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COOK POLITICAL REPORT CALLS FLORIDA FOR BIDEN (Original Post) RandySF Mar 2020 OP
Not surprised he's up by nearly 300K already. sunonmars Mar 2020 #1
And, thank you for that!! Cha Mar 2020 #3
Holy cow that's huge! onetexan Mar 2020 #4
up by nearly 500K now, this is a murder. sunonmars Mar 2020 #7
It's maddening msnbc isn't covering the elections.... getagrip_already Mar 2020 #2
I think they're waiting for the Central Time Zone polls to close. RandySF Mar 2020 #5
MSNBC did state they would not characterize the primary until FL Cental Time Zone polls closed n/t Greywing Mar 2020 #8
I agree..... chillfactor Mar 2020 #12
An extremely critical state in the general election still_one Mar 2020 #6
And a highly unreliable one. denem Mar 2020 #9
Concetrate on all of them, that is how President Obama won still_one Mar 2020 #10
By all means, but FL is more unreliable than young voters. denem Mar 2020 #11
Hillary lost by 1.2% in Florida. It was close still_one Mar 2020 #13
And Democrats lost their FL Senator in 2018 denem Mar 2020 #14
I know still_one Mar 2020 #15
Disclaimer. denem Mar 2020 #16
I hear you, and feel the same way still_one Mar 2020 #17
Because of voting corruption rockfordfile Mar 2020 #18
And that is the point. Has it been fixed? No. denem Mar 2020 #19
Florida is a heck of a lot more winnable than states like Texas or Georgia Awsi Dooger Mar 2020 #20
FL vote counting is unreliable. denem Mar 2020 #21
Candidates who has dropped out (others) are leading Bernie Sanders in Florida. Gothmog Mar 2020 #22
 

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
1. Not surprised he's up by nearly 300K already.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:15 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Cha

(297,317 posts)
3. And, thank you for that!!
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:18 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

onetexan

(13,043 posts)
4. Holy cow that's huge!
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:19 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
7. up by nearly 500K now, this is a murder.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:36 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
2. It's maddening msnbc isn't covering the elections....
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:17 PM
Mar 2020

They put results under the chyron's but you have to watch the screen to see them. I just play it in the background.

All virus, all the time.

C;mon guys. You've had months for that. Give a few minutes to the elections.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

RandySF

(58,907 posts)
5. I think they're waiting for the Central Time Zone polls to close.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:20 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Greywing

(1,124 posts)
8. MSNBC did state they would not characterize the primary until FL Cental Time Zone polls closed n/t
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:40 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
12. I agree.....
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:54 PM
Mar 2020

it is coronavirus 24/7.....I tuned in to see ELECTION results. I may just turn the tv off and go to bed early.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,219 posts)
6. An extremely critical state in the general election
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:35 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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denem

(11,045 posts)
9. And a highly unreliable one.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:42 PM
Mar 2020

Concentrate on the midwest first.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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still_one

(92,219 posts)
10. Concetrate on all of them, that is how President Obama won
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:44 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
11. By all means, but FL is more unreliable than young voters.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:45 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,219 posts)
13. Hillary lost by 1.2% in Florida. It was close
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:13 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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denem

(11,045 posts)
14. And Democrats lost their FL Senator in 2018
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:33 PM
Mar 2020

amidst the biggest blue wave in 50 years. Unreliable. Like 2016, 2004, 2000 - never there when you need them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
16. Disclaimer.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:51 PM
Mar 2020

I've never got over 2000. It's unreasonable to hold a grudge - but the butterfly ballot, chads and the court cases left an indelible mark. I wish Democrats (with that D after their name) well, in every state, including Florida of course. I just never want to go through another election hanging on the results in FL.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,219 posts)
17. I hear you, and feel the same way
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:53 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
18. Because of voting corruption
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:57 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
19. And that is the point. Has it been fixed? No.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:03 PM
Mar 2020

No it hasn't. So who in their right mind would depend on FL to win in 2020.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
20. Florida is a heck of a lot more winnable than states like Texas or Georgia
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:37 AM
Mar 2020

Same with North Carolina. Same with Ohio. All of those states have above 40% self-identified conservatives. Florida doesn't even reach 40% conservatives during midterm years, let alone presidential years which are a younger and more liberal electorate.

We have been outmaneuvered in Florida. I have posted that countless times including a lengthy post tonight. Florida is a tricky state due to so much variance from area to area and among the Hispanic electorate. Our outreach is lousy and we consistently fall behind on Spanish media.

It's always minimizing and not maximizing. It drives me nuts when somehow we think the final months are plenty of time to prioritize while the other side is active all year every year.

Biden has a big chance in Florida since the senior citizen demographic is changing in our favor anyway, plus Biden has particular strength among that block. My 77 year old aunt is an example. She is considering Biden after being gung ho Trump in 2016, switching from Obama.

Regardless I'm sure I'll be reading plenty of misplaced optimism toward Georgia and Texas while Florida is ridiculed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

denem

(11,045 posts)
21. FL vote counting is unreliable.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 02:53 AM
Mar 2020

2018 is an excellent example of that. Never been fixed. The butterfly ballot gave us W. 20 years later the systems are not secure. If it is close, the results will miraculously swing over to the GOP side of the line. The Democratic Party would be insane to rely on Florida. The last thing I want is having to wait on the FL result to know the outcome of the GE. FL is a bonus. Nothing more.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
22. Candidates who has dropped out (others) are leading Bernie Sanders in Florida.
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 01:18 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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