Elizabeth Warren for VP!

[spooky3]

She would be a great “attack dog” and would shred Pence OR Haley on the debate stage, in addition to all of her other qualifications.

[squirecam]

1. No. Massachusetts has a Republican Governor.

We can’t lose her seat.

[spooky3]

6. You might be interested in this workaround:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/warren-or-sanders-presidency-could-cost-democrats-senate-seat-n1032421

[squirecam]

10. No. I'm not interested in gaming the system.

That just leads to more gaming the system.

Warren should be fighting for her ideas. In the senate.

[itsrobert]

7. How Democrats could work around a Warren vacancy

How Democrats could work around a Warren vacancy
Yet there is a possible workaround in Massachusetts that could shorten the window for a Republican appointment and a special election if Warren becomes president.

Under state law, an outgoing senator could file a letter of resignation, triggering the 145- to 160-day period to hold a special election — but not make the resignation effective until a later date.

So Warren could file that letter the day after Election Day — or even earlier during the general-election campaign — to expedite the date of the special election and minimize the time of any Republican replacement.

This scenario was floated when Warren was a vice presidential possibility for Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Clinton ended up picking Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., as her running mate.

[link:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/warren-or-sanders-presidency-could-cost-democrats-senate-seat-n1032421|

[Hoyt]

2. It has to be a woman, but there are other, arguably better, choices.

[blm]

3. She can sound angelic, but against corruption she turns into an assassin.

That is what I wanted this fall and facing down Trump.

The sweetest kittens have the sharpest claws.

[NYMinute]

4. Any of our candidates (except a couple)

would make great VPs. Tough decision for Biden.

The best decision for Biden is to choose Barack Obama as VP to restore the country. It will be an unbeatable ticket.

[spooky3]

8. I think the Constitution prohibits this, doesn't it? Nt

[squirecam]

11. It's sorta unclear. But really it's a no.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/former-president-becomes-vice-president/

[Moderateguy]

14. BO is not eligible

The VP has to be able to become President at 12 noon on Inauguration Day if needed

[NYMinute]

17. He is ... he cannot run for an election for POTUS

but he can be a VP and eligible to be a POTUS again the same way a VP becomes POTUS.

No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.

As long as he is not "elected" it is ok.

[squirecam]

18. Not necessarily

Look at the link I posted above.

[William769]

25. It would set off a constitutional crisis. nt

[sandensea]

28. And it would give the Chump/Dense campaign the perfect opening for a Supreme Court challenge

The current Rethug majority would rule against the Biden/Obama ticket - and you can bet they'd do it just days before the election, to make sure Democrats can't react accordingly.

They would of course make the ruling a one-off - à la Bush v. Gore.

For appearances, you know?

[AncientGeezer]

27. No...it's not even vauge...not open for debate and not "ok"

VP is also an elected position....SCOTUS would kill this 9-0

[Progressive2020]

5. I Think

I think Kamala Harris would be a good choice...there are others too...we will see what happens...I like Warren a lot, but as others have pointed out, we can not afford to lose her Senate seat...

[squirecam]

19. Harris is qualified.

But she would better as AG prosecuting the Trump criminals.

[relayerbob]

9. Nope

Val Demings
Stacey Abrams
Kamala Harris

the list can go on for some ways

I would like to see Liz as Seate Majority leader personally

[squirecam]

13. Only Harris is ready to be President on day 1.

But I prefer her as AG and prosecuting the trump criminals.

Amy is going to get strong consideration. She is ready. Has the same policy positions, and is from the Midwest.

[relayerbob]

15. I agree Harris as AG

Amy will get strong consideration, but given that African Americans saved the day, and possibly our planet, they need a very significant seat at the table

[squirecam]

16. Let's be absolutely clear on things.

AA voters did help Biden in the southern states. But without Amy and Pete dropping out, Sanders would be far ahead today. Biden would be trying to figure out how to catch up. Amy delivered him Minnesota, and they helped him in getting larger margins in all states, including CA, TX, MA and the like.

Biden needs AA voters. But he has them, and the way to repay them is to enact policies that help them. Not tokenism.

Biden is also trying to win a general election. He has to win white suburban women in the Midwest. Amy speaks to these moderate women.

We also need a VP who is ready on day one. I’m sorry, but many of the AA picks being floated don’t have the necessary national experience.

Electing a qualified woman as VP would be a historic achievement. But what absolutely positively should not happen is picking a less qualified woman on the basis of skin color.

Harris is much better suited to be AG. But she is qualified to be VP.

I think Amy helps the ticket better with the independents and moderate republicans we need to win in November. The AA base is already going to stand behind Biden.

Pelosi said it best. You don’t pick Nancy because she’s a woman, you pick her because she would best for the job.

[Demsrule86]

21. Amy would be a great choice...and maybe she can help with the blue wall.

[relayerbob]

22. This is not tokenism, whatever you may think

If you think that, then your issue is with you, not me.

None of the people I've suggested are in any way unqualified. I personally think our government needs to have a MUCH higher proportion of anything other than old, white guys in it. In fact, I've repeatedly stated before something to the effect that grey hair, white skin and a dick are my first criteria for de-selecting that candidate, lol. I am an old white guy. Sorry, but we have seriously fucked things up. Others my age will try to avoid taking responsibility, but I will not. However, we don't have that option anymore.

The VP, by design, does not have specific roles, and as such is an excellent platform to provide that experience and platform to talented people, those fully capable of the role, who would not otherwise gain national experience. And frankly, beyond Biden, not a single person in the race has a clue as to what a President does, so none of them are any more or less ready to "do the job" (presumably as President) on Day 1. Not a single one. No (sane) President has ever said that they were prepared for what hit them when they took office. And, TBH, I'm not sure I want life-long politicians cluttering up the White House, in any case. Don't we have enough of that already?

I actually think Amy belongs in the Senate where she is now, because we need someone with the ability to bring the Brett Kavanaughs of the world to tears, as she aptly did. To me, the VP, despite its title, is in effect a demotion for a Senator in many ways, since there is no real role for them, beyond what the President tells them to do. They can't create legislation, they can't confirm justices, they can't approve spending, and on and on. However, I fully support Pete, Amy and anyone else, OF ANY STATURE, to help our country by taking any role they need to fill in the White House.

To ignore qualified, talented people, simply because they are unknown and black, is worse than any tokenism argument I can think of.

In any case, I think we are really in "violent agreement" here, arguing details about issues we both basically agree on.

[squirecam]

23. The role of VP is twofold.

One, be the top surrogate for the president. That’s to win the election and during the administration.

Two, be absolutely 100% ready to take over day 1.

Sarah Palin was beloved by rethugs. Excited their base like no other. But she was not ready to be President. Not even close.

I hope Biden picks a lot of qualified people for his cabinet. They can be women or men. But pick the best people qualified for the job.

Exciting the base is *not* a consideration for these qualifications. Our base is going to crawl over broken glass to get rid of Trump. But they are not enough.

This is going to be a close election. Very close. And we need to understand that, and pick the most qualified person that will speak to the moderate suburban women in the Midwest that we need to win, just like in 2018. That’s Amy.

[relayerbob]

24. That would be your choice, not mine

although she would be fine in that role, also. I just think there are better roles for her.

I would hardly compare any of the women I selected to Sarah Palin. To suggest that is an insult to all three. For example, Val wasn't picked to be impeachment manager because she wore pretty shoes that day. C'mon

In any case, the presidential candidate who wins will make the decision

[squirecam]

26. Val needs some national experience.

Anything she brings to the table, Harris does better. More nationally well known. More experience nationally/statewide races won. Has been nationally vetted. Ready to be VP day one.

[whathehell]

32. You're not seriously comparing Warren to Sarah Palin, are you?

That would tell me you really know nothing about Elizabeth Warren.

As for a VP pick, Warren is at LEAST as qualified as Klobuchar. She surpasses her in experience and, imo, intellectual heft..

By the way, I am a midwestern suburban woman.

[squirecam]

33. Warren is HIGHLY qualified.

But Massachusetts has a rethug Governor. We can’t lose that seat.

Plus, Biden has already said he wants someone that agrees with him on policy. That’s not Warren.

In order for you to understand my thinking, had Warren won, my top choice for her would have been Sherrod Brown. Because he meshes with her on policy and Midwest roots.

[dflprincess]

12. No. She is more valuable in the Senate where she'd have some independence

not VP where she'd be expected to sing back up.

Besides, I don't think having two people over 70 on the ticket is a good move.

[Demsrule86]

20. She would be a great choice.

[frazzled]

29. It's not going to be anybody you think it is

It never is. We go through this guessing game every election cycle. We’re always wrong.

[pattyloutwo]

30. Yes, she should get it

She deserves it after her work she’s accomplished, and women deserve fair representation which we’re not getting. Then, like many sexist work environments, she can do the work, and he can take the credit.

[question everything]

31. NO! There has to be some harmony between the two

And I cannot see Warren, nor Harris, for that matter being second to no one.

And while, Harris, as a state AG has executive experience, Warren has none.

[whathehell]

34. YES!

too much 'harmony' is boring, and Warren is brilliant enough to handle whatever is thrown at her.

[question everything]

35. Perhaps not harmony, but agreement on major issues

Warren wants free medical care, free college and free others. Biden does not.

If the worse happens and she is called to be the president will she, then, push for programs to which he objects?

[whathehell]

37. Let's clarify something, okay?

Last edited Sat Mar 7, 2020, 01:00 AM - Edit history (1)

Neither Warren, nor.anyone else is seeking "free" medical care or
"free" college, etc There's no such thing --.As with every other developed country in the world, those would be tax supported.

[gldstwmn]

36. I'd rather not see her on this ticket

It's best for her to continue her work in the Senate and run again at at later date