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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:48 PM Mar 2020

'Michigan or bust' for Sanders - and it's going to be bust.....😎💙

All the digital ink spilled about Super Tuesday is fawning over former Vice President Joe Biden and his miraculous comeback. But the fact is that Biden’s winning comes down to two things. First, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is a weak candidate whose success was built on quirks in the Democratic nominating process, not on real popularity. Second, simply existing while all others fail is a winning strategy for Biden.

Let’s start by establishing that the Democratic race is over. Biden will be the nominee, and he will win on the first ballot. The only chance Sanders has is if he can win the Midwest states he won in 2016 (plus the ones he didn’t) — which makes Michigan a must-win state for him. But it doesn’t look at all favorable for him in the Wolverine State — or anywhere else in the Midwest. (Raise your hand if you thought Biden would steamroll through the Democratic field — just a hand or two, maybe, and let’s forget February.)Sanders has one last shot: He must win Michigan — and continue to win in the Midwest. But Michigan and the Midwest are very much a long shot for him, and the polling dynamic over the past two months is ominous


It is true that Sanders won Michigan in 2016, and he also won Wisconsin, Indiana and had a very close loss in Illinois. But the fact is that Sanders has yet to hold on to all his voters from 2016 and is generally falling by double-digits. Sanders can’t win leaking away votes, and there is no sign of that stopping.
Sanders’ frontrunner status was always built on a foundation of sand. And by just hanging around while everyone else evaporates turns out to be a pretty good strategy for Biden



https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/486056-michigan-or-bust-for-sanders-and-its-going-to-be-bust




Go Joe ...you can win my state of Mich..,




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'Michigan or bust' for Sanders - and it's going to be bust.....😎💙 (Original Post) Iamaartist Mar 2020 OP
The wailing and gnashing of teeth is gonna be bad greenjar_01 Mar 2020 #1
Good Luck to Biden in Michigan! Cha Mar 2020 #2
Hoping .....Joe wins Iamaartist Mar 2020 #7
I hope it's a shut out! ucrdem Mar 2020 #3
I hope so ..... Iamaartist Mar 2020 #8
No doubt. honest.abe Mar 2020 #4
K&R..... Iamaartist Mar 2020 #10
About 10 Michigan colleges start their spring break starting March 7 NYMinute Mar 2020 #5
Most go to Flordia.......any place warm after cold winter...call us snow birds Iamaartist Mar 2020 #12
Good article... TTUBatfan2008 Mar 2020 #6
K&R Thanks.....I hope so... Iamaartist Mar 2020 #13
I am not so sure. But I would love to see a big Biden win in Michigan as well Blue_true Mar 2020 #17
Mississippi and Missouri margins also will be a factor Amishman Mar 2020 #20
So do you think Sanders will drop out? LaurenOlimina Mar 2020 #9
I wish he would ...just my opinion ... Iamaartist Mar 2020 #14
He should drop out pretty soon... TTUBatfan2008 Mar 2020 #16
If Bernie Stays in After a Florida Wipe Out We'll Know He's In It to Create Mischief Indykatie Mar 2020 #27
Personally I always felt Joe would be nominee. FloridaBlues Mar 2020 #11
Thank -you .........I did to from day one for us here....keeping my fingers cross..for Joe.. Iamaartist Mar 2020 #15
I did too...even in my darkest February days when I contemplated voting for Bloomberg if the worst Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #32
Let's just hope that Vladimir Putin doesn't mess with the election results. (eom) StevieM Mar 2020 #18
Say hello to President Joe. oasis Mar 2020 #19
It's all over. Biden is inevitable. The only question that remains is who he'll ask to be his VP. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #21
Biden/Harris would be rock solid. nt oasis Mar 2020 #22
K&R Iamaartist Mar 2020 #23
sanders has given up on African American voters Gothmog Mar 2020 #24
Thanks Gothmog Iamaartist Mar 2020 #29
Bernie won Michigan in 2016 by a bit more than 1%... SidDithers Mar 2020 #25
My opinion since I live Michigan..He had a little help from Trump....and Russia..... Iamaartist Mar 2020 #30
538 (pre-super tuesday) analysis has joe up at 51% getagrip_already Mar 2020 #26
K&R Iamaartist Mar 2020 #31
Sanders didn't win Iowa. Didn't win Minnesota. Can't hold the mid west. Not the south. LizBeth Mar 2020 #28
 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
1. The wailing and gnashing of teeth is gonna be bad
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:49 PM
Mar 2020
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Cha

(297,306 posts)
2. Good Luck to Biden in Michigan!
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:49 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
7. Hoping .....Joe wins
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:58 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Fri Mar 6, 2020, 09:37 AM - Edit history (2)

Sanders is coming to Grand Rapids Michigan on Sunday I truly wish he would not..gee give it up already....

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ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
3. I hope it's a shut out!
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:50 PM
Mar 2020

GO MICHIGAN, WE'RE COUNTING ON YOU!!

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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
8. I hope so .....
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:00 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Fri Mar 6, 2020, 09:38 AM - Edit history (1)

But they wont start counting mail in ballots until March 10..so it will maybe be slow on results...

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honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
4. No doubt.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:51 PM
Mar 2020

I am calling Michigan for Biden!

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NYMinute

(3,256 posts)
5. About 10 Michigan colleges start their spring break starting March 7
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:55 PM
Mar 2020

Another reason for the "energized young voters" to not show up at the polls.

They seem to be only energized on twitter.

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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
12. Most go to Flordia.......any place warm after cold winter...call us snow birds
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:03 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
6. Good article...
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:56 PM
Mar 2020

It's definitely over for Sanders. Just a matter of time. I think Biden wins Michigan by at least 10 points and would not be shocked if he wins by 20ish.

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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
13. K&R Thanks.....I hope so...
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:06 PM
Mar 2020
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
17. I am not so sure. But I would love to see a big Biden win in Michigan as well
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 12:48 AM
Mar 2020

as a win in the Washington prinary. If that happens, all rationale for Sanders staying in the race is gone.

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Amishman

(5,557 posts)
20. Mississippi and Missouri margins also will be a factor
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 07:53 AM
Mar 2020

If Biden wins huge and gets the overwhelming majority, it adds another challenge for Sanders. Every time Biden had a big blowout win, Bernie can't easily offset as he is not positioned for any blowouts of his own.

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LaurenOlimina

(1,165 posts)
9. So do you think Sanders will drop out?
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:01 PM
Mar 2020

I do not.

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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
14. I wish he would ...just my opinion ...
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:08 PM
Mar 2020
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TTUBatfan2008

(3,623 posts)
16. He should drop out pretty soon...
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:29 PM
Mar 2020

If he loses Michigan by double digits, that should be the end of the road for him. He will lose Mississippi by a huge amount, possibly 40-50 points. He is on pace to lose Florida by about 50 points and receive zero delegates from Florida. He desperately needs to win Michigan, but I don't think he will get what he needs. Going to be big win for Biden.

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Indykatie

(3,697 posts)
27. If Bernie Stays in After a Florida Wipe Out We'll Know He's In It to Create Mischief
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 05:21 PM
Mar 2020
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FloridaBlues

(4,008 posts)
11. Personally I always felt Joe would be nominee.
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:03 PM
Mar 2020

Thanks for posting article, it might be very close in Michigan but agree must win for Bernie

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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
15. Thank -you .........I did to from day one for us here....keeping my fingers cross..for Joe..
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 10:14 PM
Mar 2020

Very interesting article...

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Demsrule86

(68,586 posts)
32. I did too...even in my darkest February days when I contemplated voting for Bloomberg if the worst
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:22 PM
Mar 2020

happened...Biden and Warren failed. I just thought...let's see what happens in Carolina...Nevada at least he came in second and it was a stupid caucus... and then super Tuesday joy!!!!

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StevieM

(10,500 posts)
18. Let's just hope that Vladimir Putin doesn't mess with the election results. (eom)
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 12:52 AM
Mar 2020
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oasis

(49,389 posts)
19. Say hello to President Joe.
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 12:57 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
21. It's all over. Biden is inevitable. The only question that remains is who he'll ask to be his VP.
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:16 AM
Mar 2020


C'MON! GET IN! We're taking back America!








Joe/Kamala or Biden/Harris 2020!!
Jump on the Biden Bandwagon & abandon the revolution!!
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oasis

(49,389 posts)
22. Biden/Harris would be rock solid. nt
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 08:19 AM
Mar 2020
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Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
24. sanders has given up on African American voters
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 04:49 PM
Mar 2020
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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
29. Thanks Gothmog
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 07:22 PM
Mar 2020

He has three rallies in Michigan...he so worried about Mich...and one in Detroit tonight where most AA voters are...

Trump is coming here Grand Rapids Mich March 15 or so maybe to rigged Michigan with DeVos. Rally is at DeVos Hall....mmm. I thought that in 2016 when con came the night before election...

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SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
25. Bernie won Michigan in 2016 by a bit more than 1%...
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 05:06 PM
Mar 2020

his net pickup in delegates was +4.

That's ain't gonna do him any good in 2020. He needs to start winning states by double-digit margins or the delegate allocation math gets very, very bad for him.

If he loses MI, he should drop out.

Sid

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Iamaartist

(3,300 posts)
30. My opinion since I live Michigan..He had a little help from Trump....and Russia.....
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 07:50 PM
Mar 2020
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getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
26. 538 (pre-super tuesday) analysis has joe up at 51%
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 05:13 PM
Mar 2020

Biden is forecasted to win an average of 51% of the vote in Michigan. In 80% of simulations, he wins between 43% and 60% of the vote. He has a 3 in 4 (77%) chance of winning the most votes, much better than the second most likely winner, Sanders, who has a 1 in 4 (23%) chance.

And again, there really haven't been any/many polls since super tuesday.

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LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
28. Sanders didn't win Iowa. Didn't win Minnesota. Can't hold the mid west. Not the south.
Fri Mar 6, 2020, 05:24 PM
Mar 2020

Not seeing but a couple states in the NE. Where is he going to get his wins?

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