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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:28 PM Mar 2020

New: Warren, Sanders allies scramble to find her an exit ramp

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/warren-to-think-through-her-future-top-aide-says/2020/03/04/bf7d20ca-5e38-11ea-9055-5fa12981bbbf_story.html

By Annie Linskey and Sean Sullivan

March 4, 2020 at 6:49 p.m. EST

DETROIT — Top surrogates and allies of Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are discussing ways for their two camps to unite and push a common liberal agenda, with the expectation that Warren is likely to leave the presidential campaign soon, according to two people familiar with the talks.

The conversations, which are in an early phase, largely involve members of Congress who back Sanders (I-Vt.) reaching out to those in Warren's camp to explore the prospect that Warren (D-Mass.) might endorse him. They are also appealing to Warren's supporters to switch their allegiance to Sanders, according two people with direct knowledge of the conversations who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss delicate discussions that are supposed to be confidential.

The whirlwind of activity reflects the rapid changes in a Democratic primary that is still very much in transition. As late as Tuesday, many Warren allies believed she would stay in the race until the Democratic convention, despite her poor showing to date in the primaries, in hopes of retaining her clout and influencing the eventual nominee.

But after Warren's bleak performance in the Super Tuesday primaries, her associates, as well as those of Sanders and former vice president Joe Biden, say she is now looking for the best way to step aside. There is no certainty she will endorse Sanders or anyone else, but the talks reflect the growing pressure on the senator from Massachusetts to withdraw.

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New: Warren, Sanders allies scramble to find her an exit ramp (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 OP
Amazing.........................her citizen allies (voters) hold the keys turbinetree Mar 2020 #1
Senator Warren is sorta their "Obi-Wan" at this point Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 #4
If the Democratic primary discussion page is an indication of her having 19%................. turbinetree Mar 2020 #11
That's all good and well - as long as they remember who the enemy is here: sandensea Mar 2020 #16
eeeuuuu!!! fugly IADEMO2004 Mar 2020 #24
On the outside, and in. sandensea Mar 2020 #25
This story is bullshit and blm Mar 2020 #35
Yepper spot on.................... turbinetree Mar 2020 #48
Yep. Yelling at her to get off the stage gldstwmn Mar 2020 #22
Posted this a few minutes ago but didn't bring over the text. DURHAM D Mar 2020 #2
She's in an unenviable position. Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 #8
She truly is in a tough spot now. She missed her window by Blue_true Mar 2020 #20
"her associates, as well as those of Sanders and Joe Biden..." blm Mar 2020 #3
Yes, I also think this is being pushed by Sanders people. n/t pnwmom Mar 2020 #7
Members of congress? . . . Iliyah Mar 2020 #5
She has two House supporters, Alana Pressley and Katie Porter, but Blue_true Mar 2020 #26
This didn't come from Warren's side. This story is so planted blm Mar 2020 #32
That figures. Real cutthroat stuff. nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #38
If DU is any indication RandySF Mar 2020 #6
She was my second choice and BS is at the very bottom of my list. DURHAM D Mar 2020 #9
Most every Warren supporter I know can't stand the Sanders campaign blm Mar 2020 #10
This is my experience as well. octoberlib Mar 2020 #13
Same. nt DURHAM D Mar 2020 #14
I hope she stays away and makes it clear why BeyondGeography Mar 2020 #47
They aren't. In my NC women's Democratic group on FB a majority supported Warren octoberlib Mar 2020 #12
She made a big mistake by not differentiating from Sanders very early. nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #31
Definitely not this one. we can do it Mar 2020 #39
She is my Senator. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #15
This story sounds planted blm Mar 2020 #17
Yep. Annie Linskey who broke this in the Washington Post was DURHAM D Mar 2020 #18
The squad. nt sheshe2 Mar 2020 #23
How did African American voters in Massachusetts vote? Blue_true Mar 2020 #36
Pressley distanced herself from the squad when she endorsed Warren. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #41
All Talk. Not gonna happen. blm Mar 2020 #42
Just as I thought. Smelled from the headline down. blm Mar 2020 #28
Hello she Andy823 Mar 2020 #19
Hey Andy. sheshe2 Mar 2020 #27
If there's really a such thing as a unity ticket, it's clearly Biden-Warren. eom tarheelsunc Mar 2020 #21
That's exactly the ticket I'm hoping for chia Mar 2020 #29
So Bernie is interfering with the primaries to stop Warren? FreeState Mar 2020 #30
These stories are SO planted. blm Mar 2020 #33
Maybe it could be as simple for her as it is for me..... FM123 Mar 2020 #34
When does you state vote? Mine is Florida on the 17th. nt Blue_true Mar 2020 #37
Hey Fellow Floridian! FM123 Mar 2020 #45
Hi Blue_true Mar 2020 #46
Well, let me add 2 more to the list who would go to Joe not Bern, When I heard the talking napi21 Mar 2020 #40
If Sanders said what Warren claims he said, she should not endorse him. W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #43
If Joe's smart, he's talking to her too. (n/t) thesquanderer Mar 2020 #44
 

turbinetree

(24,710 posts)
1. Amazing.........................her citizen allies (voters) hold the keys
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:31 PM
Mar 2020

and they know it and she knows it................without us they are in trouble.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
4. Senator Warren is sorta their "Obi-Wan" at this point
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:34 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

turbinetree

(24,710 posts)
11. If the Democratic primary discussion page is an indication of her having 19%.................
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:43 PM
Mar 2020

then those two men have a problem one has 25% and the other has 13%...................that's 19% just on this site, and in each state depending on what she got in votes in these primary elections......................that total adds up...........................this is problem and she really does hold the keys..................

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

sandensea

(21,650 posts)
16. That's all good and well - as long as they remember who the enemy is here:
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:01 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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sandensea

(21,650 posts)
25. On the outside, and in.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:46 PM
Mar 2020

A symptom of the worst in us, as someone once put it.

And of poorly-treated STDs.

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blm

(113,082 posts)
35. This story is bullshit and
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:53 PM
Mar 2020

Planted to pressure Warren.

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turbinetree

(24,710 posts)
48. Yepper spot on....................
Thu Mar 5, 2020, 09:14 AM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
22. Yep. Yelling at her to get off the stage
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:42 PM
Mar 2020

ain't gonna cut it.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
2. Posted this a few minutes ago but didn't bring over the text.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:33 PM
Mar 2020
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287631098

Thanks for posting this. I am not sure that Warren is actually involved in this discussion. Looks to me like it is driven by Sander's camp.

I think Warren should remain neutral.



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primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
8. She's in an unenviable position.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:41 PM
Mar 2020

Sanders and Warren are more ideologically aligned than any other two candidates this cycle. But, there's Biden's momentum (and his significant backing). And consideration of her place in the Democratic Party moving forward from her decision.

Frankly, I wouldn't want to be in her position right now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
20. She truly is in a tough spot now. She missed her window by
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:41 PM
Mar 2020

not clearly distinguishing the differences between her and Sanders early on.

I doubt that she has any real clout left. Many of her voters voted for Biden yesterday and I don't see those people going to Sanders. She may lift him in close blue states, but there is only one of those left, Michigan. But the African American vote is going to be massive in Michigan and we already see who is most likely to pick that up.

Honestly, she should just stay in, but the issue may be that she is running out of money.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blm

(113,082 posts)
3. "her associates, as well as those of Sanders and Joe Biden..."
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:34 PM
Mar 2020

Sanders supporters are pushing this story.

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pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
7. Yes, I also think this is being pushed by Sanders people. n/t
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:40 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. Members of congress? . . .
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:36 PM
Mar 2020

must be the House.

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primary today, I would vote for:
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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
26. She has two House supporters, Alana Pressley and Katie Porter, but
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:46 PM
Mar 2020

their states voted yesterday. Also, it looks like African American voters in Massachusetts went heavily for Biden, so that creates a problem for Pressley if she supports Sanders. Porter is increasingly under the influence of Nancy Pelosi, I don't see her crossing Pelosi up to back Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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blm

(113,082 posts)
32. This didn't come from Warren's side. This story is so planted
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:50 PM
Mar 2020

by Sanders camp that I expect a beanstalk to sprout.

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Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
38. That figures. Real cutthroat stuff. nt
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 10:01 PM
Mar 2020
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RandySF

(59,090 posts)
6. If DU is any indication
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:39 PM
Mar 2020

Not every Warren supporter out there was necessarily a potential Sanders voter. People to not fit into neat lanes based on policy.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
9. She was my second choice and BS is at the very bottom of my list.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:42 PM
Mar 2020

I think the pundits have it 100% wrong that if she drops out they will turn to Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

blm

(113,082 posts)
10. Most every Warren supporter I know can't stand the Sanders campaign
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:42 PM
Mar 2020

And, especially, its hate-filled lie machine that lives on the internet.

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primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
13. This is my experience as well.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:44 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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BeyondGeography

(39,377 posts)
47. I hope she stays away and makes it clear why
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:57 PM
Mar 2020

I agree with Bernie on many things, but the culture of divisiveness that he has done nothing to suppress is bad for the party and something I cannot support, eg. She has taken mountains of abuse just for being on the ballot yesterday; Saagar Enjeti (Krystal Ball’s water carrier) said today it proved she was a fake all along. Now that Warren’s looking to exit, Bernie says he’s disgusted with the abuse. Please don’t fall for it, EW.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
12. They aren't. In my NC women's Democratic group on FB a majority supported Warren
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:43 PM
Mar 2020

and only a couple said they'd vote for Sanders if she dropped out. Her big mistake was allying herself with Sanders. His surrogates have been dragging her through the mud since day one.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
31. She made a big mistake by not differentiating from Sanders very early. nt
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:49 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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we can do it

(12,190 posts)
39. Definitely not this one.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 10:02 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
15. She is my Senator.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 08:51 PM
Mar 2020

I supported her. I switched to Biden, she no longer has a path. BS was never on my radar. I know many that feel the same.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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blm

(113,082 posts)
17. This story sounds planted
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:21 PM
Mar 2020

No doubt to pressure her.

Sounds like a pile of horseshyt, to me.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
18. Yep. Annie Linskey who broke this in the Washington Post was
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:37 PM
Mar 2020

just on CNN. She was slippery but did say that this story came from members of Congress who support Bernie and they have been trying to get other members of congress who support Elizabeth to join them. Annie actually said that the Warren team/staff is not talking with Sanders people.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
36. How did African American voters in Massachusetts vote?
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:57 PM
Mar 2020

My sense is that Pressley would be making a mistake to back Sanders. I don't see Katie Porter backing him, she is a Warren disciple, but she seems to be under Speaker Pelosi' wing now. Porter in particular would be taking a big risk to support Bernie given that she could have two shots at a US Senate seat from California (if Harris becomes VP and in 2024 when the Senior Senator from Cali calls it quits), if she backs Bernie, she alienates a lot of powerful people in Cali.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
41. Pressley distanced herself from the squad when she endorsed Warren.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 10:03 PM
Mar 2020

NO,Not Porter.

AOC, Omar and Tlaib are the ones that endorsed Sanders and were members of the 'squad'.

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blm

(113,082 posts)
42. All Talk. Not gonna happen.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 10:05 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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blm

(113,082 posts)
28. Just as I thought. Smelled from the headline down.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:47 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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Andy823

(11,495 posts)
19. Hello she
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:40 PM
Mar 2020

By son has been for Warren from the beginning. He voted for her, and he would never vote for Sanders, period! He will vote blue no matter who it is in the general, but he can see what is happening, and wants Biden now. He knows Warren can't win.

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sheshe2

(83,846 posts)
27. Hey Andy.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:47 PM
Mar 2020

Breaks my heart she did not do better. Women, strong talented women get left behind. *sigh*

I hope that cycle stops in my lifetime.

Kudos to your son.

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tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
21. If there's really a such thing as a unity ticket, it's clearly Biden-Warren. eom
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:41 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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chia

(2,244 posts)
29. That's exactly the ticket I'm hoping for
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:48 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

blm

(113,082 posts)
33. These stories are SO planted.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:51 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FM123

(10,054 posts)
34. Maybe it could be as simple for her as it is for me.....
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:53 PM
Mar 2020

When the time comes - as a Democrat I will support the Democrat.

If I were to vote in a presidential
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Joe Biden
 

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
37. When does you state vote? Mine is Florida on the 17th. nt
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 09:59 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

FM123

(10,054 posts)
45. Hey Fellow Floridian!
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 10:55 PM
Mar 2020


Yep, March 17th is the date.
If I were to vote in a presidential
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napi21

(45,806 posts)
40. Well, let me add 2 more to the list who would go to Joe not Bern, When I heard the talking
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 10:03 PM
Mar 2020

heads all babbling about Liz leaving and joining Bernie, I yelled at the TV "just what makes you think that JA?"

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W_HAMILTON

(7,871 posts)
43. If Sanders said what Warren claims he said, she should not endorse him.
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 10:27 PM
Mar 2020

She wants to beat Trump, and I think deep down she knows that Sanders is not the candidate that will do that. She also wants to unite the party, and I think she also knows that endorsing Sanders will only further that divide.

I think her best bet is to not endorse anyone. I don't really see any upside in it for her. The only thing I can think of is her possibly getting Sanders to guarantee her a spot as the vice presidential nominee on the ticket and her believing that in doing so, she can be the one to unite the non-Sanders majority of the party.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
 

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
44. If Joe's smart, he's talking to her too. (n/t)
Wed Mar 4, 2020, 10:32 PM
Mar 2020
If I were to vote in a presidential
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