Democratic Primaries
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But that's beside the point. The goal is to choose the candidate who has the best chance of vanquishing Chump. If Uncle Joe has the best chance of vanquishing Chump he's my man. If he doesn't he isn't. My calculus is that simple.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,501 posts)I have several preferences and Joe would be among them. I have at least three that I definitely do not like, but I'm quite certain they will not come close to becoming our nominee.
We have so many excellent choices, I'm not going to attach myself to one so early. The roller coaster ride would be too exhausting and I would lose my focus and possibly what sanity I have left.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
corbettkroehler
(1,898 posts)His resume is a mixed bag, to be sure. However, measured against Trump, any of the Democrats would be a huge improvement and Joe has earned due consideration.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DownriverDem
(6,229 posts)trump does not want to run against him. That should say it all.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demit
(11,238 posts)Winning primaries is the first step, I would think. But it's all speculation, even at that point.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)As we have seen in the past. There are no guarantees. Esp since the candidate is not favorable or unfavorable in a vacuum. A lot depends on the economy at the time, and the competitor.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demit
(11,238 posts)That was my point.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)beat Trump in those states. That is how you choose.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demit
(11,238 posts)There's no logic in what you're saying. Saying Biden has the best chance of beating Trump is a theory based on no evidence. An assertion based on hope. You're hoping that people in a state will vote for someone out of sentiment, because he was born there? PA is a large state. I'm not sure how sentimental we all are. Also, how does being born in PA guarantee a win in Wisconsin and Michigan? What's the logic there?
He may very well be a juggernaut who takes the country by storm and wins primary after primary. But that hasn't happened yet. There's going to be a long campaign season, during which Biden will tell us his vision for the future, and I thinkI hopethat that information is at least as important to voters as the fact he was born in one of the states we lost in 2016.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Funtatlaguy
(10,878 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,555 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Funtatlaguy
(10,878 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,555 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FM123
(10,053 posts)How do we folks decide what exactly matters or not? I can't help but think of VA governor Ralph Northam when the disgusting photos came out of him in blackface during med school - there was so much anger and feelings of betrayal that someone like that could do such a horrible thing. Folks were up in arms screaming for his resignation, then poof, a few months go by and he remains in office and it is not even mentioned anymore as if it never even happened...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Collimator
(1,639 posts)That's the main reason why whats-his-face got as far as he did.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)Stop falling for the GOP tricks.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,555 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oldsoftie
(12,555 posts)Thats it.
But if the party as a whole decides it wants to run someone whose platform is what everyone dreams of but who trump beats in the polls by 10%, then no whining when trump is still president 1/21.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Renew Deal
(81,861 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LongtimeAZDem
(4,494 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(36,080 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
INdemo
(6,994 posts)White House one way or the other.The Repukes actually pulled some shit to make sure McCain didn't win the primary because he would not have gone along with Karl Roves scheme So they had the kid Bush.
And they won by cheating...They stole 140,000 Ohio votes in 2004 to keep the kid in office.
In 2008 the Obama campaign had so many safe guards set and was so well organized it left Karl Rove and the Republicans in the dust with their heads spinning. The same in 2012. Remember when Karl Rove did not believe the returns when Obama won Ohio and Romney had his transition team all ready to go...
So fast forward to 2016..Republicans were not going to allow the Democrats to keep the White House even though Hillary won so they came up with the hacking by Russia and if anyone believes Republicans in the Senate and the House didn't know what the hell was going on well then it snows in July and Rains inside a Vacuum.
Republicans have never won an election honestly. Go back to 1948 that had Dewey the winning before the votes were even counted. In 1960 Nixon being the crook that he was, no doubt with his gang of crooks made election theft attempts but failed.
So no doubt Repukes have all the negatives set for every single Democrat in the primary.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
INdemo
(6,994 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
INdemo
(6,994 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,555 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
INdemo
(6,994 posts)What were the Democrats thinking?
Going back to 80's and the Iran Contra actions by the Reagan team not exactly normal politics.
Charles Manatt DNC Chair 84 and Paul G. Kirk DNC Chair 88 a very weak Democratic organization then.
My point with all this is
Republicans have to cheat to win and do. You mentioned you mention 1988..Well there was a Campaign chairman (lee Atwater) that would do any underhanded trick he could to win and he did for Geo. HW
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,555 posts)Everyone has their "war rooms' & political hacks. Sure, Atwater was ruthless. But remember where willie Horton came from.
And unlike '16 & '14, those votes werent even close. You just have to learn from your mistakes. And thats how Obama won in '08
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JI7
(89,252 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,555 posts)I think Biden can take the personal attacks sure to come from trump. I'm not so sure about several of the other candidates. And i think Biden would also have some good comebacks as well. If he can get trump flustered, he'll be weakened.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MustLoveBeagles
(11,611 posts)You're being awfully generous there.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Terrible 2 year old.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MustLoveBeagles
(11,611 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MustLoveBeagles
(11,611 posts)Even winning candidates and campaigns make mistakes. There's no such thing as a perfect candidate. People searching for that are doomed to disappointment. If Joe Biden is our nominee I would gladly vote for him in general. He's in my top 5 list.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oldsoftie
(12,555 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)trump wants to run against sanders and is afraid of Joe Biden
Link to tweet
The person that Trump cant figure out is Joe Biden. Trump has tried the Sleepy Joe attack but has flopped. Trump has now moved on to trying to attack Bidens populism by coining him 1% Joe. This also wont work, especially coming from Donald Trump. Trump fears Bidens populism and former vice presidents appeal in Rust Belt states.
Biden scares Trump, and that fear is never more obvious than when Trump starts talking about his potential opponents in 2020.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden