Democratic Primaries
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https://www.motherjones.com/2020-elections/2020/03/ocasio-cortez-biden/-snip-
A lot of people are saying now that Look were basically down to two candidates, and everyones worried if one wins, will the supporters of the other sort of agree to support the Democratic nominee, Seth Meyers said on Late Night. Is it safe to assume that you will support Joe Biden if he is the nominee?
Yeah, Ive said throughout this entire process that what is so important is that we ultimately unite behind who that Democratic nominee is, she continued, noting that shes also witnessed the same refusal from Bidens camp. Ive been concerned by some folks that say if Bernies the nominee, they wont support him and the other way around.
Right now, November, this is more important than all of us and we really need to make sure that we defeat Donald Trump at the polls.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
KPN
(15,646 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
KSNY
(315 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Proud Veteran
(35 posts)538 has Biden at 87.5% of winning outright thus no brokered convention.
Also after next Tuesday and Bernie gets a beat down in Michigan it will be virtually over.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)refreshing. Turner appears quite willing to destroy everything if Sanders does not prevail. It is frightening and disheartening.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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calimary
(81,310 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)She'll go third party again. (I think that's why she was hired in the first place.) It's clear to everyone that having Nina Turner (a Stein-loving, Stein-supporting, Stein-voting) on staff was yet another backhanded slaps and insults, and a great big "fuck you" message to the Democrats and the Democratic party. Nina Turner is certainly giving her all and earning her salary. She's so toxic and venomous.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
J_William_Ryan
(1,753 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)Don't you think there are deeper issues that have come to the fore over the past two or three decades? Issues that desperately need attention?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Moderateguy
(945 posts)Those issues won't matter
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Perseus
(4,341 posts)Our differences between the two candidates must become our strengths, we need to clean up government of the trash that has taken over in the WH.
We may not agree with what has happened, some of us may even be disgusted to some of the things that have happened, but we must put that aside, try to forget about it because four more years of these crooks will be devastating.
Well said.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Unless you think Trump is going to do the right thing on any of them. So it doesn't matter how great a candidate's proposals are if he can't win. In that sense, defeating Trump is all that matters.
Sadly, I'm not sure either of our remaining candidates is all that strong against Trump. They both have weaknesses for different reasons.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
moonscape
(4,673 posts)about cheating. Biden can win handily in a fair election, but that's not what we're up against.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)that the person I considered to be the worst Democrat running for the nomination would get my vote if they got the nomination. ABT!! (Anyone But Trump)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Butterflylady
(3,544 posts)But a good majority can see that getting rid of trump is our main concern. If we don't, all those issues that you are concerned about are moot. There won't be a country or a democracy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Perseus
(4,341 posts)Moscow-Mitch
Barr must be disbarred and indicted for lying to the country
Jordan
Nunes
Graham (He has been quiet as of late)
the trump kids
Kushnar
Pompeo
Investigate, disbar and indict Guiliani
And the list goes on...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
hangaleft
(649 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
demosincebirth
(12,540 posts)Issues wont matter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
empedocles
(15,751 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)Thats very telling.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
John Fante
(3,479 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
empedocles
(15,751 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Unlike other radical progressives in the past, who have hurt the party by either running as a Green or primarying moderates in swing states/districts, she's going about trying to effect progressive change the right way - by being disruptive and challenging the party leadership when necessary but not when it's going to help Republicans. She's a thorn in Pelosi and the DCCC's side and not shy about calling the party leadership out for policies that favor centrists over progressives or give corporate lobbyists too much access, but she's not willing to burn the house down to do it. I like that she supports progressive challengers to incumbent House Democrats but only in safe districts that should have a more progressive representative.
I'm hoping that she has enough credibility with at least a large chunk of Bernie's supporters to bring them along if he doesn't get the nomination. Although she might have been in a better position to do so if she'd waited until the end of the primaries or until Bernie dropped out to say this.
Also, good on her for calling out those who said they wouldn't support Bernie when it looked like he might be the nominee. I saw at least as much of that in February as Bernie supporters in 2016 or 2020 saying they wouldn't support the nominee if it wasn't Bernie.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
RobertDevereaux
(1,857 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Turin_C3PO
(14,004 posts)She has a big future in our party. I wouldnt be surprised if she ran for President some day.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,237 posts)then her career will end.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(14,004 posts)she realizes that Biden would be miles better than Trump. Shes actually a pretty practical progressive. She supported Pelosi for the House Leadership when many far lefters were urging her not to.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
empedocles
(15,751 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Moderateguy
(945 posts)The progressive agenda is going no where until we have power. Burning down the party only gives power to to other side and that does not help the progressive agenda
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)And that, while she'd prefer Bernie, even if her first choice doesn't make it, she's fine with Biden in the White House.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
TexasTowelie
(112,237 posts)but I'm more inclined to think of the golfer that throws up a bit of grass into the air to determine which direction the wind is blowing.
AOC has two things to consider--the first is that she has to survive her own primary in April and the second is that her district isn't carved unfavorably for her since New York is projected to lose one seat after the census. If she doesn't show some flexibility then she becomes a vulnerable target.
I do consider it to be a shrewd move to make this statement.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ace Rothstein
(3,163 posts)She is popular in her district and has raised some serious cash. She's not going to lose her seat.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
still_one
(92,217 posts)vote for the Democratic nominee, whoever it is in my opinion
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
oasis
(49,389 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Refusing to debate would be pretty balsy for a candidate who not only was left for dead a week ago, but also has earned less than 1/3 of the votes he needs so far to win the nomination.
We have yet to have a one-on-one debate between the two candidates who will be the only choice (or the only choice with any chance whatsoever of getting the nomination) for more than half of the primary voters. I think those of us in later states, who already got screwed by the media's "two lanes out of [state]" and "must consolidate the moderate wing" crap pushing so many candidates out of the race, deserve to at least have the opportunity to see the two choices we have left in a one-on-one debate or two before we have to decide between two candidates who were not the first choice for many of us.
I haven't decided who I'm voting for now that Warren is out, but if Biden acts like it's over and refuses to debate Bernie almost 2 months before my state's primary, and/or can't be bothered to campaign in my state, then Bernie's getting my vote for sure.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
oasis
(49,389 posts)from any of his past grandiose proposals. Biden can forge ahead an tally up votes without being sullied by the same old Bernie attacks about the Iraq War, big donor contributions etc..
Trump voters don't give a damn about anything Bernie will have to say against Joe.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
We need a debate. A lot of people are still Undecided. Exit polls on Super Tuesday showed that many people made up their minds at the last minute. We have not had one real debate between the two leading candidates.
A two person debate is completely different from having 12 people up on the stage. Anyway, we have a debate scheduled March 15th. People have a right to see both of their candidates make their case and question each other.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
William769
(55,147 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
barbtries
(28,798 posts)compared to the other way around is miniscule. On the other hand, 2 of my sons and the girlfriend of one are for Bernie, and they both already said they'll vote for Biden if he's the nominee. they were insulted that i asked actually, probably because none of them are active on twitter.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,217 posts)The Supreme Court if nothing else
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
barbtries
(28,798 posts)there is also a poll out there, you can google it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sympthsical
(9,074 posts)If we have to hash out every random tweeter, one should aspire to be fair about it.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
barbtries
(28,798 posts)no doubt there are those as well. i don't get either side, considering the alternative.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Sympthsical
(9,074 posts)Ill vote for whomever we pick. Trump should be impetus enough for everyone.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)McConnell is JUST AS DANGEROUS IF NOT MORE SO THAN TRUMP.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
totodeinhere
(13,058 posts)two years.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)pro-active on the ground. But I agree, it takes time and we should use it wisely to get our message across and build trust.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)exactly what do you gain by belittling her?
especially since she is working for democratic unity
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Alex4Martinez
(2,193 posts)It's still a tight race with remaining primaries.
Let people vote.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)your man or woman.
otherwise we are doomed
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ancianita
(36,070 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)But hopefully most won't. I looked at JPR yesterday and didn't see any threads bashing her after she said this.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
ancianita
(36,070 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brutus smith
(685 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Botany
(70,516 posts)I might be wrong but Bernie is going to lose Michigan & Mississippi on 3/10 and then
get hammered on 3/17 in Florida after which he will drop out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
deurbano
(2,895 posts)Whether he'll drop out is another story...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Botany
(70,516 posts)If he stays in it would just be for vanity, ego, and a nice pay day from Vlad (only kidding on #3)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
deurbano
(2,895 posts)In a world that was really "Not Me. Us.", the guy who had a heart attack (while campaigning at 88!) would have gracefully withdrawn to enthusiastically throw his support behind the candidate with the most similar ideology--who also happens to be much more competent and practical (while still moving the ball forward), and with a better track record of accomplishments. (IMHO.)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Botany
(70,516 posts)... he didn't say shit aka he took the help and kept his mouth shut. Just my thoughts on the subject.
BTW when the news came out about Russia helping Bernie's campaign didTrump get upset
with Russia? Oh hell no he got upset and fired the good Americans who found out about it
and told the American people.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
deurbano
(2,895 posts)but he didn't say that when finally forced to cop to it-- by the paper he then accused of revealing it for political reasons. He just said he gets a lot of briefings. (Nothing about that one stood out?) Meanwhile, Biden kept getting smeared by the Russian/Trump attack.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Celerity
(43,408 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)He's 78, not 88.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
deurbano
(2,895 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Cha
(297,298 posts)sentence, Botany.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Moderateguy
(945 posts)What the M$M does not tell you is that she is in real danger of losing her primary. She has done very little for her constituency while trying to be a thorn in Pelosi's side--not the wisest thing to do for a 1st term congressperson
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Squinch
(50,955 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
H2O Man
(73,559 posts)That has never been a question.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Happy Hoosier
(7,314 posts)Idealism is great. But we must keep our eyes focused on the immediate objective as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Cha
(297,298 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Greenwald and Walker Bragman are going to absolutely lose their shit
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)What has she had to learn? I don't think she's ever indicated she wouldn't support the eventual nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NCProgressive
(1,315 posts)she will have earned my respect.
On edit, I hope she means it and is not saying it because she is terrified of Biden's juggernaut in her primary election les Biden endorse Michelle Caruso Cabrera who has a phenomenal shot at winning NY-14.
https://michellecc2020.com/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)More evidence of such.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)Conflict within the party gets heated, but no matter what happens, we remain Democrats.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden