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standingtall

(2,785 posts)
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 03:54 AM Apr 2019

Why hasn't Beto called for Trump's impeachment

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2018/10/18/beto-orourke-trump-impeachment-sot-texas-town-hall-vpx.cnn

I find it pretty interesting that when he was running against Cruz he said he would vote to impeach Trump. He said that there was already enough there to impeach Trump this was before the Mueller report was out, and now he cannot even give a straightforward opinion on what the house should do.
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Why hasn't Beto called for Trump's impeachment (Original Post) standingtall Apr 2019 OP
probably because he is no longer a member of congress and has not been asked JI7 Apr 2019 #1
He has been asked standingtall Apr 2019 #2
I believe that he is deferring to Madame Speaker Pelosi on this one. TexasTowelie Apr 2019 #3
Calling for impeachment would help him in the primaries standingtall Apr 2019 #4
But as stated, he hasn't read the report. TexasTowelie Apr 2019 #5
Great reply. murielm99 Apr 2019 #6
he was a member of Congress when he was running for Senate. he no longer is and seems to want to JI7 Apr 2019 #7
Presidential candidates have used their position to influence standingtall Apr 2019 #9
impeachment is not about policy. but it's more like a trial. the democrats know what to do JI7 Apr 2019 #10
He also will never call for impeachment simply to gain in polls. He will ONLY do that Indygram Apr 2019 #11
It sounds like it is what he truly believes standingtall Apr 2019 #12
Just because there would be justification doesn't mean it's wise to do Indygram Apr 2019 #13
If turtle refuses to even try it than the last standing formal verdict standingtall Apr 2019 #14
Beto will do and saw what he truly believes after reading the full report Indygram Apr 2019 #15
The country cannot be unified until Trump is out office standingtall Apr 2019 #16
Here is Beto's statement about the Mueller Report a few days ago Indygram Apr 2019 #8
Maybe because he wants to win in 20. Demsrule86 Apr 2019 #17
 

JI7

(89,252 posts)
1. probably because he is no longer a member of congress and has not been asked
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 04:01 AM
Apr 2019

let our democrats who have power over this in congress deal with it.

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standingtall

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2. He has been asked
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 04:06 AM
Apr 2019

and he said he needed to read the full report, and that the decision would be left up to congress. He is running to be the President of the United States the leader of the free world or at least we were before Trump. If someone is running for an office as powerful as the Presidency than they should have the courage to form an opinion on how the house should deal with Trump.

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TexasTowelie

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3. I believe that he is deferring to Madame Speaker Pelosi on this one.
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 04:07 AM
Apr 2019

I also think that is the wise course of action for him. Impeachment proceedings will rally the GOP into protecting Trump. O'Rourke should concentrate on winning the Democratic nomination rather advising on a decision that he doesn't get to make.

Former El Paso Congressman O’Rourke said during his Senate campaign that he would vote to impeach Trump, but seems more recently to have backed away from the idea of attempting to the remove the president. "I think the American people are going to have a chance to decide this at the ballot box in November 2020," he told CBS’s Gayle King in March, "and perhaps that's the best way for us to resolve these outstanding questions.” Whether or not Congress pursues impeachment proceedings however, O’Rourke says he still feels certain “beyond a shadow of a doubt” that Trump is guilty of offenses that merit impeachment.


https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a27217697/2020-candidates-on-impeachment/
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standingtall

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4. Calling for impeachment would help him in the primaries
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 04:12 AM
Apr 2019

He called for Trump to be impeached in Texas and barely lost to Ted Cruz. If he is going to run against Trump he has to win the primaries and he is missing an opportunity to gain some polling momentum by not calling for Trump's impeachment now.

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TexasTowelie

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5. But as stated, he hasn't read the report.
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 04:35 AM
Apr 2019

It would be reckless for him to suggest a course of action without reading the report. It's also important to realize that what may be popular at DU doesn't necessarily translate to the world outside of DU.

A decision to impeach is the modern equivalent of the Iraq War Resolution. I prefer to see a candidate not over-react, particularly when they know that the impeachment of Trump in the House will not result in a conviction in the Senate because we can't get two-thirds of the vote in the Senate.

Beto is also absolutely correct that the best way to get rid of Trump is to win the general election in November 2020. Beto is playing the long game which is better than making impulsive remarks. The campaign is in its infancy and I have no doubt that his poll ratings will reflect his dedication and wisdom. There is no reason why he needs to react any differently.

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JI7

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7. he was a member of Congress when he was running for Senate. he no longer is and seems to want to
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 05:02 AM
Apr 2019

let Congressional democrats deal with it as they think best.

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standingtall

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9. Presidential candidates have used their position to influence
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 05:06 AM
Apr 2019

congressional policies as far back as anyone can remember. Why should impeachment be some type of sacred cow Presidential candidates shouldn't touch?

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JI7

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10. impeachment is not about policy. but it's more like a trial. the democrats know what to do
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 05:08 AM
Apr 2019

the congressional democrats on the committees to deal with this have more expertise in this area. listen to what eric swalwell had to say about this. he isn't coming out for impeachment but not opposed to it either. it's more about doing it right .

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Indygram

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11. He also will never call for impeachment simply to gain in polls. He will ONLY do that
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 05:12 AM
Apr 2019

If it's what he truly believes is the best/right thing to do...and he will explain his position once he has read the report. Beto does NOT poll test or say what is expedient. He says what he honestly believes.

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standingtall

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12. It sounds like it is what he truly believes
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 05:20 AM
Apr 2019

He said impeachment is merited. If he believes it's merited as he stated than he should call for Trump's impeachment. Trump can be impeached acquitted in the senate and still get beat in the general especially by a pro impeachment candidate who can blame the republican senate for failing to convict. There is no reason for him to be afraid to be himself he should stand on his principles the way Elizabeth Warren did.

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Indygram

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13. Just because there would be justification doesn't mean it's wise to do
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 05:32 AM
Apr 2019

Mitch McConnell would control the "trial." He will say that the Senate has "the sole power to try," and then will ignore the norms...again...and refuse to even try at all. Trump will use it as a talking point, energize his base, make Democrats look like they are just picking on him and it will do more harm than good.

The best course of action is actually to investigate the living hell out of the whole dirty crew. This will expose the truth to the people and keep it all right in the House where Pelosi can keep it going for as long as she wants. McConnell has proven over and over again that he will NOT act in the best interest of the country and will protect the orange turd.

I actually don't support impeaching. I support publicly investigating and laying all his secrets out for all to see...but keeping it away from McConnell.

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standingtall

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14. If turtle refuses to even try it than the last standing formal verdict
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 05:40 AM
Apr 2019

will be from the house and the house could even slow walk it until the election is over if they want to. The house can control the narrative. Impeachment proceedings will be much more authoritative than just simply having investigations. Btw Trump and republicans are going to try and spin it as a victory for Trump regardless of what direction the house decides to go in. Which is why I think impeaching him is the best bet and it would be wise for our Presidential candidates to start pushing that narrative.

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Indygram

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15. Beto will do and saw what he truly believes after reading the full report
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 05:48 AM
Apr 2019

He doesn't "poll test" anything, ever. That's part of his appeal. It's also going to be really difficult to unify the country if we don't keep the focus on how Democrats will be better.

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standingtall

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16. The country cannot be unified until Trump is out office
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 05:55 AM
Apr 2019

and as many republicans as possible who enabled him go down with him. I don't just want a candidate who can beat Trump. I want somebody who can route Trump by about 8 to 10 points. I would've said a higher number, but I think 8 to 10 is about the most we could hope for in today's climate. Shameful that even %1 of this country approves of Trump.

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Indygram

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8. Here is Beto's statement about the Mueller Report a few days ago
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 05:03 AM
Apr 2019

I have set the video to start just before the question is asked.

https://www.facebook.com/betoorourke/videos/390309981699401/?t=1908

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Demsrule86

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17. Maybe because he wants to win in 20.
Mon Apr 22, 2019, 06:02 AM
Apr 2019
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