Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders Accuses Liberal Think Tank Of Creating 'Smears' Against Progressive Candidates
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Last week, you published an article on ThinkProgress criticizing me for my appearance and for the income I earned from writing a book, Sanders wrote. Then, a day later, you published a video that dishonestly attacked me for hypocrisy in my effort to address income inequality in America a video that was excitedly discussed on many conservative websites.
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His criticism didnt stop with how ThinkProgress treated his own campaign in its reporting. Sanders also took issue in his letter with reporting the site had done on Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warrens claims of Native American ancestry, as well as the site striking a critical tone toward New Jersey Senator Cory Booker for moving in a progressive direction and joining with me on a prescription drug importation bill, Sanders wrote.
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Sanders added in his letter his hopes that ThinkProgress and its parent organization, the Center for American Progress, would change their ways.
The Democratic primary must be a campaign of ideas, not of bad-faith smears, Sanders said. Please help play a constructive role in the effort to defeat Donald Trump.
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https://hillreporter.com/bernie-sanders-accuses-center-for-american-progress-creating-smears-against-progressive-candidates-31013
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)Oh, the irony.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)In a world where irony reigns, where you have to separate, protect and laugh at anything that is honest or has an emotional charge, I bet for catharsis. I like to invest emotionally in things. And catharsis, when it touches the emotional vein, can open the doors of even those who protect themselves. Alejandro Gonzalez Inarritu
Read more at: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/alejandro_gonzalez_inarri_691117?src=t_irony
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Your strongest fans are also fans of ThinkProgress. They might think you're not on their side if you attack their information source.
Dangerous territory ahead, Senator...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SHRED
(28,136 posts)It's not just for Republicans.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
comradebillyboy
(10,149 posts)Mild criticism from a long time liberal outfit certainly produces disproportionate outrage from the person who thinks he is above reproach in all things.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
riverine
(516 posts)We need to set some standard for the term.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)all the whining he did last time around. It was always someone else's fault. Not a good look for a president. Cast your eyes to the current WH occupant.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,278 posts)Link to tweet
Now he has gone into full attack-and-destroy mode, targeting in a vitriolic letter the Center for American Progress, a left-leaning think tank that has advanced, for example, a health-care plan that expands Medicare but is distinct from the Sanders Medicare-for-all plan, and CAP Action Fund, CAPs political arm.....
Whats the reason for his letter? One can surmise its about working the refs, trying to intimidate others from criticizing his ideas or him. Sanderss effort is downright bizarre, when you think about it. Imagine if Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) railed at the New York Times editorial page, demanding more praise, or if Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.) demanded the Nation be more friendly. A Democratic veteran of many campaigns (not associated with CAP) observes, This is disgracefully Trumpian, as Sanders desperately tries to create a fake controversy to change the subject on the eve of the release of his tax returns. If he cant take some accurate, fairly lighthearted ribbing from a progressive source, hes proving that hed be incapable of weathering the general election hurricane that Trump would unleash.....
We already have a president who cant take the rough and tumble of politics and wants to silence critics. I find it hard to imagine that Democrats want someone who might be just as touchy and intolerant of criticism.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,773 posts)That is a no no.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,278 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,253 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)is the equivalent of the National Enquirer.
I trust Bernie's judgement over Tribe any day.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts)Since the mid-1990s, Tribe has represented a number of corporations advocating for their free speech rights and constitutional personhood.[27] Tribe represented General Electric in its defense against its liability under the Comprehensive Environmental Response, Compensation and Liability Act ("Superfund" , in which GE and Tribe unsuccessfully argued that the act unconstitutionally violated General Electric's due process rights.[27][28]
In 2014, Tribe was retained to represent Peabody Energy in a suit against the Environmental Protection Agency. Tribe argued that EPA's use of the Clean Air Act to implement its Clean Power Plan was unconstitutional.[29] Tribe's legal analysis has been criticized by other legal commentators, including fellow Harvard Law School professors Richard J. Lazarus and Jody Freeman, who described his conclusion as "wholly without merit".[30][31] His advocacy for corporations like Peabody has been criticized by some legal experts.[27]
I can do without his opinions.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Gothmog
(145,278 posts)I would advise that you not consider law school I still have my copy of Tribes treatise from the early 1980s. I amjured (the award for high grade in a class) in several courses due to this treatise
I love the way that Sanders supporters have to attack anyone who is not impressed with sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,773 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,278 posts)Prof. Tribe is amazing and has accomplished a great deal in the real world. I Haveno faith whatsoever in sanders judgment
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Gothmog
(145,278 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,278 posts)You do realize that sanders will be vetted this cycle and his reactions so far are not helping him https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bernie-sanderss-campaign-escalates-fight-with-establishment-democrats-in-reprise-of-2016-party-rifts/2019/04/15/8d6844cc-5f90-11e9-9412-daf3d2e67c6d_story.html?utm_term=.cf398d0b1cb8
I think his tone in general is too Trumplike. Its based on anger, said Greg Hale, a longtime Democratic presidential campaign adviser who worked for Clinton in 2016. We all need to be together and we need to have a positive message, not a negative message.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,364 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,253 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mcar
(42,333 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
sheshe2
(83,773 posts)I'd vote for Gothmog anyday.
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sheshe2
(83,773 posts)Thanks for noticing.
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George II
(67,782 posts)...a reminder:
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Obama.
Thank you.
Perfect response. Gothmog has grace and so much class.
Dayum I miss my President.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,278 posts)I miss having a real POTUS
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)He'd make a much better president than either Trump or Sanders! Go Goth!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)I like the cut of your jib and truth-telling finess
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,278 posts)No one took sanders seriously and so he was not vetted. Vetting is important I amso glad that sanders is being vetted this cycle https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/28/why-bernie-sanders-has-an-uphill-climb-ahead/?utm_term=.1b4f90c2a717
Which is what we could say about the Sanders candidacy as a whole: Theres no way to know how its going to go. But hes got his work cut out for him.
See also https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/19/politics/bernie-sanders-2020-campaign-donald-trump/index.html?utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2019-02-20T14%3A52%3A07&utm_term=image&utm_medium=social%C2%A0
One of the secrets to Sanders' success in 2016 was that no one -- most especially Clinton -- thought he had any chance of going anywhere in the race. Clinton largely ignored him for the better part of 2015, allowing some problematic parts of Sanders' record for Democrats -- most notably his voting record on guns -- to go unnoticed. (When the race began to tighten, Clinton gently prodded Sanders on guns and health care.) Sanders, too, largely flew under the radar of investigative reporters for major news outlets who were busy looking into Clinton, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and others seen as more viable candidates. (That reality clearly benefited Donald Trump in the early days of the campaign, as well.)
Sanders will get no pass -- from either the media or his fellow candidates -- this time around. He is among the frontrunners -- and will be treated as such. His wife's time as president of Burlington College could well come up. And his opponents will do a deep dive into his nearly 30 years of votes as a member of the House and Senate. This is all very normal stuff in a campaign. But not for Sanders.
Now we can see how sanders reacts to being vetted
Link to tweet
It also raised questions as to whether the senator was ready for the scrutiny that would come from being a frontrunning candidate, after having run as an insurgent against an ideal foil, Hillary Clinton, in 2016.
When youre leading in the polls of president of your party you should expect investigative stories to hit at least once a week and to be attacked by your opponents every day, said Ben Labolt, who served as press secretary to Barack Obama during the 2012 campaign. An attack on something like ThinkProgress is the sign of a super-narrow-minded campaign that isnt actually thinking of how the election will be won... They have chosen an establishment force that no one outside of the Starbucks at 16th and K would recognize.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueFlorida
(1,532 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,278 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)Going on the offensive and attacking fellow progressives when it happens to you isn't a good look.
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Cha
(297,253 posts)Not a divide.
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ehrnst
(32,640 posts)I want one with the skills to work in a team, and is capable of diplomacy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,253 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)Poor little Bernie being expected to be accountable
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Gothmog
(145,278 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,253 posts)primaried in 2012.. and badmouthed him weekly on those shows but he can't handle being Vetted now?!
President Obama is strong, tho.
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Me.
(35,454 posts)Time it was done
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namahage
(1,157 posts)he is NOT going to like it if he actually becomes the nominee...and probably even less if he were to make it all the way to the top.
Jodi Enda, editor for ThinkProgress, nailed it when she said, "Political leaders should not be able to muzzle or stop coverage that they consider critical.
Unless, of course, he's TRYING to be the Trump of the left.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
sheshe2
(83,773 posts)That didn't go very well.
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Cha
(297,253 posts)Please check out Michelle Obama's quote..
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=72835
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Michelle
The Beatles
Michelle, ma belle
These are words that go together well
My Michelle
Michelle, ma belle
Sont les mots qui vont tres bien ensemble
Tres bien ensemble
I love you, I love you, I love you
That's all I want to say
Until I find a way
I will say the only words I know that
You'll understand
Michelle, ma belle
Sont les mots qui vont tres bien ensemble
Tres bien ensemble
I need to, I need to, I need to
I need to make you see
Oh, what you mean to me
Until I do I'm hoping you will
Know what I mean
I love you
I want you, I want you, I want you
I think
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1QXKF_enUS692US706&ei=CLG2XPCSBc2m_QaHu5OoAQ&q=michelle+my+belle+lyrics&oq=michelle+my+belle&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0i71l8.0.0..5579...0.0..0.0.0.......0......gws-wiz.x24TmwWxb3A
Luv ya, Cha~
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,253 posts)Michelle's quote had it exactly right about strong men
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sheshe2
(83,773 posts)She nailed it!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
delisen
(6,043 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
KitSileya
(4,035 posts)Faiz Shakir (good of Senator Sanders for hiring the first Muslim American campaign manager, by the way!) worked at Think Progress, and from what I understand, he was instrumental in establishing Think Progress' editorial independence when he was its editor-in-chief.
That Senator Sanders now wants a billionaire to stifle said editorial independence is baffling to me. Is he so against criticism that he would attack journalistic independence in the time of Trump? :shudder: The US was just added to a list of countries most dangerous to journalists in the world - we need to thread carefully so that we do not give Trump any cover in his attacks on journalists who criticize him. Now, anything Think Progress says that is critical of Trump can be completely dismissed by the dumpster fire in the White House. Two steps forward and one and a half steps back, I guess.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yardwork
(61,622 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden