Democratic Primaries

LAS14

(13,783 posts) Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:40 AM Mar 2020

It's possible that Biden's poor debate performances, which....

.... I do believe are poorer than they were when he was younger, are a an actual plus with a big portion of the electorate. It's clear that there is a class thing going on in our country and Biden doesn't sound remotely like someone who could condescend to anyone.

I'll stick with Warren till she drops out, but I'm absolutely delighted that we Dems have figured out how to come together.

Do you think Biden's stumbling about is a plus in trying to win a big block of voters?

tia
las

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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It's possible that Biden's poor debate performances, which.... (Original Post) LAS14 Mar 2020 OP

biden is "unscripted" as they come. Why we love the guy. He is not pretencious one bit beachbumbob Mar 2020 #1

Really? nt fleabiscuit Mar 2020 #2

+1 n/t ZenDem Mar 2020 #5

Ikr.. lol.. Cha Mar 2020 #8

No. k2qb3 Mar 2020 #3

He has a stutter. My son had one...he is is plenty sharp. Demsrule86 Mar 2020 #11

I've heard this before, but, as I understand it, a stutter has to do with.... LAS14 Mar 2020 #14

I think being genuine is gold, and peaking at the right moment is a strategy bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #4

I never suggested that either he or his campaign are not skilled or smart. It's just... LAS14 Mar 2020 #7

We're not electing a debater-in-chief. highplainsdem Mar 2020 #12

It got attention, didn't it? bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #16

Biden is the most qualified nationally and globally. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #6

+100000000 Celerity Mar 2020 #9

I don't think most people really thought he was that terrible OKNancy Mar 2020 #10

Somebody else is watching Krystal Ball Watchfoxheadexplodes Mar 2020 #13

I think it has more to do with his stuttering. redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #15

See my reply #14. LAS14 Mar 2020 #22

Unrec. MrsCoffee Mar 2020 #17

Yup. fleabiscuit Mar 2020 #23

Do you have specific and consistent example to point towards? LanternWaste Mar 2020 #18

No, only that I don't remember noticing his debate performance in this way when he was younger. nt LAS14 Mar 2020 #20

I don't know if it's a plus, but he's always made gaffs. MoonRiver Mar 2020 #19

For those who have not seen this MoonlitKnight Mar 2020 #21

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)

1. biden is "unscripted" as they come. Why we love the guy. He is not pretencious one bit

Reply to LAS14 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:41 AM

Mar 2020

he is not a cold calculating politico type. He truly serves the american people for their benefit and need, not some ideology

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)

2. Really? nt

Reply to LAS14 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:43 AM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

ZenDem

(442 posts)

5. +1 n/t

Reply to fleabiscuit (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:44 AM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Cha

(297,522 posts)

8. Ikr.. lol..

Reply to fleabiscuit (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:45 AM

Mar 2020

my reaction was.. Jeezsus!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

k2qb3

(374 posts)

3. No.

Reply to LAS14 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:43 AM

Mar 2020

It's the reason his campaign almost foundered until he had a good one, and Clyburn, to give him a big win.

His mental lapses are the reason I didn't vote for him on Sat. They're too familiar and it's a long road to Nov.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Demsrule86

(68,643 posts)

11. He has a stutter. My son had one...he is is plenty sharp.

Reply to k2qb3 (Reply #3)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:46 AM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

LAS14

(13,783 posts)

14. I've heard this before, but, as I understand it, a stutter has to do with....

Reply to Demsrule86 (Reply #11)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:48 AM

Mar 2020

... difficulty in articulating a single word, not difficulty in completing a sentence. Biden was constantly leaving sentences dangling. He didn't have difficulty articulating words, as far as I could tell.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

bucolic_frolic

(43,257 posts)

4. I think being genuine is gold, and peaking at the right moment is a strategy

Reply to LAS14 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:43 AM

Mar 2020

Anyone who thinks Biden and his campaign are not skilled and smart is very very dumb.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

LAS14

(13,783 posts)

7. I never suggested that either he or his campaign are not skilled or smart. It's just...

Reply to bucolic_frolic (Reply #4)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:44 AM

Mar 2020

... his performance in debates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

highplainsdem

(49,028 posts)

12. We're not electing a debater-in-chief.

Reply to LAS14 (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:47 AM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

bucolic_frolic

(43,257 posts)

16. It got attention, didn't it?

Reply to LAS14 (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:49 AM

Mar 2020

There was no point in being the frontrunner in Iowa or NH. You play your A game when the race really starts.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

LakeArenal

(28,837 posts)

6. Biden is the most qualified nationally and globally.

Reply to LAS14 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:44 AM

Mar 2020

That’s why he won.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Celerity

(43,485 posts)

9. +100000000

Reply to LakeArenal (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:45 AM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)

10. I don't think most people really thought he was that terrible

Reply to LAS14 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:46 AM

Mar 2020

I don’t think most people really thought he was that terrible if you get outside the liberal bubble.

Plus there was a lot of press describing his history of stuttering. I think that humanized him and in some cases explained some of his fumbling with words.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,496 posts)

13. Somebody else is watching Krystal Ball

Reply to LAS14 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:47 AM

Mar 2020

She can't stop harping on Biden and his "poor debate performance"

She is also on a meltdown about Bloomberg. Watch the Sander's youtube bros to go vicious on Warren now.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)

15. I think it has more to do with his stuttering.

Reply to LAS14 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:49 AM

Mar 2020

My uncle stutters, and as he aged it got a bit harder for him to control it, not impossible, but he would appear to struggle at times. His mind was sharp as ever.

Joe is fine, those stupid so called "debates" are not debates, most of those people could not truly "debate" if they were the real thing. Harris and Warren would be the best ones in those true debate formats. I'm not convinced they mean that much anyway.

The debates we have are sort of like the NFL combine, if you are a top prospect you have the most to lose by participating in the combine.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

LAS14

(13,783 posts)

22. See my reply #14.

Reply to redstatebluegirl (Reply #15)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:08 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

MrsCoffee

(5,803 posts)

17. Unrec.

Reply to LAS14 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:50 AM

Mar 2020

What a bunch of passive aggressive drivel.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)

23. Yup.

Reply to MrsCoffee (Reply #17)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:31 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)

18. Do you have specific and consistent example to point towards?

Reply to LAS14 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:51 AM

Mar 2020

"I do believe are poorer than they were when he was younger"

Do you have specific and consistent examples to point towards on which to give any foundation at all to that belief?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

LAS14

(13,783 posts)

20. No, only that I don't remember noticing his debate performance in this way when he was younger. nt

Reply to LanternWaste (Reply #18)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:01 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)

19. I don't know if it's a plus, but he's always made gaffs.

Reply to LAS14 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 11:56 AM

Mar 2020

I have been wondering if the stuttering he struggles with might be a factor. Anyway, he's very open and friendly, with vast experience. He'll make a fantastic president!

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)

21. For those who have not seen this

Reply to LAS14 (Original post)

Wed Mar 4, 2020, 12:07 PM

Mar 2020

This is Biden at his best explaining his problem with stuttering.

[link:https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/02/06/joe-biden-new-hampshire-town-hall-overcoming-stuttering-sot-vpx.cnn|

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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