. This sort of thing was devestating in state and midterm elections.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,631 posts)
39. May the best person win!
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:48 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,631 posts)
40. I would respectfully suggest that Sanders supporters stay away from this issue.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:49 AM
Apr 2019

Not a good one for your candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
37. Followed his lead and "refused to accept other questionable campaign donations"? Sanders had....
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:43 AM
Apr 2019

.....about 100,000 contributions flagged by the FEC as improper or, as you say, "questionable", last time around.

He already has 29 contributors who have exceeded the maximum allowable contribution, only two months into the campaign. He's also accepted about 200 contributions from overseas. This is all available on the FEC website.

Who knows what's buried in that 84% of his contributions that are "unitemized"?

Let's hope Biden and our other candidates don't follow that lead.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BannonsLiver

(16,425 posts)
48. The money will be put to good use
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:15 PM
Apr 2019

For starters, it’ll be used to help ensure Bernie is not the nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
49. I wouldn't think Joe would use "big money" to divide the Democratic Party
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:22 PM
Apr 2019

but, I could be wrong... guess we'll soon see.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

BannonsLiver

(16,425 posts)
50. You frame it however you want
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:26 PM
Apr 2019

All I care about are results.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

R B Garr

(16,966 posts)
73. It's clear who is trying to divide the party with
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:51 PM
Apr 2019

“big money” BS. I’m glad to see Democrats aren’t going to take it anymore.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
74. Tell that to the many leading Democratic candidates who are rejecting "big money" campaign donations
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:59 PM
Apr 2019

from interest groups, lobbyists, PACs, etc.


Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

R B Garr

(16,966 posts)
75. Who cares about the BS games. No more phony talking
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:02 PM
Apr 2019

points when there is a lack of accountability and transparency from one campaign in particular. We are not fooled.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
88. Glad you put that in quotes.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:40 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,313 posts)
80. From what I am observing there seems to be one campaign which is more involved in doing that then
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:14 PM
Apr 2019

the others

David Sirota, Nina Turner, and Bbriahna Joy Gray, all who voted for Jill Stein, and encouraged others to do likewise




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
82. No, Bernie's REJECTED "big money" interests & several of his fellow Democrats have followed his lead
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:19 PM
Apr 2019

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Welcome to the revolution!!!
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

still_one

(92,313 posts)
86. That wasn't what I was addressing regarding divisonary issues
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:28 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
54. Guess that's one way to avoid responding -attack a strawman... and you threw in a false equivalence.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 01:58 PM
Apr 2019

A twofer!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ecstatic

(32,720 posts)
16. I don't have a problem with this. Money is needed
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:42 AM
Apr 2019

to win the primaries and the GE. And critics can save the "millions of small donors" nonsense, as we have no idea where that money is really coming from.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
19. You hit the nail on the head. FEC regulations should be changed to make ALL contributions...
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:33 AM
Apr 2019

...itemized.

Plus, it's not millions of small "donors", it's millions of small donations, contributed in a manner to reduce the so-called "average" donation to a predetermined "average".

We have one candidate who already has more than 100 individual contributions from several people. The "average" is only $4.00 per contributION but the average per contributOR is $459! Those aren't "small contributors". There's also a single individual who has given the maximum of $2800, but in only a couple of months has done so by sending in 60 separate contributions. The "average" is $45 but has already hit the annual maximum.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ecstatic

(32,720 posts)
91. Wow! Where are you able to see that information? nt
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:09 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
92. It's all here:
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:25 PM
Apr 2019
https://www.fec.gov/data/committee/C00696948/?cycle=2020

You have to download the csv file for receipts, then do a little sorting (or pivot tables) in Excel. Before I retired I worked with more than 200,000 products as a Marketing Manager, sorting tens or hundreds of thousand records became second nature to me.

There's lots of hidden little nuggets in the candidates' quarterly filings. For example, here are the totals raised and the amount that is unitemized (i.e., unknown where they came from) for the top candidates (we'll have to wait until July to see details of Biden's numbers):

Sanders
$18,186,300.21
$15,282,029.00
84% unitemized

O'Rourke
$9,373,261.40
$5,542,641.00
59% unitemized

Warren
$6,016,435.38
$4,229,724.00
70% unitemized

Harris
$12,040,463.55
$4,420,828.00
37% unitemized

Booker
$5,103,710.09
$805,495.00
16% unitemized

Buttigieg
$7,086,154.62
$4,536,552.00
64% unitemized
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ecstatic

(32,720 posts)
100. Thank you. One more thing--does it show individual names and
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 07:40 PM
Apr 2019

are the people who are making numerous small donations mainly donating to Bernie? I don't think my 32b version of Excel can handle a really large file like that. lol.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
101. They show the name, address, occupation, and most of the time employer of all the itemized....
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 08:05 PM
Apr 2019

.....contributors along with the amount of each contribution and aggregate for the year.

Unfortunately what we don't get is any information about any "unitemized" contributions, which is a flaw in the FEC rules which I think MUST be fixed. I can't be sure, but I believe that Actblue itemizes everything, regardless of the size of the contribution (there are hundreds for candidates of only $1!)

Below, after weeding out the Actblue contributions (they show double), here are the counts. In some cases the number of records can be misleading, that's not an indication of the number of contributors - there are many multiples of contributions by the same people. Also shown are individual contributors. This gives a good idea of the number of multiple contributions (records minus contributors).

O'Rourke - 11500 records, 4900 contributors, 6600 multiples
Gillibrand - 2500 records, 1700 contributors, 800 multiples
Warren - 11100 records, 3100 contributors, 8000 multiples
Buttigieg - 5400 records, 4050 contributors, 1350 multiples
Sanders - 28000 records, 9200 contributors, 18800 multiples

Again, this doesn't include the "unitemized" contributions for which the FEC shows only the aggregate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ecstatic

(32,720 posts)
102. Thank you for the info and explanation! I think I will take a look after all.
Fri Apr 26, 2019, 08:30 PM
Apr 2019

Really curious to see if my name is included. I've never donated more than $300 in 1 transaction.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,313 posts)
83. Absoltuely. Also, when you go into a street fight, you don't tie one arm behind your back.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:20 PM
Apr 2019

especially with the stakes so high for the general election, and as far as I am concerned, I have no problem with any campaign running for the Democratic nomination doing it


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

brooklynite

(94,667 posts)
24. I know a deep-pockets funder who has hosted VP Biden in her home...
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:24 AM
Apr 2019

Don't think they'll be contributing this time.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Demsrule86

(68,631 posts)
36. Well others will step-up. And as he continues to be the front runner he will
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:42 AM
Apr 2019

Be funded in various ways...a mix of small donors and big donors. I have no issue with this. I must say attacking Biden with this sort of thing which is unrefutable because of of its secrecy is unfair and not like your usual informative posts.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,313 posts)
84. no offense, what does that mean? Are you implying she is supporting another candidate? If so, I
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:23 PM
Apr 2019

have no problem with any candidate utilizing such funding, as long as it is done legally of course


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

KPN

(15,647 posts)
34. Oh boy. Here we go.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 11:38 AM
Apr 2019

Side note: not a big fan of Ed Rendell. That's two smudges for Joe despite the fact I like him personally. Probably not going to be among my front-runners but I'll give him some time before saying so.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

 

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
52. I am not stupid, I have been around for a while in politics over 40 years.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 12:33 PM
Apr 2019

It takes a lot of money to run for President. Until this country finds another way to fund elections you have to do this once in a while. Is it perfect absolutely not, is it necessary, I'm afraid that it is in today's world of multimillion dollar media buys, huge campaign staffs and thousands of boots on the ground that are not volunteers.

No I don't like it, but at least he is honest about what he is doing. You cannot fund a national election totally on 26 dollar donations.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
64. Folks need to
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:31 PM
Apr 2019

grow the hell up and get the hell real.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
90. I doubt that people
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:01 PM
Apr 2019

Who are convinced that a person that has been in Congress for close to 29 years and has one key bill as credit, will magically, somehow bring about free college, Medicare for all and high tax rates on the rich, will be growing up politically anytime soon. That is why we need to look at the part of the 43% of registered voters who truly didn't vote in 2016 (as opposed to writing in or voting Stein) and get those people off their asses and to the polls. Trump's disapproval rating being consistently 53-57% says that a lot of those people have real concerns about him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Jose Garcia

(2,601 posts)
56. It's scheduled for Wednesday anytime between 8:00 AM 2:00 PM
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:23 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
57. Comcast HDQTRS is in Pennsylvania. PA is going to be a big state for Biden. nt
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 02:26 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

jalan48

(13,876 posts)
72. Hey, at least we know who's running the country.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 06:48 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,792 posts)
78. You know what? I don't care any more. All that David vs. Goliath stuff is great for talking points,
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:11 PM
Apr 2019

but I don't want to see any of our candidates go into this election without enough money to keep up with and beat Trump and the GOP. This is the way it works. I don't like it but until we have a better way to fund elections, I'm all for taking whatever contributions are offered as long as they are legal and accounted for.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,313 posts)
85. I agree. As far as I am concerned any candidate who needs to do it should do it. Until we have
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:27 PM
Apr 2019

publicly funded elections, it takes money to win elections, that is the harsh reality


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,792 posts)
98. I don't care if any candidate, including Bernie, gets money from Goldman Fucking Sachs.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:40 PM
Apr 2019

Or technically, from its fat cat capitalist employees. The evil corporations mostly support the GOP, but if they want to hedge their bets and throw a few bucks at a Democrat, take their dirty fucking money and use it to buy ads and pay campaign staff and beat Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,313 posts)
99. same here. Maybe that will change one day. but the stakes are too damn high for 2020, and
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:55 PM
Apr 2019

as long as the contributions are legal, I have no problem with any campaign doing it


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
79. There goes the neighborhood.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 07:12 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Fiendish Thingy

(15,646 posts)
87. Well, that's sure going to fire up the youth vote
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 08:35 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
94. We can't speak for youth
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 09:43 PM
Apr 2019

As a whole. It is patronizing and reductive for people to think they know the youth vote, the black vote etc. There is diversity within demographic groups and much more complicated assessments made about a candidate than can be presumed based on prevailing, stereotypical notions about youth, for one, or really any other voters we tend to group as a voting bloc.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Fiendish Thingy

(15,646 posts)
95. And it is even more patronizing to assume Youth will automatically vote for Biden
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:00 PM
Apr 2019

Should he become the nominee.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

emmaverybo

(8,144 posts)
96. Who is assuming that?
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:20 PM
Apr 2019

Neither more nor less patronizing to suggest who “youth” will or will not vote for. So far, a poll suggests college students favor Biden, Sanders, and Trump. We will remain in great flux. No one is a lock.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,792 posts)
97. The youth vote has been historically unreliable.
Thu Apr 25, 2019, 10:36 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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