Last night was . . . . what? . . . for Biden or against Sanders?

[Stinky The Clown]

[spicysista]

1. For Biden and against dolt45. n.t.

[Cha]

10. Thank you, spicysister! Exactly!

[spicysista]

14. Hey, Cha!

[Cary]

2. I think it proves, yet again, my theory

Most people aren't ideological.

[Siwsan]

3. For the American People and against trump*

At least that's my take-away.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

4. Mix of for Biden and against Trump and Bernie can't beat Trump.

[onetexan]

5. +1 K&R

[el_bryanto]

8. Except in California, I gather? Then again California has a lot of electoral college votes. nt

[Pisces]

12. California will go blue no matter who the nominee is. And 25% of votes were early. How many of those

Would have switched to BIden in the last minute. Winning California is delegate rich, but says nothing about the general

[mopinko]

13. come november he will.

[Tarheel_Dem]

15. BS was expected to win CA handily, but he was also expected to win TX, MN & ME. What we...

now know, if Steve Kornacki is correct, CA will not be the blowout win BS was hoping for. The CA vote may not be settled for days, and when it is, it won't be the delegate haul the BS campaign expected. BS racked up early votes in CA, but came in 3rd for people who voted yesterday.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

16. Yes. I think the whole subject of why our base differs

Depending on state is very interesting. Like you can't get much more liberal than Massachusetts yet Biden wins there. Maybe it's the degree of pragmatism in a place?

[Renew Deal]

32. Will California vote for Trump?

[blm]

20. ✔️✔️✔️

[Glorfindel]

6. It was for the good people of these United States and against *tRump

I wanted with all my heart to vote for Mayor Pete in the upcoming Georgia presidential primary; alas, that is not to be. I will, however, vote for Joe Biden with great enthusiasm because I truly believe he has the best chance to rid this nation of the cancerous tumor that is the current occupant of the office of president. I am not "against" Sanders.

[greymattermom]

23. I wanted to vote for Elizabeth in Georgia 6.

But Joe has my vote now. I have other great women to support.

[bucolic_frolic]

7. It was for democracy and patriotism

and all things associated with the normal political middle in America. Biden is the man in the right place at the right time.

Voters know the dictators of the world foreign and domestic are aligned together. Such a stark contrast has not been this evident since World War II. This is almost and Axis-Allies redux. It took FDR's version of democracy and freedom to defeat them.

Sanders is suddenly perceived as an outside sideshow to that cleavage. To a plurality of voters what he says is true, and interesting, and a factor to consider to improve their working and financial lives, but it doesn't fight Trump hard enough and is not very relevant to normalcy. It is its own brand of populism with insufficient patriotism. Once socialism enters the fray, Bernie is toast as a candidate.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

17. Very provocative post! I think about what the two liberal

Guys on KLBJ in Austin said when Beto started proposing policies. They said "Stop! To beat trump, all you have to do is to not be trump."

[bucolic_frolic]

22. But you must also

fight Trump's dirty tricks. You need big ideas to define the landscape and educate voters as to what's going on. We are ignorant on civics matters, we have taken democracy for granted because it provides consumerism.

Authoritarianism went underground after the two world wars, but its descendants still hope to return to power. Democracy is the never-ending foe of dictatorship. That's what's on the line in this election. Pelosi tells us "A democracy if you can keep it."

[Laura PourMeADrink]

28. Agree, it gets much more complex in the general. And

even if Biden wins the nomination, it's certainly not a given that will translate to a win over trump. But it appears that when people saw Biden finally speak from his heart, with fire, in SC, that he was the one.

It will be up to Biden now. Will he bring in the brains like Bloomberg did? The ones who knew what triggers a narcissist. The ones who created the clever funny digs?

How will he work to prevent tRussian interference? How will he reach out to Bernie and his supporters. How will Bernie help him? And very important, how will he try to combat FB smears.

All we can do is try.

[Happy Hoosier]

9. Not a bad question really.

For me? A bit of both. Add in a healthy dose of Anti-Trump. I don't think Bernie can beat Trump.

Biden was not my first or second choice. But Sanders is my last choice. So there was an anti-Bernie sentiment. But Biden has shown me something the last couple weeks.

[NYMinute]

11. Decency and empathy always preferred over rage, anger and belligerence.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

18. +1

[AGeddy]

19. Yes

Both.

[JCMach1]

21. About COVID-19 changing the playing field

Biden is the 'safe' choice in that scenario

[harun]

25. I'm tending towards agreeing with you. Changed the psyche.

[JCMach1]

40. It's in the exit polling if anyone would stop navel gazing

The horse race BS

[rzemanfl]

27. Hmmm. n/t

[Laelth]

29. Against Sanders, I think.

Resoundingly.

I don't think too many Democrats are extremely excited about Joe, but a lot of Democrats came out yesterday and said, "We ain't votin' for no Soshulist!"



-Laelth

[dansolo]

33. Voters voted against the guy trying to blow up their party

Bernie supporters act like there is some grand conspiracy against him, when it is a lot simpler than that. The people who generally vote in primaries probably consider themselves part of the "Democratic establishment". Bernie rejected them. Why would anyone expect that he would get their votes?

[Laelth]

37. The fact that Bernie isn't a "team player" is what I dislike most about him.

That's one of the major reasons I voted for Hillary in 2016.

Informed Democrats, like us, understand that it would be difficult to form a cohesive and effective government with Bernie in charge. Your average Democratic voter, though, probably isn't that savvy. What they know is that their state won't vote for a socialist, and they want to win. So, they didn't vote for Bernie.

No grand conspiracy, here. I saw intelligent voting based upon the reasonable fear that the "socialist" label just wouldn't fly in the states that voted for Joe yesterday ... not even MA.



-Laelth

[berni_mccoy]

30. It was a lot of things, including both of your points

It was reality, fear, hope, good, bad and ugly.

I’m ready to be done with the primary and move on toward the general election.

[loyalsister]

31. Affirmation of patriarchy, privilege, wealth worship

Same as it ever was. Super depressing if you aren't part of that crowd.

[dansolo]

34. You have insulted a lot of people with that statement

[OnDoutside]

35. Oh get over yourself, your head in the clouds candidates got shown the door by millions of

voters who deal in reality.They're the ones who would suffer under a 2nd Trump term, which candidates putting forward getting rid of private healthcare would ensure.

[loyalsister]

38. Disabled since I was in my 20s

Fortunate to have Medicare. Infuriated by the number of people who are desperate, homeless, and hoping they don't die before they are finally eligible, and have a lot of memories of people who did die waiting.
For a real dose of reality try reading "Nomadland".

[OnDoutside]

39. We are all infuriated by the homeless and those ill, but you are being sold a pup to believe that a

Dem nominee could win an election by promising to get rid of private healthcare. There are 8 million Union workers who have (and like) their private healthcare policies. It would be an open invitation for Trump to win in November, it is that crazy a move.

Republicans are desperate to fix the ACA, so they can put their disastrous anti-ACA behind them. There's a bi-partisan bill ready to go, but McConnell is blocking it because Trump doesn't want it.

There's also a bi-partisan bill on prescription drugs, that McConnell is blocking. You've seen over the last 5 days that Democratic voters just want Trump out, and this will seriously help turnout in November. As Rick Wilson called it correctly in his latest book, this is a referendum on Trump election, rather than a policy election. Beat Trump, with moderate Republicans and Independent, and you have a chance of taking back the Senate. Once that is done, things will change.

[loyalsister]

43. 61 Million disabled people and their families

Are oppressed. I have seen too many people die to redirect my pity to entitled, privileged people

[jcmaine72]

44. +1

[FamousMortimer]

36. I don't like socialism

Biden was the only realistic choice for me because of that and that I felt he can actually win. I think there are more moderate Democrats like me than people realized. I just think we are quieter about it.

[nolabear]

41. For Biden. Without a doubt.

Also, against 45.

[Codeine]

42. Yes. nt

[LAS14]

45. Against Sanders. nt

[DavidDvorkin]

46. Both.

[wiggs]

47. False choice. more complicated, FOR: party, pelosi, clyburn, beto, pete, amy, obama, calmness,

a reliable vp choice probably, a reasonable pendulum swing not a wild one, boxer, reid, vicky kennedy, resolution, safety and predictability, anti-bloomberg sentiment, a recognition of the importance of South Carolina's vote, unity, the everyman who doesn't demand fealty, a recognition that House actions by united dems were correct, ...and more.

I think we need to get away from the mano a mano need for simple celebrity battles that partially got us here in the first place and that didn't previously allow sane good people like Gore and Kerry and Klobuchar and others (including Biden twice before) to rise to the office.

That...and another impeachment so that Trump and foreign oligarchs can't cheat their way to another potus.