Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumSanders' top strategists leave his campaign.
NBC News:
Tad Devine, Mark Longabaugh and Julian Mulvey, colleagues in a political consulting firm who all played leading roles in Sanders' 2016 campaign for the White House, are parting ways with the senator, citing creative differences. "The entire firm has stepped away. We're leaving the campaign," Longabaugh told NBC News on Tuesday. "We just didn't have a meeting of the minds."
Devine, a veteran Democratic presidential operative, was a familiar presence on TV in 2016 as Sanders' chief strategist, responsible for setting the early direction of the campaign when few other Washington insiders believed the little-known Vermont independent could be a serious contender for the Democratic presidential nomination.
Longabaugh helped design and implement the campaign's delegate-hunting roadmap and negotiated with key outside players like the Democratic National Committee on issues like debates. Mulvey helped craft the firm's ads for Sanders, including his best-known commercial, which featured the Simon & Garfunkel song "America."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/bernie-sanders-staff-shakeup-top-strategists-leave-his-presidential-campaign-n976221?cid=public-rss_20190226
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,147 posts)However Devine's ties to Paul Manafort and the Russians would bring additional unwanted scrutiny to the Sanders campaign in my opinion. So maybe it is good for Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,147 posts)sorted out well in advance of announcing. Devine and co were a huge part of his campaign in 2016. Their departure after only one week raises all sorts of questions.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,147 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to draw major attention this time around. The media always plays up shiny new people and pans the old, seen-them/written-that candidates. Sanders benefited tremendously from that dynamic in 2016 but is no longer new. And it's way past time for the scrutiny and questions.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BannonsLiver
(16,387 posts)Last edited Wed Feb 27, 2019, 02:04 PM - Edit history (1)
Bernie apparently thinks he can inoculate himself against questions about his record on Russia and NATO and of course DeVines rather interesting client list as well by cutting ties. Not gonna work.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)now and they specialize in skewing normal election dynamics. Still, our investigative journalists are pretty redoubtable themselves.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Nanjeanne
(4,960 posts)Sanders campaign.
It's so hard to keep up with what's a good thing and what's a bad thing for some.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Join the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Nanjeanne
(4,960 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!
Join the revolution!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)who block his militant imperialism against two dozen nations and to throw power to traitorous Republicans who help him. Putin is desperate to keep Democrats from winning in 2020 because we will put and end to his attempt to destroy America through occult warfare. His fellow Oligarchs who maintain him in power are very afraid he has overreached. He has.
So what positives could possibly outweigh the reality that Russia will use Sanders has a weapon in its occult warfare again, when we have so many strongly progressive Democratic candidates who all pose a real threat to Putins ambitions?
Sanders will be a much weaker weapon this time, but we can count on them using every weapon available, and every derailed voter who resents Sanders loss and goes on to vote third-party or for Republicans again will repay Russias investment.
You do know that he is already, once again, trying to draw conservative Trump populists to himself to win? What socially conservative populists require to be wooed is not what would draw me but would once again make me run the other direction.
They loved his badmouthing Democrats, you know, and his pursuit of them guarantees he will have to continue it to Russias benefit.
Socially conservative but economically progressive populists are not exactly big on diversity or social justice issues. Thats why Sanders couldnt promise our black voter bloc what they required in 2016 It would have lost him most of his populist vote.
By the way, I noticed that Ocasio-Cortez is not supporting his candidacy but rather expressing enthusiasm for all the wonderful Democratic progressives who are running. Good for her!
Also, her cosponsor for the new green deal bill is one of her many Democratic colleagues whose voting records are actually effectively indistinguishable from Sanders on progressive issues.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)As a 2016 Sanders person, I felt Weaver really blew Sanders chances for the nomination by just tossing out red meat to core supporters. Weaver never bothered to broaden the coalition. Devine tried to do some of that, but appears he got elbowed out of the way.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,084 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)It is weird timing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,084 posts)not been replaced yet if that's not what you are implying?
6. Paul Manafort not replaced yet? nt
Top Sanders consultants leave 2020 campaign
Tad Devine was a witness for the special counsel offices prosecution against Paul Manafort. That's his only connection to Bernie's campaign, long before he worked for Sanders Presidential campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)I guess they worked together before on foreign elections.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,084 posts)Manafort didn't worked for the consulting firm, Devine Mulvey Longabaugh, so he would never have had to have been replaced.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)You are trying to make it into a conspiracy when its just about unmistakeable similarities. I watch MSNBC for my news, not just the internet, though.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,084 posts)It was also on the news at the time.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rubycramer/bernie-sanders-adviser-is-assisting-special-counsel
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)against Hillary. We all saw months/years of similarities in attacks, now proven with the Mueller report.
You keep trying to pinhole a small part of their relationship/association. Edit: your link is about Ukraine
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,084 posts)to Devine's firm leaving Sander's campaign. Like I said, Manafort never worked for Devine's consulting firm. People are again attempting to tie Manafort to Bernie based on the past political campaigns in the Ukraine by Devine and Manafort . You yourself brought Manafort into the conversation. That's all I have to say.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)internet connection knows who Paul Manafort is. And they have a shared history, that is a fact. They both ran the opposition campaigns against Hillary and some attacks were similarmore fact from 2016 analysis. edit: it is not a conspiracy or smear to notice opposition campaign similarities.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)on this site. Scroll down to see how many times the firm invoiced Manafort.
https://heavy.com/news/2018/07/tad-devine/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,084 posts)Before he went to work on Bernie's campaign.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)setting us up. Not trustworthy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Autumn
(45,084 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)conspiracies. Not connected. Manafort and Devine worked together on foreign elections after that, all Putin approved.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MineralMan
(146,308 posts)Without stability at the top of his campaign structure, it could be difficult to mount a coherent campaign.
I wonder what he's going to do about this.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)Top Bernie Sanders strategists split with his 2020 campaign over creative differences
PUBLISHED 4 HOURS AGO | UPDATED 3 HOURS AGO
Brian Schwartz
@SCHWARTZBCNBC
KEY POINTS
Some of Bernie Sanders top 2016 strategists are splitting with the left-wing senators 2020 presidential campaign over creative differences.
The media consulting firm Devine Mulvey Longabaugh run by Tad Devine, Julian Mulvey and Mark Longabaugh told Sanders on Tuesday that they were walking away from the senators campaign efforts.
There were differences in a creative vision, Longabaugh tells CNBC. We want to leave on a very positive note and we are proud of the work weve done on the campaign. It was just clear, however, that we werent in sync.
More at link,
(Would have loved to have been a fly on the wall at those meetings)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,240 posts)what those "creative differences" are, too, emulatorloo!
Mahalo for this report.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tinrobot
(10,900 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tinrobot
(10,900 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)If what he claims is true, he only has to enter one income and a tally of reimbursements, pretty straightforward stuff, I used to do that in two days when I worked for a corporation and had to expense travel, even now accounting for it is easy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I wonder if they'll go work for someone else? Seem weird if they sat out an election of this magnitude.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)(Mark) Longabaugh said the firm has not been in touch with another 2020 campaign, but he did not rule anything out.
We havent to spoken anyone, he said.
Then, when pressed on whether the firm is interested in backing another candidates organization, Longabaugh responded: Im not going to go there.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)Thanks, E!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Wounded Bear
(58,656 posts)Not sure if that is a good thing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,986 posts)Tad Devine is bad news.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden