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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:38 PM Mar 2020

If Bernie refuses to quit after tonight's losses should Joe just ignore him and focus on Trump?


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If Bernie refuses to quit after tonight's losses should Joe just ignore him and focus on Trump? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2020 OP
Ignore Bernie Zeus69 Mar 2020 #1
Good point n/t Bradshaw3 Mar 2020 #5
GREAT idea! MyOwnPeace Mar 2020 #8
Yes gristy Mar 2020 #10
And he should ask his supporters SCantiGOP Mar 2020 #22
+1 TheFarseer Mar 2020 #56
K&R. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2020 #2
no more primaries in the near to mid future so talking about bernie just gives him publicity nt msongs Mar 2020 #3
Of course. OnDoutside Mar 2020 #4
Yep ibegurpard Mar 2020 #6
Perfect answer Just_Vote_Dem Mar 2020 #9
Not really. Want the best candidate to win. AtheistCrusader Mar 2020 #35
The best candidate has already won NCProgressive Mar 2020 #38
Sorry, the last states to go in the primary have just as much value as the first. AtheistCrusader Mar 2020 #40
Sanders will need to win by a 75%-25% margin in those states NCProgressive Mar 2020 #44
It's not futility, even if he can't win. AtheistCrusader Mar 2020 #45
It is futility NCProgressive Mar 2020 #47
Under this thinking all the rest WyLoochka Mar 2020 #59
I believe you ibegurpard Mar 2020 #51
Yes! betsuni Mar 2020 #23
This is the best response so far. Arkansas Granny Mar 2020 #24
I think we've got bigger issues and problems SBoy Mar 2020 #7
because he and his surrogates continue to attack and damage both joe and the dem party.... getagrip_already Mar 2020 #11
Other than a few partisans SBoy Mar 2020 #16
As a progressive, you should be concerned about damage to progressive causes dansolo Mar 2020 #19
Bernie has anti-Biden ads running which have doctored videos NCProgressive Mar 2020 #39
If nobody is paying attention to them, why are they doing it? And they're not just "surrogates".... George II Mar 2020 #41
Cable news ratings are through the roof right now. Tercules Mar 2020 #54
Why did we ever design a primary system that takes this long to complete if no one actually wants AtheistCrusader Mar 2020 #36
Under normal circumstances no one wouldn't want it to run its course. But this is obviously over... George II Mar 2020 #43
'essentially been decided'. AtheistCrusader Mar 2020 #46
There have been 29 states/territories voting so far, Sanders has won only 7-1/2, Biden 19.... George II Mar 2020 #49
I think we are capable of SunsetDreams2 Mar 2020 #13
How about for the good of the party? That's right, Bernie doesn't belong. dem4decades Mar 2020 #15
It is because we have bigger issues... sheshe2 Mar 2020 #29
Yes and release Bloomberg on him. dem4decades Mar 2020 #12
My thoughts exactly Zambero Mar 2020 #14
I thought that this morning. Just ignore him the rest of the way, concentrate on trump, and NO.... George II Mar 2020 #17
I think all of the Democratic party, including voters should shun and scorn Sanders if he does not LizBeth Mar 2020 #18
The last thing we need is a repeat of the 2016 division of voters. Rizen Mar 2020 #20
Bravo! beastie boy Mar 2020 #27
+1 AtheistCrusader Mar 2020 #37
Bernie who ? left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #21
ignore him like most everyone else is evertonfc Mar 2020 #25
Yes. LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #26
I think that if Bernie wants to show that it's about Us and not Him he will bow out once it's clear ehrnst Mar 2020 #28
Ignore Bernie and focus on the General Election. ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2020 #30
with very low turnout the election results may skewed AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #31
The opposite is happening !!! DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2020 #32
can't rely on youth vote, they chickened out lol AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #53
This is a GREAT attitude to have. Thank you. AtheistCrusader Mar 2020 #58
The whole party would need to pile on and endorse Biden and say, lets end this now to save lives. sunonmars Mar 2020 #33
The primary's been over for about two weeks. IluvPitties Mar 2020 #34
It's time for him to go. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2020 #60
If Saint Bernard refuses to quit tonight... tarheelsunc Mar 2020 #42
That is EXACTLY how I feel. nt Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #61
Bernie exited his last presidential run BlueIdaho Mar 2020 #48
Like it or not we are in a crisis and the Democrats need to unite and speak with one voice Greywing Mar 2020 #50
Really, we should ALL ignore him and his fans SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #52
His participation is basically pointless at this juncture. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2020 #55
Yes, ignore him TheFarseer Mar 2020 #57
 

Zeus69

(391 posts)
1. Ignore Bernie
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:39 PM
Mar 2020

but "speak" to his supporters

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

MyOwnPeace

(16,927 posts)
8. GREAT idea!
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:46 PM
Mar 2020

Well stated, Zeus, and welcome to DU!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SCantiGOP

(13,871 posts)
22. And he should ask his supporters
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:03 PM
Mar 2020

to likewise ignore Bernie and his supporters.
Stop the attacks and anger towards his very sincere supporters, who we will need in November to defeat the billionaires, Trump forces, and Russians.
Biden has won the primary. There is no reason to lash out at Bernie the way so many do here on DU.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

msongs

(67,417 posts)
3. no more primaries in the near to mid future so talking about bernie just gives him publicity nt
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:39 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
6. Yep
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:43 PM
Mar 2020

Say nice things about him and his supporters and run like it's the general. Doing otherwise will just give them something to fight against.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Just_Vote_Dem

(2,808 posts)
9. Perfect answer
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:46 PM
Mar 2020

They want conflict, don't engage.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
35. Not really. Want the best candidate to win.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:55 PM
Mar 2020

But absolutely, nothing is served by us gnawing on each other.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
38. The best candidate has already won
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:58 PM
Mar 2020

The tribe has spoken

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
40. Sorry, the last states to go in the primary have just as much value as the first.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:59 PM
Mar 2020

Their voices need to be heard. Is it *really* too much to ask?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
44. Sanders will need to win by a 75%-25% margin in those states
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:10 PM
Mar 2020

to catch up.

We don't have to engage in exercises in futility.

Math is your friend.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
45. It's not futility, even if he can't win.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:13 PM
Mar 2020

I can't believe we're having ANOTHER primary where this isn't understood.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
47. It is futility
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:16 PM
Mar 2020

but also infuriating because Sanders continues to run deceptive and doctored ads against Joe while he keeps running.

Sanders has every right to say why he is better, I have no problem with Sanders making a positive case; However, deceptive negative ads only help Trump. Any loyal Democrat would quit in Sanders' position. Why is Sanders so special that he can keep damaging our nominee?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

WyLoochka

(1,629 posts)
59. Under this thinking all the rest
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 12:24 AM
Mar 2020

Should still be in. It's not "fair that I didn't get to vote for Cory Booker or Kamala Harris".

I can't believe we are having another primary wherein it is not understood - when you lose, you get out.

You get out immediately and wholeheartedly get behind the winner and do whatever possible to get that person elected, along with the down ticket candidates, all across the country.

It was proven in 2016 that allowing the season to drag on only to have the bros humiliate civilized / rational Dems by throwing temper tantrums like spoiled 2 year-olds at the convention where they booed our real heroes like John Lewis was very destructive. it's one of the main reasons we got stuck with Trump.

Bernie needs to get out now and campaign hard for Biden who has won overwhelmingly on the rules that Bernie wrote. The rules he thought would result in his winning. Oh well, hoisted by his own petard. He needs to show some class, some honor by getting out now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
51. I believe you
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:18 PM
Mar 2020

I just don't want anyone giving some people an excuse to claim that "the establishment" is out to get them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

betsuni

(25,537 posts)
23. Yes!
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:05 PM
Mar 2020

Say nice things, lots of nice things. Keep uniting together as a force to beat Trump. Sigh. It's like we need half a dozen superheroes to beat him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
24. This is the best response so far.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:06 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SBoy

(92 posts)
7. I think we've got bigger issues and problems
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:44 PM
Mar 2020

Why does it’s matter whether Bernie stays in or not?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
11. because he and his surrogates continue to attack and damage both joe and the dem party....
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:48 PM
Mar 2020

Neither of which has any point beyond pettiness and vindictiveness.

Don't do trumps job for him.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SBoy

(92 posts)
16. Other than a few partisans
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:53 PM
Mar 2020

Nobody is paying attention to his surrogates, and I’m a Bernie supporter. Like I wrote, we’ve got bigger issues than what his surrogates are saying.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

dansolo

(5,376 posts)
19. As a progressive, you should be concerned about damage to progressive causes
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:59 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie has become the symbol of progressives. Is satisfying his ego more important than the causes that he supposedly stands for?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NCProgressive

(1,315 posts)
39. Bernie has anti-Biden ads running which have doctored videos
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:59 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
41. If nobody is paying attention to them, why are they doing it? And they're not just "surrogates"....
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:05 PM
Mar 2020

....they're PAID employees of the Sanders campaign - Turner, Sirota, Gray, Orfalea.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Tercules

(32 posts)
54. Cable news ratings are through the roof right now.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:30 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie's *paid* surrogates are on regularly attacking, directly or indirectly, Biden. People are indeed paying attention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
36. Why did we ever design a primary system that takes this long to complete if no one actually wants
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:56 PM
Mar 2020

it to run its course?

The last states to go have just as much voice as the first. Listen to them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
43. Under normal circumstances no one wouldn't want it to run its course. But this is obviously over...
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:08 PM
Mar 2020

....even more so after tonight.

So why prolong something that has essentially been decided and put voters' health at risk?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
46. 'essentially been decided'.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:15 PM
Mar 2020

Not ok.

Yes, I'm going to 'vote blue' no matter, but the primary needs a SERIOUS overhaul if we're just going to pretend the same last-round states don't matter, every time. It's not ok.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
49. There have been 29 states/territories voting so far, Sanders has won only 7-1/2, Biden 19....
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:26 PM
Mar 2020

Biden will increase his lead by about 170 more delegates tonight, giving him a 330 delegate lead, and Sanders isn't leading in a single one of the remaining states. He will have to win EVERY remaining state by 60%, and he's only been over 60% in three - home state Vermont, tiny Northern Marianas, and Nevada, a caucus state.

So which states do you think he'll win to begin to catch up?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SunsetDreams2

(268 posts)
13. I think we are capable of
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:51 PM
Mar 2020

Concentrating on more than one thing at a time.
It matters, if Bernie has the integrity to realize the math is not there after tonight. It matters, if the math is not there if you back away and aim your fire solely at the GOP and Trump or if you stay in and continue to sling mud at the eventual nominee and the Democratic Party. It matters a great deal.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dem4decades

(11,296 posts)
15. How about for the good of the party? That's right, Bernie doesn't belong.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:52 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sheshe2

(83,791 posts)
29. It is because we have bigger issues...
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:28 PM
Mar 2020
SBoy
7. I think we've got bigger issues and problems

Why does it’s matter whether Bernie stays in or not?


It is because we have bigger issues that he should drop out after tonight. If Biden has a huge win tonight, Bernie does not have the math to make it. We are in the BEGINNING OF A PANDEMIC. Millions will die. It is not the time and place to create division within our party and that is what he and his surrogates are doing.

I think he should take his campaign slogan to heart and truly mean "not me, us". Unless he only meant some of us. It should be about what is right for the entire Country. We are in a crisis situation and many of us are going to die.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dem4decades

(11,296 posts)
12. Yes and release Bloomberg on him.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:50 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Zambero

(8,964 posts)
14. My thoughts exactly
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:51 PM
Mar 2020

Why continue to debate a non-viable candidate who has no intention of unifying the party? It's time to shift priorities to defeating Trump. Anything else is waste of time and missed opportunity.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. I thought that this morning. Just ignore him the rest of the way, concentrate on trump, and NO....
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:57 PM
Mar 2020

....more debates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
18. I think all of the Democratic party, including voters should shun and scorn Sanders if he does not
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 05:58 PM
Mar 2020

step down and get 100% behind Biden like all our other Democratic runner have responsibly done. The voters have spoken.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Rizen

(709 posts)
20. The last thing we need is a repeat of the 2016 division of voters.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:00 PM
Mar 2020

We need a united party including moderates and liberals against Trump. I support Sanders but will vote for Biden if he gets the nomination, just like I voted for Clinton in 2016.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

beastie boy

(9,375 posts)
27. Bravo!
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:16 PM
Mar 2020

Thank you, and spread the good word. We need more people like you speaking up.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
37. +1
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:57 PM
Mar 2020

The primary election is a contest. The general election is war.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

evertonfc

(1,713 posts)
25. ignore him like most everyone else is
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:10 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
28. I think that if Bernie wants to show that it's about Us and not Him he will bow out once it's clear
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:16 PM
Mar 2020

there's no path to the nomination via pledged delegates and the votes of the people, and which will give states the go-ahead to cancel the upcoming primaries, and preserve public health.

I have my doubts, however.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,786 posts)
30. Ignore Bernie and focus on the General Election.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:32 PM
Mar 2020

There is no mathematical way for Sanders to get a plurality of delegates.

Even the conventions are now in question for both Presidential candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
31. with very low turnout the election results may skewed
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:33 PM
Mar 2020

possibly towards Bernie if only young and unafraid people are showing up at the polls.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
53. can't rely on youth vote, they chickened out lol
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:20 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
58. This is a GREAT attitude to have. Thank you.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 11:38 PM
Mar 2020

Very helpful in the general as well.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
33. The whole party would need to pile on and endorse Biden and say, lets end this now to save lives.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:42 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

IluvPitties

(3,181 posts)
34. The primary's been over for about two weeks.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 06:48 PM
Mar 2020

Biden needs to go GE mode.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
42. If Saint Bernard refuses to quit tonight...
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:07 PM
Mar 2020

never again do I want to hear ANYONE try to tell me he's a Democrat, that he cares about our party, that he cares about this country, or that he cares about the people of this country. His spiteful, divisive, and reckless campaign have made it painfully obvious that there is only one person he cares about.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Maru Kitteh

(28,341 posts)
61. That is EXACTLY how I feel. nt
Wed Mar 18, 2020, 11:14 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
48. Bernie exited his last presidential run
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:19 PM
Mar 2020

With most of his political cache intact. Looks like this time he will burn his ship to the waterline.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Greywing

(1,124 posts)
50. Like it or not we are in a crisis and the Democrats need to unite and speak with one voice
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 07:29 PM
Mar 2020

and pound trump into the sand ... call his out on his lies!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)
52. Really, we should ALL ignore him and his fans
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 08:19 PM
Mar 2020

Just cut them out of the conversation. Moving on!!!!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
55. His participation is basically pointless at this juncture.
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:29 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

TheFarseer

(9,323 posts)
57. Yes, ignore him
Tue Mar 17, 2020, 09:37 PM
Mar 2020

He can’t win so no use attacking him. The only thing that will do is alienate his supporters, who we need to vote blue in Nov.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
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