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Funtatlaguy

(10,878 posts)
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 08:48 PM Apr 2019

Do we want a Kamikaze or a Kumbaya nominee ?

Our candidates are going to mostly line up pretty much the same on policy.
Style will make the difference
Do we want a street fighter that will overturn Trumps legacy quickly or an incrementalist that will try to work with and compromise with the GOP.

The fighters are:
Bernie
Warren
Mayor Pete
Harris
Gillibrand
Yang
Gravel
Inslee

The conciliatory are:
Biden
Klobuchar
Beto
Booker
Stalwell
Hickenlooper
Gabbard
Ryan
Castro

Neither style is better or worse. I’ve used both in business and personal matters. It’s kind of a carrot or stick approach. So please don’t think I’m denigrating any of our candidates. I like them all.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Do we want a Kamikaze or a Kumbaya nominee ? (Original Post) Funtatlaguy Apr 2019 OP
MICHAEL AVENATTI JI7 Apr 2019 #1
The guy who's about to do time for ripping off his clients and extorting Nike? Sorry, no. Hekate Apr 2019 #6
yeah , but tough guy armchair warriors want their version on trump JI7 Apr 2019 #10
Ain't that the sad truth. nt Hekate Apr 2019 #11
lol! salin Apr 2019 #27
Are you intentionally trying to incite a flamebait OP? still_one Apr 2019 #2
Not at all. Just different styles... Funtatlaguy Apr 2019 #8
YOUR Value Judgement characterizations of the candidates says something else still_one Apr 2019 #13
A WINNER, elleng Apr 2019 #3
what stupid bs JI7 Apr 2019 #4
You do know that Kamikaze pilots had a 100% death rate from deliberately crashing into warships? Hekate Apr 2019 #5
How do you come up with a fighter being a Kamikaze? Uncle Joe Apr 2019 #7
I certainly do not want someone on a suicide mission. betsuni Apr 2019 #9
Was just going for alliteration Funtatlaguy Apr 2019 #12
It's just that I was picturing a plane smashing into a ship vs people singing around a campfire. betsuni Apr 2019 #14
You would think that folks would just know what you meant by that and not pick apart UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #25
False choice. kag Apr 2019 #15
Obama who won both elections was accused of being Kumbayah by a certain shitty crowd JI7 Apr 2019 #16
I for one have had enough of the divisive attacking that we've had to deal with for so long Indygram Apr 2019 #17
Quite a mangled metaphor, but I like your list. Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 2019 #18
I want someone. Blue_true Apr 2019 #19
If you wanted to alliterate, should have been "Pugilist vs. pragmatist" aidbo Apr 2019 #20
I like that Funtatlaguy Apr 2019 #21
Mr Kamikaze! Mr DNA! Codeine Apr 2019 #22
"Kamikaze" is not a very good term for what I think you intend. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2019 #23
BOTH...and BIDEN fits that bill. nt UniteFightBack Apr 2019 #24
Agreed! peggysue2 Apr 2019 #36
There is only one person that can garner the greatest number of votes democratisphere Apr 2019 #26
lol shanny Apr 2019 #32
Ah yes, because it's a one issue binary between ritualistic suicide and a woeful call for help. nt Gore1FL Apr 2019 #28
I don't accept your list. murielm99 Apr 2019 #29
Fighter artislife Apr 2019 #30
Thanks, if I would have instead said Pugilist or Pragmatist Funtatlaguy Apr 2019 #34
False choice imo. Warrior or shanny Apr 2019 #31
I would love to believe MyNameGoesHere Apr 2019 #33
We want someone that can defeat the KKK nominee. dalton99a Apr 2019 #35
Biden is not conciliatory and Bernie is not a fighter nt BlueFlorida Apr 2019 #37
Your classifications aren't accurate. I'm pretty sure all of them ecstatic Apr 2019 #38
We have more than the two choices set out in your false dichotomy. comradebillyboy Apr 2019 #39
 

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
6. The guy who's about to do time for ripping off his clients and extorting Nike? Sorry, no.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:03 PM
Apr 2019

Poor Stormy -- she deserves better. And so does the country.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

JI7

(89,250 posts)
10. yeah , but tough guy armchair warriors want their version on trump
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:04 PM
Apr 2019

to cheer on while attacking Democrats.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
11. Ain't that the sad truth. nt
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:06 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

salin

(48,955 posts)
27. lol!
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:43 PM
Apr 2019

I needed a laugh tonight. Thanks.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,212 posts)
2. Are you intentionally trying to incite a flamebait OP?
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 08:54 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Funtatlaguy

(10,878 posts)
8. Not at all. Just different styles...
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:04 PM
Apr 2019

Neither is right or wrong.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

still_one

(92,212 posts)
13. YOUR Value Judgement characterizations of the candidates says something else
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:12 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

elleng

(130,956 posts)
3. A WINNER,
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 08:56 PM
Apr 2019

and forget the list/labels.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
5. You do know that Kamikaze pilots had a 100% death rate from deliberately crashing into warships?
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:01 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Uncle Joe

(58,364 posts)
7. How do you come up with a fighter being a Kamikaze?
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:03 PM
Apr 2019

Winston Churchill was a fighter and Neville Chamberlain was conciliatory.


Thanks for the thread Funtatlaguy

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

betsuni

(25,536 posts)
9. I certainly do not want someone on a suicide mission.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:04 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Funtatlaguy

(10,878 posts)
12. Was just going for alliteration
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:07 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

betsuni

(25,536 posts)
14. It's just that I was picturing a plane smashing into a ship vs people singing around a campfire.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:14 PM
Apr 2019

A little too dramatic. A samurai warrior vs people singing around a campfire would be better.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
25. You would think that folks would just know what you meant by that and not pick apart
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:33 PM
Apr 2019

every god damn word and take it so literally. UGH.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

kag

(4,079 posts)
15. False choice.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:19 PM
Apr 2019

Makes it waaaaaaay too simplistic. And your lists are quite flawed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

JI7

(89,250 posts)
16. Obama who won both elections was accused of being Kumbayah by a certain shitty crowd
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:19 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Indygram

(2,113 posts)
17. I for one have had enough of the divisive attacking that we've had to deal with for so long
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:22 PM
Apr 2019

This crap is harming my health. I want a calm, rational voice to unite the country. I want HOPE, a positive vision and someone who doesn't waste their time attacking an idiot but uses that time wisely to stand FOR something. That's the only way to heal the country.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Fiendish Thingy

(15,619 posts)
18. Quite a mangled metaphor, but I like your list. Nt
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:25 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. I want someone.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:29 PM
Apr 2019

Who espouses achievable policies, speaks clearly and stand their ground.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
20. If you wanted to alliterate, should have been "Pugilist vs. pragmatist"
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 09:43 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
22. Mr Kamikaze! Mr DNA!
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:04 PM
Apr 2019

He’s an altruistic pervert!
Here to spread some genes!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
23. "Kamikaze" is not a very good term for what I think you intend.
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:28 PM
Apr 2019

Remember, the kamikazes were suicide pilots; they destroyed or damaged their targets but killed themselves in the process. Maybe that's not such a good idea for a political candidate.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

UniteFightBack

(8,231 posts)
24. BOTH...and BIDEN fits that bill. nt
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:30 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

peggysue2

(10,829 posts)
36. Agreed!
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 11:08 AM
Apr 2019

We need someone who can fight like hell when necessary as well as someone who can find common ground when possible.

Joe Biden fits that bill.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
26. There is only one person that can garner the greatest number of votes
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:40 PM
Apr 2019

to defeat the corrupt rethugs. Joe Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
28. Ah yes, because it's a one issue binary between ritualistic suicide and a woeful call for help. nt
Sat Apr 13, 2019, 10:53 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

murielm99

(30,742 posts)
29. I don't accept your list.
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 12:20 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
30. Fighter
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 12:23 AM
Apr 2019

And I think your list is pretty spot on.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Funtatlaguy

(10,878 posts)
34. Thanks, if I would have instead said Pugilist or Pragmatist
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 08:15 AM
Apr 2019

As someone here suggested, it might have been better received.
For those who disagree with the list, I’d like to see what changes they would make.
Mine was Just one persons opinion, of course.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
31. False choice imo. Warrior or
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 12:26 AM
Apr 2019

Why-can't-we-be-friends?

Warrior.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
33. I would love to believe
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 07:22 AM
Apr 2019

In arbitrary list categorizing candidates, but out of wisdom I will pass.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

dalton99a

(81,513 posts)
35. We want someone that can defeat the KKK nominee.
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 08:27 AM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

BlueFlorida

(1,532 posts)
37. Biden is not conciliatory and Bernie is not a fighter nt
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 12:42 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
38. Your classifications aren't accurate. I'm pretty sure all of them
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 12:53 PM
Apr 2019

understand that we want trump's bullshit overturned on day 1. Period.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

comradebillyboy

(10,151 posts)
39. We have more than the two choices set out in your false dichotomy.
Sun Apr 14, 2019, 01:03 PM
Apr 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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