Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumKlobuchar as VP?
I think a woman would be a very smart move as VP and I think Klobuchar would appeal to voters in the south and midwest. The swing states are what is really important and I think Biden/Klobuchar would be a very strong ticket in those states.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CurtEastPoint
(18,656 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)I was thinking Warren to reach out to Bernie voters. And I really like Warren. I really like Harris and Amy and several other women. I believe Biden will select a woman. I am also concern about the health of the next President that is elected (Biden, Sanders, Trump) and this time the VP needs to be ready on Day 1 to step up. We know Pence aint it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gulliver
(13,186 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CurtEastPoint
(18,656 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gulliver
(13,186 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Oh boy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AGeddy
(509 posts)Joe owes his resurgence to the black voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)But Amy and Pete voters in the north.
He would have lost Massachusetts, Minnesota, Texas, and Maine without her and Petes endorsements.
Amy has earned and deserves the VP slot. She was the first to endorse. Singlehandedly gave him Minnesota.
Where was Harris? She could have joined up, but didnt.
Harris for AG. Amy for VP.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,358 posts)anyone
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)She may have been for Warren and Thought Biden might lose big?
Biden no longer needs her endorsement for the primary. He will get it in the general.
Abrams isnt ready to be President on day 1, so I dont think Biden would pick her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,358 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)came out looking good, and we need the Rust Belt.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Freddie
(9,273 posts)She would help carry the Midwest and shes young. And female.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Qutzupalotl
(14,322 posts)In that sense, Klobuchar would underline that support but not add much. On the other hand, Warren as VP would bring the younger generation out. I think she would be a more effective president for the next cycle.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)Warren ain't no spring chicken either. Two winter chickens on a ticket together--no thanks.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Qutzupalotl
(14,322 posts)and will likely put several red states in play.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Biden needs Amy in the Midwest. Take no chances.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)I don't know where this nonsense comes from...crushing an incumbent in the swing states.
It doesn't carry one speck of reality.
If we win those states it will be by a whisker.
Red states like Texas and Arizona are not in play. Those states have more than 40% conservatives. Turnout doesn't matter in a situation like that. Preference doesn't matter. The ideological split dictates everything.
We can't be moronic like 2016 and chase states with 41-44% conservatives.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bamagal62
(3,268 posts)It needs to be Kamala Harris or Stacey Abrams.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
malchickiwick
(1,474 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
whistler162
(11,155 posts)no matter their health is a badly balanced ticket.
How about a female candidate from the Midwest or West that isn't a Senator! Gabby Gifford. not sure how that would work with her husband running for the Senate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Happy Hoosier
(7,372 posts)I think we need a pick that reflects the diversity of the party.
Women of color are very important to us, so....
I'm not arguing for tokenism here. We have a wealth of qualified candidates.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FREDKOEGEL
(1 post)She couldn't get to 5% in any primary.
Amy does not appeal to black or brown voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)no need to worry about them. They're not going to flock to the Orange Numbnutz.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
squirecam
(2,706 posts)She appeals to the moderate women we need. Just like how we win 2018.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
marble falls
(57,152 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)shes great.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
obamanut2012
(26,099 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gulliver
(13,186 posts)But Booker, Harris, and Warren are in there.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Qutzupalotl
(14,322 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Moderateguy
(945 posts)I was talking to a bunch of female friends and they said Amy is the last person they would want to represent women on the democratic ticket. Their biggest concern was that she has significant trouble regulating her emotions-there is documented evidence (and her performance in debates) that show that she is an angry person. This does not bode well when Trump will be constantly poking the dem ticket with a big stick. Once attacked she turns into the worst negative stereotype of a woman: A "shrill harpy". They thought this is not a big liability but would definitely set back some progress on the gender equality front in red states like ours.
P.S: Her reaction to Pete in the debates has me thinking that she is also fighting against some deeply internalized homophobia as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
squirecam
(2,706 posts)You have zero evidence she is homophobic. You should be ashamed of yourself.
P.S: Her reaction to Pete in the debates has me thinking that she is also fighting against some deeply internalized homophobia as well.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
judeling
(1,086 posts)I will say Amy's reaction to Pete, mirrors much of mine and it had nothing to do with sexual orientation.
Whatever talents Pete may have he does rub many people the wrong way.
(As do all of them)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
NedBraden
(53 posts)...as a politics junkie, it's obvious she will get something, and not an ambassadorship, but something big vp, state, ag....etc etc. They owe her.
And objectively----out of the entire field she was the best, had she been a 55 year old Male of any race she would be running away with this.
Joe is clearly slipping upstairs, watched manybfamily members go through this, so if any is vp,....she could potentially get the next term and term after as POTUS, ......12 years of Democrat party rule!!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
judeling
(1,086 posts)She and Warren suffer tremendously from gender.
The biggest problem for both had more to do with the huge early field.
They both got over shadowed early. That help Warren at the start but ended up hurting later because they both need to be directly compared to Bernie and Biden early.
I will tell you this much I would be looking forward to a Warren/Klobuchar Debate coming up a lot more then the Biden/Sanders debat we are going to get.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
standingtall
(2,786 posts)I honestly don't think Klobuchar would gives us much as the pick VP. Stacey could help turnout in Georgia which has been inching towards becoming a swing state. Some might say Minnesota is becoming a swing State too, but if Biden has to pick Amy Klobuchar for VP just to win Minnesota than we are probably not winning this election anyway.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Nor does she guarantee Georgia.
Amy is ready and gets us moderate women in the burbs.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)The VP pick will be based on who can bring the most to the ticket demographically, geographically and on an ideological basis. Polling will determine that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)You need more than ideology and base worship.
If Biden dies, Abrams isnt ready to be President. Amy would be.
Picking a VP based on skin color is a bad idea.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)But polls.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)That is a key requirement of being VP.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)But elections are not based on fairness or Trump wouldnt be President.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)No, we wouldnt. We have to be the responsible parent.
Abrams should get some experience in the administration, and make a run later when she can be vetted based upon that experience.
The VP must be someone qualified to actually do the job day 1.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Seems odd.
The VP pick should be the person who puts us in the best position to win the election. Any other consideration is irrelevant.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Im saying you dont nominate someone unqualified for the job. Thats trump.
Abrams does not have the experience to take over from Biden on day 1. And she shouldnt be on the ticket due to skin color. Thats awful reasoning.
If there must be an AA woman, pick someone qualified like Harris. Who has the necessary experience to take over day 1.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)The VP pick will be someone who puts us in the best position to win the election.
So what do you want, to stand on some principle or win the election?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)So yes, principles matter. I find it hard to believe that Biden could not find a qualified VP pick that is AA. Because Harris is out there.
And any suggestion that only Abrams as VP wins the election is absurd in my opinion.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)but polling by the campaign will determine who is the best VP pick to win the election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FM123
(10,054 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ace3csusm
(969 posts)We need the to get the Senate Back, How about Obama (Michelle or Barry)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
comradebillyboy
(10,174 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Mme. Defarge
(8,037 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)some vague notion about how she will "deliver the midwest?"
I don't see what she brings to the ticket. She would be another Kaine.
Warren brings a rock solid resume of fighting corruption and holding big money accountable...which would balance some of Joe's perceived weaknesses.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
BusyBeingBest
(8,059 posts)I doubt she would want that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
forthemiddle
(1,381 posts)To win Wisconsin, and the Mid West, Amy would be a great asset.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
SBoy
(92 posts)Its got to be....Michelle Obama 👍
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Rhiannon12866
(205,839 posts)And has made that clear more than once.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Rhiannon12866
(205,839 posts)She did so much - besides being nice, smart, savvy and incredibly proactive! She was just the best! I'm sure we'll continue to hear from her, but she has no interest in seeking public office.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Sad, but I wish her all the best.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Rhiannon12866
(205,839 posts)And she can continue to follow her passions.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)Harris doesnt have as much record of things done as Amy. This campaign would be about unity and getting things done.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Celerity
(43,481 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Owl
(3,643 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
StevieM
(10,500 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
judeling
(1,086 posts)While everyone looks at Harris and Abrams and all of the other names, people are overlooking a couple of key dynamics Amy brings.
First she is obviously totally compatible with Joe and able to naturally shift focus to him. When needed and as she proved in the September Debate come naturally to his defense.
While I know most people will discount this but the one place Amy is well known and respected is in Rural America. I don't know if people understand how much disquiet about Trump there actually is in farm country. I'm not saying she would win rural areas but what I will say is she will blunt a bit of Trump's advantage and so put more states in play then you would think right away.
But probably the most important thing that she would bring is that actual ease she and Bernie show together. Bernie actually worked as hard as he was asked to do for Hillary. But it never felt natural and is so forgotten. That hurt Bernie this cycle. But the Bernie Amy comedy routine we saw in the debates would translate well on the road. That may very well be the Key to a landslide.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
squirecam
(2,706 posts)https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/05/look-no-further-vp-joe-biden-it-should-be-amy-klobuchar/
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Too criminal injustice oriented. A slap in the face to numerous voters.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
flamingdem
(39,316 posts)She came into her own after New Hampshire. She's ready to lead from the get go.
I'm not as confident in Stacy Abrams. She lacks experience compared to Amy.
You can't have it all. The person picked for VP has got to be ready to take over and Amy has the credentials.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden