"Maybe the Sanders supporters begging Warren to drop out and endorse their candidate should have

[highplainsdem]

thought of that when they were posting snake emojis."

Tweet from Democratic strategist Zac Petkanas.

Link to tweet

[JustAnotherGen]

1. And that moment in the debate

Where essentially Sanders stated Warren was lying about their discussion.

[oasis]

6. That situation revealed something about Bernie many weren't aware of.

Not a good look for him.

[relayerbob]

2. I suspect when she does, she will endorse the "real" Democrat

She's been emphasizing that a lot in her recent speeches and events. I've also noticed that a huge number of Warren voters switching to Biden and only a few switching to Sanders. I don't think people realize is that Warren people are pragmatic progressives, and in a lot of cases, don't like Sanders, his "revolution", and/or their tactics.

Working together, these candidates are unstoppable

[blm]

5. Warren vote isn't duped by big talk, since we seek COMPETENCE and RESULTS.

I think Sanders voters prefer talk and have no need for their candidate to prove competence at getting things done, let alone results.

That’s a pretty sad system of reward in my view.

[relayerbob]

10. Sadly, there is a lot of truth there

[Xipe Totec]

21. No sense in offending our future fellow travelers nt

[blm]

30. Sorry, but it is self evident.

Some people prefer dramatic talk over heavy lifting action.

[Xipe Totec]

38. Apparently, my humor is not. nt

[blm]

41. Oh. Heheh

Ya caught me in fighting mode, Xipe.

[Xipe Totec]

43. All good

Voted early in Texas for our gal.

[blm]

44. Our fourth primary here. Watch out for flying elbows.

Heheh

[hangaleft]

25. Apparently, I'm in the minority

Should Liz drop out, I will move to Bernie.

I just can’t bring myself to vote for Biden in the primary when it gets to my state.

Hopefully, Liz will still be in it. But, if she’s not, I will vote for Sanders. I love Liz, but her endorsement of Biden (if she does endorse Biden) will not influence my vote. I want a president who is going to fight to move the country forward. And Biden does not represent progress to me.

[blm]

29. She's staying in. She built the campaign for the long haul.

Early on. She’s a planner.

[sweetloukillbot]

39. She has a plan for that nt

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

51. Glad to have you aboard!! Couldn't vote for Joe unless everyone else drops out first.

Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!

[dansolo]

60. Bernie will fight all right

I just question about the moving the country forward bit. All he would do is fail, and cast the blame on everybody else.

[IluvPitties]

63. Biden will be a great president.

You will be pleasantly surprised.

[Sloumeau]

9. An awful lot of us Biden supporters voted for Hillary Clinton...

and a lot of us see the same kind of things that we liked in Hillary Clinton in Senator Warren. I've generally always gone with Biden, but there were times when I thought, "Warren, maybe?". I even changed my DU preference to her for a week right after she started pushing for Trump to be impeached just to be in solidarity with her.

Even though there is a lot of overlap between Warren's polices and Bernie's policies, Warren is sharp enough to know that declaring herself a "Socialist" or trying to make an enemy out of the current Democratic establishment would both risky moves. She's just a better politician than Bernie is. Bernie mostly benefits from the people who pulled the lever for him in 2016 habitually being willing to pull it again.

[relayerbob]

12. She's a *pragmatic* progressive

Let's face it, all of our candidates want roughly the same thing in the end. Peace, justice, stability, health care for everyone, an end to the wealth gap and a fix for global warming. What will get it done is the ability to work in, and with, teams. If any candidate is unable to negotiate a coalition among people who basically want the same thing, how on earth would they expect to do so over health care or global climate change?

[Hermit-The-Prog]

42. Yep. It takes teamwork to get things done. Warren knows this.

[blm]

16. Warren has been an outspoken advocate for accountable capitalism for 4 decades

and it is not about political appearances for her. It’s always been about building a financial industry infrastructure where capitalists are held to account for any exploitative programs they offer that are detrimental to the working families they target.

She wants capitalism to work for everybody not just the predators.


Accountable capitalism is the smartest platform a nominee could have.

[hangaleft]

26. I'm with you

[IluvPitties]

27. Biden has a lifetime of excellent service to our nation

and the right demeanor to bring stability back to the WH. We need him more than ever.

[relayerbob]

40. I wish people were seeing this also

It's very distressing that people who call themselves progressive are choosing a man with significantly fewer credentials than a woman who can get things done.

But don't underestimate Biden. He's always been an ACTUAL man of the people. And my guess is that every candidate in the race who wants a cabinet position and a seat at the table will get offered one, unless he or she refuses it.

I've had enough of the great divide, let's vote the GOP out once and for all, together, and we won't have to fear "reaching over" to our fellow Americans, even if we disagree.

[napi21]

53. Honestly, do you really believe Joe doesn't want the Senate to go Dem? Comon.

The thing he is arguing when he says he can work with both sides is to show the diff. between the current occupant of the
WH WON'T work with the Dems EVER! He said he is going to expand Obama Care with the hope of getting to single payer.

I'd love to see Liz as Pre. too, but I cant see it happening. I have dreamed about a Biden/Warren ticket. I've also heard chatter about Biden choosing Stacey Abrams from Ga.

We'll see.

[hangaleft]

55. Couldn't have said it better myself

Actually, except for the references to Obama, I have said pretty much the same thing. Repeatedly.

In any event, I’m in complete agreement with your post. Right down to the required disclaimer.

[Blue_true]

33. I seriously doubt that many voters still with Warren will go over to Bernie, a few will,

but most won't. Bernie's side has been very hostile to Warren for the last two months.

[Generic Other]

62. I am one of these voters

Switched to Biden after Warren dropped out.

[hlthe2b]

3. I try not to hold the extremes of the Sanders supporters against him, but geez.

Do they not realize that this (and much worse recent incidents) is behavior more in keeping with Trump supporters and how badly it "blows back" on their favored candidate?

[highplainsdem]

4. Since some of these people have been tweeting #bendtheknee, I don't think they care.

[LonePirate]

7. The Sanders' supporters attacks on Warren and her supporters on Twitter have been massive and ugly.

I stumbled across one who had accused her of being paid by the establishment to stay in the race and hurt Sanders. And that was a nice way of me to describe what was actually said.

[highplainsdem]

14. Did you see my OPs about what Krystal Ball has been saying about Warren?

[Gravitycollapse]

8. Probably not the same people?

[highplainsdem]

13. Apparently some of them are, like PatTheBerner:

My OP about one of his tweets today:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287611128


A couple of his earlier tweets about Warren:

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

[Gravitycollapse]

17. Well, f&@k that person.

As a Sanders supporter, I am also closely aligned with Warren. I see no reason to attack her.

[highplainsdem]

18. I wish all Sanders supporters were more like you. The really badly behaved ones are a minority, but

a very noisy one.

[samnsara]

34. and unfortunately the only ones that get air time..

[HarlanPepper]

11. This and the movement toward Biden by elected officials

Is a good example of what comes around goes around. Bernie has brought a lot of ill will on himself. This is when the bill comes due.

[CanonRay]

24. His supporters don't seem to grasp that concept

They think because people won't support Bernie they're stealing the election or it's some big freaking conspiracy. Bernie's an ornery coot that pisses people off. It's that simple.

[LakeArenal]

15. Just picture Nina Turner or Gabbard as VP

That should really bring everyone’s focus back on the real problem with Sanders.

[highplainsdem]

19. I'll have nightmares if I do that.

[world wide wally]

20. Uh oh,...I think Liz may be a part of the "Establishment"

[Layzeebeaver]

47. one should assume this is sarcasm...

Warren's policies indicate that even if she is "establishment" she proposes to establish strong boundaries regarding establishment systems in favour of working class people. Wake up.

[ashredux]

22. Warren will stay in to siphon votes FROM Bernie.....

She isn’t a bomb thrower

[dumptrump1]

28. She either stays in and deals with the embarrassment of losing her own state

or she drops out, endorses Bernie and joins a unified progressive front to actualize all the ideas she's been fighting for the last several decades.

[SunSeeker]

31. I am pretty sure most of her supporters would switch to Biden, not Bernie. nt

[DaDeacon]

46. You smoking that Good Sh*t lol

Some will sure but most progressive supporters aren't going moderate just cause.

[SunSeeker]

48. The ones who don't want to lose Congress are going to Biden, like I did.

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I started out favoring Warren, but she flubbed her M4A message and it was clear she wasn't getting Bernie supporters, so I gave up on her, though I like her a lot. But the most important thing for me is to beat Trump and flip the Senate.

Accusing people of "smoking sh*t" who disagree with you is a great way to get them on your candidate's side. Keep it up!

[DaDeacon]

49. Puff puff pass...lol

[SunSeeker]

50. Stay classy, DaDeacon. nt

[DaDeacon]

52. Same to you ...

[SunSeeker]

56. ...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-democrats-poll/biden-not-sanders-gains-in-popularity-after-warren-drops-out-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN20W31R?il=0

[Cha]

59. ..

See my post below,

[SunSeeker]

61. ...

[SunSeeker]

57. So Reuters must be smoking some skunky spliffs?

Biden, not Sanders, gains in popularity after Warren drops out: Reuters/Ipsos poll

Elizabeth Warren’s departure from the Democratic presidential race appears to have benefited front-runner Joe Biden more than Bernie Sanders, her liberal ally on many issues, according to a Reuters/Ipsos national opinion poll released on Monday.

The poll conducted from Friday to Monday showed that 47% of registered Democrats and independents said they would vote for Biden if their state’s nominating contests were held today, up 7 points from a similar poll that ran just before Warren suspended her campaign last Thursday.

Thirty percent said they would vote for Sanders, a senator from Vermont, unchanged from the previous poll.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-democrats-poll/biden-not-sanders-gains-in-popularity-after-warren-drops-out-reuters-ipsos-poll-idUSKBN20W31R?il=0

[Cha]

58. Oh yeah? Biden, not Sanders, gains in popularity after Warren drops out: Reuters/Ipsos poll

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287652600#top

[samnsara]

32. i dont think they..or their supporters...like each other.

[W_HAMILTON]

35. Warren should have been the one calling for Sanders to drop out.

I consider myself a progressive and I would have eagerly voted for Warren, if not for Sanders in the race. I dislike Sanders immensely -- this is coming from someone that voted for him in 2016, mind you -- and I will not cast my vote in a way that allows him to be our nominee. If it really is all about "Not me. Us." for the Sanders people, presumably they would have voted for Warren if Sanders had never declared since she would have been the strongest progressive out there. In such a situation, Warren would have also gotten many progressive voters like myself that are more than happy to vote for a progressive, just not Sanders and all the divisiveness that surrounds him.

Sanders being in the race probably prevented a progressive from winning the nomination. This is pretty much the story of his life, with his unique talent in alienating would-be allies always proving to be more of a hindrance to promoting the types of values he claims to espouse. His message may be worthwhile, but he is a poor messenger. He has implied repeatedly that he doesn't see the value in forging the types of relationships and goodwill necessary to bring about the change, he just thinks that his message is enough. It's not. I only hope that he hasn't set millions of young people out on a similarly failed course because it will only hurt progressivism in the decades ahead. If that were unfortunately to happen, it will be just yet another example of Sanders being his own worst enemy when it comes to getting progressive policies implemented.

[Blue_Tires]

36. I love how the Berners can have these scorched-Earth tactics

accuse folks like me of being corporate neocons when I've been volunteering for Dem campaigns before most of them were fucking born, claim the primary is rigged, accuse everyone of collusion, then say they're going to purge the "establishment Dems" and chop all our heads off like it's 1789 and then they have the unmitigated gall to question why we aren't chomping at the bit to form an alliance with them...

So it's clearly evident the Berners didn't learn shit after 2016... The only things they've improved on is gaming the media and trolling folks on social media...

[ehrnst]

37. Hear, hear!!

[Fiendish Thingy]

45. Warren has maximized her strategic power

If no one enters the convention with a majority, she may have enough delegates to play “kingmaker” in exchange for VP slot or VP veto for either Sanders or Biden.

March is going to be an interesting month.

[Cha]

54. Yep they should have