Democratic Primaries
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primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Thekaspervote
(32,787 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
we can do it
(12,190 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)It will go on forever.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
honest.abe
(8,684 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)Joe/Kamala or Biden/Harris 2020!!
Either way they are stronger together & can't be bought!!!
Jump on the Biden Bandwagon & abandon the revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Well played.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)The Bernie torch fades.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)How many fingers am I holding up?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
lapucelle
(18,307 posts)The Democratic side, of course.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)The system runs on rules and regulations - Bernie changed those many of those rules to suit himself over and over and how dare he call the system "corrupt?"
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)THIS is what is costing him votes. THIS is why he's losing. THIS is why he won't be our party's nominee. THIS is why he won't be President.
You can fool some of the people... but he can't fool ALL of the people, and he certainly can't fool me.
I've had enough.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)said "Bernie plays dirty" and I can see why they said that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,568 posts)Bernie wasn't vetted in 2016.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TomCADem
(17,390 posts)...and now that she has dropped out of the race, I missed my chance.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pink
(497 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Moderateguy
(945 posts)That his rally is a sea of white faces in DETROIT
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)....and the attendees were a sea of white.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PatSeg
(47,568 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)crowd would be a sea of White people. The guy is just tone deaf to what affects the lives of everyday African Americans. He thinks that having Black crackpots like Cornell West backing him, he is speaking to rank and file African Americans.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Historic NY
(37,452 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I didn't see a single Black person in the part of the crowd that was visible. Detroit is a majority Black city.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
showblue22
(1,026 posts)They likely got bused in or are from neighboring areas.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I saw two African Americans total. There was a youngish Black guy in one of the photos. But yes, a Biden crowd would have been loaded with African American rally goers. But Sanders' crowd says a lot about who his ideas appeal to, people that don't have to worry about job discrimination much (unless they are female), who think about their kids going to college because they have properly funded PreK-12 schools, who can hate the big banks because they actually have access to enough money to set up checking and savings accounts, people that don't have to worry about gun violence every day - so they can afford to support a man who has been stout against controlling guns in society.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
former9thward
(32,068 posts)The size of any of Sanders.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Biden has his rallies at voting booths, and he is beating Sanders because of that fact.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Maru Kitteh
(28,342 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
betsuni
(25,598 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
musicblind
(4,484 posts)He may or may not win the nomination, but he's won a lot of hearts.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Recursion
(56,582 posts)A big rally is 20,000 people, or 3% of the population of Detroit. Even huge rally numbers are dwarfed by voting numbers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
A-Schwarzenegger
(15,596 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Black or African American: 78.64%
White: 14.55%
Other race: 2.92%
Two or more races: 1.95%
Asian: 1.57%
Native American: 0.34%
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.03%
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,489 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....largest public housing development, Queensbridge Houses? It's 60% black but the Sanders campaign didn't even consult with the tenants' association and never invited them to the rally RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET!!
It seems that they go out of their way to avoid dealing with African Americans.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)That might be an important detail, because as the New York Times notes, the rally was held at "a gentrifying slice of Queens". Like many neighborhoods that once boasted ethnic and economic diversity now facing the displacement of longtime poor and predominantly black and brown people, the residents of Queensbridge has been facing rising challenges from gentrification for years. While the issues that combine to create gentrification - housing affordability, migration, wage gaps, devaluation of non-tech work - are big and complex, high-income, largely white millennials are a key constituency for Sanders.
The Sanders campaign hit back against the accusations that they did not involve the community, saying that they tried to contact the Tenants Association and posted flyers. When asked by local media for a copy of the flyer, though, the campaign went silent. The campaign also wouldn't say just where those flyers were posted.
Some might say there were no flyers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,489 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Detroit is Black or African American: 78.64% and White: 14.55%. Metro/Suburban Detroit is 22.8% African American.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
musicblind
(4,484 posts)I didn't say it was representative.
Obviously, it is a self-selecting sample, and it is an example of supporter depth, not supporter breadth. Breadth is what's needed to win elections, and a lack of supporter breadth is why Sanders cannot win a large majority.
It's still an impressive picture, though.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)I'm not impressed.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Recursion
(56,582 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
George II
(67,782 posts)....at his rallies.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Talk about what the problem is, let someone else try to fix it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)But that is what happens when people come together only because they dislike something.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,405 posts)Thanks for the thread Donkees.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Uncle Joe
(58,405 posts)I didn't know he was a native of Detroit.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Uncle Joe
(58,405 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
PETRUS
(3,678 posts)My wife and I watched it last night. We were impressed by all of the speakers.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
George II
(67,782 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden