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Donkees

(31,408 posts) Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:24 PM Mar 2020

Bernie Led the Fight Against the Iraq War

March 2, 2020

I do not believe we will defeat Donald Trump with a candidate like Joe Biden who supported the Iraq War.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Bernie Led the Fight Against the Iraq War (Original Post) Donkees Mar 2020 OP

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2020 #1

You think the Iraq War is the top priority on voters' minds? TwilightZone Mar 2020 #2

Hillary Clinton voted for the Iraq war and still won the primary in 2016 William769 Mar 2020 #3

Ouch. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2020 #7

Two birds, one stone. William769 Mar 2020 #8

Well-timed, and accurately thrown. TheCowsCameHome Mar 2020 #10

Obama was against the War and Won the Presidency. bahrbearian Mar 2020 #11

He also won the nomination. William769 Mar 2020 #12

Hilliary lost to Trump bahrbearian Mar 2020 #13

Hillary won the popular vote. William769 Mar 2020 #15

So we are going by the popular vote now. bahrbearian Mar 2020 #19

Primaries & general elections are two different things. William769 Mar 2020 #20

What are you talking about? LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #21

Are you? Both Superdelegate BS and his campaign chair Superdelegate Nina Turner are superdelegates. lapucelle Mar 2020 #22

There are no super delegates in a Democracy. bahrbearian Mar 2020 #34

Anyone who believes that should probably ask why BS and Nina lapucelle Mar 2020 #35

Exactly. And she won popular vote in general SiliconValley_Dem Mar 2020 #25

K&R CentralMass Mar 2020 #4

Well, he does seem to have a thing for dictators. nt jmg257 Mar 2020 #5

I hope your post isn't implying Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #16

He "has criticized authoritarian regimes and will not stand for human rights abuses. ..." pampango Mar 2020 #30

The vote was 17 years ago. It's almost old enough to vote. AGeddy Mar 2020 #6

The IWR was a not a vote of support for Bush's invasion. Sparkly Mar 2020 #9

Exactly. I've been saying that for almost 20 years now, greeted with "we knew bush would lie". George II Mar 2020 #29

Sanders was in a safe position to make that vote and that is the only reason it was done. LizBeth Mar 2020 #14

That was a long time ago. Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #17

Can we keep our eyes focused on the future? Politicub Mar 2020 #18

How'd they vote on the Brady Bill and the PLCAA? lapucelle Mar 2020 #23

Bernie made a career being against everything and doc03 Mar 2020 #24

Another failure, just like his stance on gunz. Hoyt Mar 2020 #26

Come on. Please??? George II Mar 2020 #27

That's another example of Bernie not accomplishing anything Renew Deal Mar 2020 #28

What successes has Bernie had? Warren built an entire agency from scratch blm Mar 2020 #31

Don't forget his votes against the Brady Bill and the Magnitsky Act tishaLA Mar 2020 #32

No He Didn't Me. Mar 2020 #33

Uncle Joe

(58,363 posts)

1. Kicked and recommended.

Reply to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:28 PM

Mar 2020

Thanks for the thread Donkees.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)

2. You think the Iraq War is the top priority on voters' minds?

Reply to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:31 PM

Mar 2020

Hardly. Health care, especially with the coronavirus spreading, will be the #1 issue, by far, as it was in 2018.

Immigration, economic issues, education, gun rights, choice, equality, Trump. Those are the things voters are concerned with. They're not going to rank one Joe Biden vote a couple of decades ago ahead of any of those things.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

William769

(55,147 posts)

3. Hillary Clinton voted for the Iraq war and still won the primary in 2016

Reply to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:33 PM

Mar 2020

Just saying.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)

7. Ouch.

Reply to William769 (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:40 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

William769

(55,147 posts)

8. Two birds, one stone.

Reply to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:43 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)

10. Well-timed, and accurately thrown.

Reply to William769 (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:45 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)

11. Obama was against the War and Won the Presidency.

Reply to William769 (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:48 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

William769

(55,147 posts)

12. He also won the nomination.

Reply to bahrbearian (Reply #11)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:49 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)

13. Hilliary lost to Trump

Reply to William769 (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:50 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

William769

(55,147 posts)

15. Hillary won the popular vote.

Reply to bahrbearian (Reply #13)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:51 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)

19. So we are going by the popular vote now.

Reply to William769 (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 06:12 PM

Mar 2020

Except for in the primaries? I'm going to assume that you are against super delegates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

William769

(55,147 posts)

20. Primaries & general elections are two different things.

Reply to bahrbearian (Reply #19)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 06:25 PM

Mar 2020

The sooner you learn that the better off politically you will be. Also when you learn how a Democratic primary works, you will be able to debate much better.

I am for super delegates.

Have a nice day.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

LiberalFighter

(50,931 posts)

21. What are you talking about?

Reply to bahrbearian (Reply #19)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 06:35 PM

Mar 2020

Hillary got over 3.7 million more votes than Sanders. Percent it was 55.23 Clinton and 43.13 for Sanders.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

lapucelle

(18,265 posts)

22. Are you? Both Superdelegate BS and his campaign chair Superdelegate Nina Turner are superdelegates.

Reply to bahrbearian (Reply #19)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 06:35 PM

Mar 2020

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2020_Democratic_Party_automatic_delegates

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

bahrbearian

(13,466 posts)

34. There are no super delegates in a Democracy.

Reply to lapucelle (Reply #22)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:33 PM

Mar 2020

There are in an Oligarchy

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

lapucelle

(18,265 posts)

35. Anyone who believes that should probably ask why BS and Nina

Reply to bahrbearian (Reply #34)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:49 PM

Mar 2020

have not relinquished their role as superdelegates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

SiliconValley_Dem

(1,656 posts)

25. Exactly. And she won popular vote in general

Reply to William769 (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 06:47 PM

Mar 2020

So clearly the majority of Americans are’s basing their vote on use of force authorization.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)

4. K&R

Reply to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:36 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

jmg257

(11,996 posts)

5. Well, he does seem to have a thing for dictators. nt

Reply to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:37 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Turin_C3PO

(13,992 posts)

16. I hope your post isn't implying

Reply to jmg257 (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:53 PM

Mar 2020

that not supporting our illegal war in Iraq is “supporting dictators”.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

pampango

(24,692 posts)

30. He "has criticized authoritarian regimes and will not stand for human rights abuses. ..."

Reply to jmg257 (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 06:50 PM

Mar 2020

Link to tweet

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

AGeddy

(509 posts)

6. The vote was 17 years ago. It's almost old enough to vote.

Reply to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:37 PM

Mar 2020

Literally nobody gives a damn about a 17-year-old vote anymore.

If they did, Bernie supporters would be upset about Bernie being pro-NRA back then.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Sparkly

(24,149 posts)

9. The IWR was a not a vote of support for Bush's invasion.

Reply to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:45 PM

Mar 2020

Are we going to argue this issue all over again? I thought we finished this in the 2004 primaries.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

29. Exactly. I've been saying that for almost 20 years now, greeted with "we knew bush would lie".

Reply to Sparkly (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 06:50 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)

14. Sanders was in a safe position to make that vote and that is the only reason it was done.

Reply to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:50 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Turin_C3PO

(13,992 posts)

17. That was a long time ago.

Reply to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:53 PM

Mar 2020

Time to move on.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Politicub

(12,165 posts)

18. Can we keep our eyes focused on the future?

Reply to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 05:55 PM

Mar 2020

Biden has come to realize his vote was not a good one, and has shared that many times.

On the other hand, Sanders has so many pro-NRA votes, especially the worst one which made gun manufacturers immune from lawsuits.

Honestly, I don't think most Sanders supporters really care one way or the other, except for that the vote can be deployed as a cheap tactic to bash Biden.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

lapucelle

(18,265 posts)

23. How'd they vote on the Brady Bill and the PLCAA?

Reply to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 06:36 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

doc03

(35,338 posts)

24. Bernie made a career being against everything and

Reply to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 06:45 PM

Mar 2020

has no legislative accomplishments.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)

26. Another failure, just like his stance on gunz.

Reply to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 06:47 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

George II

(67,782 posts)

27. Come on. Please???

Reply to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 06:48 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

Renew Deal

(81,859 posts)

28. That's another example of Bernie not accomplishing anything

Reply to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 06:50 PM

Mar 2020

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

blm

(113,062 posts)

31. What successes has Bernie had? Warren built an entire agency from scratch

Reply to Donkees (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2020, 06:53 PM

Mar 2020

after she fought against the financial industry’s exploitation of working families. Bernie was against it, too, but never put in the EXTREMELY hard work to fight for it beyond rhetoric delivered on stage or in front of a camera.

Warren fights and has RESULTS. You prefer talk. OK, but some of us prefer COMPETENCE and RESULTS.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden