Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumNow that everything has settled down after super Tuesday
I'm starting to feel a little deflated. I have watched every democratic debate since when they had so many excellent candidates they had to hold them over 2 nights. Dont get me wrong, I like Joe Biden, but I think that he and Bernie Sanders are too old. Its impossible to imagine that either one of them will see out 8 years, which puts the democratic party through another series of primaries in 4 years time.
I would like to see the party put an age limit on presidential candidates.
Its a shame that money controls the length of time you can stay in the race. Now we're down to 2 old men representing the democrats and 1 old man representing the republicans.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,629 posts)How did we get from a talented, diverse group of people down to these two old men? I mean, really!
Of course, the ones who've dropped out have broken new ground and some of them will be back.
They've introduced some new ideas and it's been great watching them jostle and argue among themselves.
Here's to their futures..........and ours!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pink
(497 posts)We may only need to wait 4 more years before we see some of those discarded great contenders back again. I was thinking of you during the California primary. I imagine you either voted for Joe, or voted early for Buttigieg.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,629 posts)I had no idea that Pete was going to drop out, but even if I had known, I would still have voted for Pete.
I am part of a local group for Pete and I've been sending donations for months. To vote for anyone else would have been a complete betrayal of what Pete stood for, and for what I believed.
I hope/think you may be right about having only to wait four years for him to run again. I'll still be alive! (I'll be nearly 80!)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pink
(497 posts)We may see Pete play a role as veep or secretary of state. Speaking so many languages, he would be ideal for the role. It would give him a bigger profile so as to prepare for his next run.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,629 posts)Yes, all the languages would certainly be an advantage for SOS. He will certainly lose the "inexperienced" label, no matter where Biden puts him.
And that makes me glad.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,042 posts)Pete is the party's future. His Rhodes scholar, multilingual background, well-spoken and brilliant mind are all great qualities for SoS. I'd prefer a woman (Kamala or Amy) for the VEEP position.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,147 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Obama would be cruising to his fourth term.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
William769
(55,147 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)It sucks, because it was created to stop great democratic presidents from getting more than two terms.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,042 posts)till he keels over. Plus you know the republicans will abuse the no-term limits allowance. Not a good idea.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
NYMinute
(3,256 posts)This is an unusual year and facing Trump, people feel safe in the hands of Biden, a seasoned and experienced leader.
People just want to win.
And, realistically, it is down to only Joe Biden. Bernie has no chance.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue no matter who.
OLD AND BLUE WILL DO!
-Laelth
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Stallion
(6,474 posts)just vote for the Democrat so this magnificent warrior can enjoy a well earned retirement-I just don't get this attitude with so much at stake. There's only about a Million reasons you can latch onto to dump Trump. Find one and motivate yourself
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)To replace her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Gorsuch is 53 for comparison.
Im talking late 40s.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)And eventually the Republican strategy of choosing to be the party of white evangelicals is going to crash and burn. Maybe this year.
They had a chance after Obama won in 2012 to moderate their policies to appeal to a more moderate electorate but the tea party had too much of a hold. Its going to take a decade or so but they are in a demographic cul-de-sac. And Im not talking just about people of color. Young people are rejecting evangelicals rapidly. Already we have more non-religious than evangelicals. Its only going to get worse for them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,042 posts)great at, such as helping Dems get elected, forming young new Dems leaders, philanthropic work, etc.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
onetexan
(13,042 posts)replacement for RBG. She's trying to hang in there till a Dem POTUS can appoint a new one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pink
(497 posts)had approached Ruth about retiring, but she said no. Its probably just as well now, because with hindsight McConnell may not have let him pick a replacement Supreme Court judge. Lets just hope that she keeps on keeping on.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)She herself was confirmed easily in the early 90's because she was replacing a liberal justice. But flipping Scalia's seat even to a moderate was what McConnell was desperate to stop.
That said, once he got away with blocking Garland who knows if he'll now pull the same stunt even when liberal justices retire?
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)I see Biden handing off a lot to VP. And how I ma looking at it is Biden won't stay past four years and hand off to the VP. He will get the Republicans that can't stomach Trump. Tighten up ACA again, and if we have House and senate move forward on that. Nothing shattering, but fixin'.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pink
(497 posts)Tracey Abrams (I think thats her name), Pete Buttigieg or Amy Klobuchar. The veep role has never been more important.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)I'm torn, not about which Democratic woman would make the best VP, but about who will make our ticket the strongest. Everyone of our former presidential candidates (well, except for Tulsi Gabbard) would be a great VP pick. I'm now thinking about which one will bring in the most votes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
frazzled
(18,402 posts)tonight I went to a symphony concert and the guest conductor was 92 years old! (distinguished Swedish conductor Herbert Bromfeldt.) He stood on the podium and brilliantly conducted the orchestra for an hour and a half ... without using a score.
Okay, I realize that this is freakishly unusual. I still wish our candidates were not so old, but the people have spoken, and these are the guys (emphasis on guys) that we have to work with when we vote in the upcoming contests. Lets make lemonade, and try not to be ageist. (It was equally ageist to continually call Mayor Pete too young.)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pink
(497 posts)He was always my first choice. I saw him being interviewed in early 2018 and I knew he was the one. Unfortunately not everyone felt the same way. Anyway, unlike the 2 old white men that are left, he has plenty of time.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)He didn't get the bounce he otherwise would have out of Iowa due to the problems with counting, and then Klobuchar's strong debate performance in New Hampshire probably cost him an upset victory in that state.
I wish he had at least stayed in until Super Tuesday, though I understand why he dropped out when he did.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
brush
(53,787 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)I haven't decided who I'm voting for but I'm not thrilled with either choice. It's sad that we started out with such a diverse field and ended up with two old white guys.
I don't agree about putting an age limit on who can run, though. That would run counter to our values as a party. Democrats are the ones who fought for passage of the ADEA that prohibits most employers from doing exactly what you are advocating.
OTOH, I think the party should take a hard look at whether anything can be changed going forward to avoid a repeat of what happened this year, with so many good candidates having to drop out before the first votes were cast. Maybe the early debate rules were too restrictive, or maybe not restrictive enough? I wasn't paying that much attention last year so I can't say.
Having more states go first would also be a big help, IMO. Maybe group the states into regions that take turns going first.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BusyBeingBest
(8,054 posts)You look around and shrug and go, "I guess this is it now" if you weren't excited for either Sanders or Biden. Going to be a long spring and summer.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)At some point everyone is going to have to set their grievances aside for the greater good.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden