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Donkees

(31,450 posts)
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:06 PM Mar 2020

🔥 BERNIE RALLY IN DETROIT



WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON: You can’t change a corrupt system by taking its money. Our campaign is proudly by the working class and I will be a president for the working class. Live from Detroit with Rep. Rashida Tlaib, Dr. Cornel West and more:
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🔥 BERNIE RALLY IN DETROIT (Original Post) Donkees Mar 2020 OP
The Farewell Tour NurseJackie Mar 2020 #1
Ouch! Thekaspervote Mar 2020 #4
😂😹😂😹😂😹 we can do it Mar 2020 #7
And like every one of Cher's farewell tours tishaLA Mar 2020 #12
+1!!! honest.abe Mar 2020 #15
Adios, Au revoir, Sayonara, Dasvidaniya, Auf wiedersehen, Ciao bello NYMinute Mar 2020 #16
Прощай George II Mar 2020 #21
Это тоже! NYMinute Mar 2020 #22
Ooh. cwydro Mar 2020 #27
Good One NJ Me. Mar 2020 #52
I was looking forward to watching the rally in Jackson, Mississippi. Did I miss it already? George II Mar 2020 #2
Cancelled due to lack of interest. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #5
Not on the part of the people in Mississippi. George II Mar 2020 #8
Bingo! NurseJackie Mar 2020 #9
So it comes to "you are with us or against us" Watchfoxheadexplodes Mar 2020 #3
Wasn't that a george bushism? "You're either with us or you're against us." George II Mar 2020 #6
📸 Donkees Mar 2020 #10
I thought he went to Detroit to woo the black vote? Where are they? George II Mar 2020 #25
You didn't see that one young Black guy? Blue_true Mar 2020 #32
How else is Bernie going to get rid of all those shirts he had printed? n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #11
"Which side are you on"? ... lapucelle Mar 2020 #13
Thank you. I'm a loyal Democrat. I'm not a Socialist. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #14
It is beneath even Bernie to call his opponent corrupt and America's system corrupt NYMinute Mar 2020 #17
It's disgusting. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #19
Not one but two former Democratic governors of Vermont NYMinute Mar 2020 #20
Once again PatSeg Mar 2020 #28
Sadly Due to Coronavirus Concerns I Didn't See Warren's California Primary Rallies... TomCADem Mar 2020 #18
Sadly, Bernie comes across as a cranky old Independent from Vermont n/t pink Mar 2020 #23
Does anyone find it odd Moderateguy Mar 2020 #24
Based on past performances, no. He held a rally at a BLACK church in South Carolina.... George II Mar 2020 #26
Oh, ouch! PatSeg Mar 2020 #29
He could hold a rally in a Black person's home and the Blue_true Mar 2020 #34
Oh that was simply rich. Historic NY Mar 2020 #54
a rally during coronavirus outbreak?? AlexSFCA Mar 2020 #30
That picture points out the problem that Sanders has. Blue_true Mar 2020 #31
How is that Detroit? showblue22 Mar 2020 #33
Looks like the woman sitting down on the stage is African American. nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #35
One person in DETROIT. showblue22 Mar 2020 #36
Yeah, they likely would have been too anal to park in Detroit. Blue_true Mar 2020 #48
Maybe you can post a picture of a Biden rally. former9thward Mar 2020 #51
Size doesn't matter, that should be clear by now. Blue_true Mar 2020 #53
. . i . .see . .. . . white people . . .. . Maru Kitteh Mar 2020 #37
But Bernie says his "multigenerational, multiracial coalition" is sweeping the country! betsuni Mar 2020 #38
I've gotta admit, that crowd is impressive. musicblind Mar 2020 #39
That's the thing with rallies, though Recursion Mar 2020 #41
Respect. A-Schwarzenegger Mar 2020 #42
Is it representative of Detroit? (Fair question.) NurseJackie Mar 2020 #43
The crowd looks similar to that at his rally in South Carolina at an all-black church. George II Mar 2020 #45
That is a very white crowd Gothmog Mar 2020 #46
People be like... where the black-folk at? NurseJackie Mar 2020 #47
Remember that rally in Queens at Queensbridge Park, right across the street from North America's.... George II Mar 2020 #57
The campaign *said* there were flyers... but could not produce an example of the flyer. Curious, no? NurseJackie Mar 2020 #62
I and others are wondering about this also Gothmog Mar 2020 #58
Again... WHERE THE BLACK FOLKS AT? NurseJackie Mar 2020 #61
I said it was impressive. musicblind Mar 2020 #65
If it was representative, THAT would have been impressive. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #66
I wonder what would happen if Sanders spent this rally money on GOTV Recursion Mar 2020 #40
I remember a time when Sanders' people were complaining that the DNC wasn't registering voters.... George II Mar 2020 #44
But hasn't that been the outstanding hallmark of Sanders' political career? Blue_true Mar 2020 #50
His campaign seems to be really disorganized. Blue_true Mar 2020 #49
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #55
Cornell West is still following Bernie around? MineralMan Mar 2020 #56
Mayor of Jackson Mississippi Chokwe Antar Lumumba speaks at about the 1:15 mark, Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #59
Damn, he's good! Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #60
Yes, he was. PETRUS Mar 2020 #64
That's interesting, he was able to get to Detroit from Jackson, but Sanders couldn't get to Jackson. George II Mar 2020 #63
 

we can do it

(12,190 posts)
7. 😂😹😂😹😂😹
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:23 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
12. And like every one of Cher's farewell tours
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:28 PM
Mar 2020

It will go on forever.

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Undecided
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
16. Adios, Au revoir, Sayonara, Dasvidaniya, Auf wiedersehen, Ciao bello
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:38 PM
Mar 2020





Joe/Kamala or Biden/Harris 2020!!
Either way they are stronger together & can't be bought!!!
Jump on the Biden Bandwagon & abandon the revolution!!
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George II

(67,782 posts)
2. I was looking forward to watching the rally in Jackson, Mississippi. Did I miss it already?
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:13 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
5. Cancelled due to lack of interest.
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:22 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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George II

(67,782 posts)
8. Not on the part of the people in Mississippi.
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:23 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)
3. So it comes to "you are with us or against us"
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:21 PM
Mar 2020

The Bernie torch fades.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
6. Wasn't that a george bushism? "You're either with us or you're against us."
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:23 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
25. I thought he went to Detroit to woo the black vote? Where are they?
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:20 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
32. You didn't see that one young Black guy?
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 01:20 AM
Mar 2020

How many fingers am I holding up?

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zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
11. How else is Bernie going to get rid of all those shirts he had printed? n/t
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:27 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

lapucelle

(18,307 posts)
13. "Which side are you on"? ...
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:29 PM
Mar 2020

The Democratic side, of course.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
14. Thank you. I'm a loyal Democrat. I'm not a Socialist.
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:31 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
17. It is beneath even Bernie to call his opponent corrupt and America's system corrupt
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:41 PM
Mar 2020

The system runs on rules and regulations - Bernie changed those many of those rules to suit himself over and over and how dare he call the system "corrupt?"

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
19. It's disgusting.
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:43 PM
Mar 2020

THIS is what is costing him votes. THIS is why he's losing. THIS is why he won't be our party's nominee. THIS is why he won't be President.

You can fool some of the people... but he can't fool ALL of the people, and he certainly can't fool me.

I've had enough.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
20. Not one but two former Democratic governors of Vermont
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:47 PM
Mar 2020

said "Bernie plays dirty" and I can see why they said that.

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PatSeg

(47,568 posts)
28. Once again
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 11:37 PM
Mar 2020

Bernie wasn't vetted in 2016.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
18. Sadly Due to Coronavirus Concerns I Didn't See Warren's California Primary Rallies...
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:42 PM
Mar 2020

...and now that she has dropped out of the race, I missed my chance.

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pink

(497 posts)
23. Sadly, Bernie comes across as a cranky old Independent from Vermont n/t
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:56 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Moderateguy

(945 posts)
24. Does anyone find it odd
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 09:22 PM
Mar 2020

That his rally is a sea of white faces in DETROIT

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George II

(67,782 posts)
26. Based on past performances, no. He held a rally at a BLACK church in South Carolina....
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 10:22 PM
Mar 2020

....and the attendees were a sea of white.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
34. He could hold a rally in a Black person's home and the
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 01:27 AM
Mar 2020

crowd would be a sea of White people. The guy is just tone deaf to what affects the lives of everyday African Americans. He thinks that having Black crackpots like Cornell West backing him, he is speaking to rank and file African Americans.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Historic NY

(37,452 posts)
54. Oh that was simply rich.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 02:59 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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AlexSFCA

(6,139 posts)
30. a rally during coronavirus outbreak??
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 12:14 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
31. That picture points out the problem that Sanders has.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 01:18 AM
Mar 2020

I didn't see a single Black person in the part of the crowd that was visible. Detroit is a majority Black city.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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showblue22

(1,026 posts)
33. How is that Detroit?
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 01:25 AM
Mar 2020

It looks like Iowa.




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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
35. Looks like the woman sitting down on the stage is African American. nt
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 01:30 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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showblue22

(1,026 posts)
36. One person in DETROIT.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 01:47 AM
Mar 2020

They likely got bused in or are from neighboring areas.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
48. Yeah, they likely would have been too anal to park in Detroit.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 02:03 PM
Mar 2020

I saw two African Americans total. There was a youngish Black guy in one of the photos. But yes, a Biden crowd would have been loaded with African American rally goers. But Sanders' crowd says a lot about who his ideas appeal to, people that don't have to worry about job discrimination much (unless they are female), who think about their kids going to college because they have properly funded PreK-12 schools, who can hate the big banks because they actually have access to enough money to set up checking and savings accounts, people that don't have to worry about gun violence every day - so they can afford to support a man who has been stout against controlling guns in society.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

former9thward

(32,068 posts)
51. Maybe you can post a picture of a Biden rally.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 02:30 PM
Mar 2020

The size of any of Sanders.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
53. Size doesn't matter, that should be clear by now.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 02:41 PM
Mar 2020

Biden has his rallies at voting booths, and he is beating Sanders because of that fact.

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Maru Kitteh

(28,342 posts)
37. . . i . .see . .. . . white people . . .. .
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 02:01 AM
Mar 2020
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betsuni

(25,598 posts)
38. But Bernie says his "multigenerational, multiracial coalition" is sweeping the country!
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 02:04 AM
Mar 2020
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musicblind

(4,484 posts)
39. I've gotta admit, that crowd is impressive.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 02:32 AM
Mar 2020

He may or may not win the nomination, but he's won a lot of hearts.

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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
41. That's the thing with rallies, though
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 02:39 AM
Mar 2020

A big rally is 20,000 people, or 3% of the population of Detroit. Even huge rally numbers are dwarfed by voting numbers.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
43. Is it representative of Detroit? (Fair question.)
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 09:56 AM
Mar 2020


Detroit Demographics

Black or African American: 78.64%
White: 14.55%
Other race: 2.92%
Two or more races: 1.95%
Asian: 1.57%
Native American: 0.34%
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.03%
If I were to vote in a presidential
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George II

(67,782 posts)
45. The crowd looks similar to that at his rally in South Carolina at an all-black church.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 10:07 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Gothmog

(145,489 posts)
46. That is a very white crowd
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 10:15 AM
Mar 2020
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
47. People be like... where the black-folk at?
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 10:19 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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George II

(67,782 posts)
57. Remember that rally in Queens at Queensbridge Park, right across the street from North America's....
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 03:06 PM
Mar 2020

....largest public housing development, Queensbridge Houses? It's 60% black but the Sanders campaign didn't even consult with the tenants' association and never invited them to the rally RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET!!

It seems that they go out of their way to avoid dealing with African Americans.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
62. The campaign *said* there were flyers... but could not produce an example of the flyer. Curious, no?
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 03:35 PM
Mar 2020
https://patch.com/new-york/astoria-long-island-city/queensbridge-residents-say-they-didnt-know-sanders-rally

According to the president of the Queensbridge Tenants Association, the campaign contacted the association just a day before the rally. The people at the rally weren't from the community, looked like tourists, and were attending what was a "pretty white" event that "wasn't for us", local community leaders told the local news media.

That might be an important detail, because as the New York Times notes, the rally was held at "a gentrifying slice of Queens". Like many neighborhoods that once boasted ethnic and economic diversity now facing the displacement of longtime poor and predominantly black and brown people, the residents of Queensbridge has been facing rising challenges from gentrification for years. While the issues that combine to create gentrification - housing affordability, migration, wage gaps, devaluation of non-tech work - are big and complex, high-income, largely white millennials are a key constituency for Sanders.

The Sanders campaign hit back against the accusations that they did not involve the community, saying that they tried to contact the Tenants Association and posted flyers. When asked by local media for a copy of the flyer, though, the campaign went silent. The campaign also wouldn't say just where those flyers were posted.

Some might say there were no flyers.
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Gothmog

(145,489 posts)
58. I and others are wondering about this also
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 03:12 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
61. Again... WHERE THE BLACK FOLKS AT?
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 03:21 PM
Mar 2020

Detroit is Black or African American: 78.64% and White: 14.55%. Metro/Suburban Detroit is 22.8% African American.

EXTRA LARGE PHOTO:


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If I were to vote in a presidential
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musicblind

(4,484 posts)
65. I said it was impressive.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 05:21 PM
Mar 2020

I didn't say it was representative.

Obviously, it is a self-selecting sample, and it is an example of supporter depth, not supporter breadth. Breadth is what's needed to win elections, and a lack of supporter breadth is why Sanders cannot win a large majority.

It's still an impressive picture, though.

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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
66. If it was representative, THAT would have been impressive.
Sun Mar 8, 2020, 06:23 PM
Mar 2020

I'm not impressed.

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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
40. I wonder what would happen if Sanders spent this rally money on GOTV
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 02:38 AM
Mar 2020
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George II

(67,782 posts)
44. I remember a time when Sanders' people were complaining that the DNC wasn't registering voters....
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 10:06 AM
Mar 2020

....at his rallies.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
50. But hasn't that been the outstanding hallmark of Sanders' political career?
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 02:15 PM
Mar 2020

Talk about what the problem is, let someone else try to fix it.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
49. His campaign seems to be really disorganized.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 02:10 PM
Mar 2020

But that is what happens when people come together only because they dislike something.

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Uncle Joe

(58,405 posts)
55. Kicked and recommended.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 03:00 PM
Mar 2020

Thanks for the thread Donkees.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

MineralMan

(146,325 posts)
56. Cornell West is still following Bernie around?
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 03:05 PM
Mar 2020
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Uncle Joe

(58,405 posts)
59. Mayor of Jackson Mississippi Chokwe Antar Lumumba speaks at about the 1:15 mark,
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 03:12 PM
Mar 2020

I didn't know he was a native of Detroit.

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Undecided
 

PETRUS

(3,678 posts)
64. Yes, he was.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 04:10 PM
Mar 2020

My wife and I watched it last night. We were impressed by all of the speakers.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Undecided
 

George II

(67,782 posts)
63. That's interesting, he was able to get to Detroit from Jackson, but Sanders couldn't get to Jackson.
Sat Mar 7, 2020, 03:43 PM
Mar 2020
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