Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumThe rush to Biden has me very nervous
I am very nervous about the rush to embrace Joe Biden. Based on what? One good debate performance, and him winning the only primary hes ever won in his life?
Thin gruel, IMO.
This is the same Biden who misspoke yet again this week, saying he was running for the Senate. The same Biden who just this week had to admit he was never arrested in SA, a story he has told for years. The gaffe machine Biden we all know is still out there on the hustings, and who will remain out there. Only now, the alternatives are narrowing to socialist Sanders and billionaire Bloomberg, both of who are disliked by mainstream Ds. The rest of the field and the Party seem hell bent on putting all of our defeat tRump eggs in the Biden basket.
Sure, Biden has looked sharper over the past week or so, but whats to say he wont revert to the disengaged, two-steps-behind form that had concerned people over the length of this primary season?
Me? I expect Joe to drop that basket a couple of times between now and November, with a big assist from our Biden-gaffe-consumed media, not to mention the Rs and the Orange Monstrosity.
Yep. Im nervous.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
hlthe2b
(102,283 posts)Not to mention how hard the opposition has tried to prevent Trump from facing him?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)Except to fill up message boards like DU.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)But we dont get to decide. The media and the Rs decide that...which means there are no minor gaffes.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)I dont see that changing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jimfields33
(15,809 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
RelativelyJones
(898 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DavidDvorkin
(19,479 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
still_one
(92,211 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
DavidDvorkin
(19,479 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IronLionZion
(45,447 posts)and I'd feel better when he drops out
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
FoxNewsSucks
(10,434 posts)Warren and Sanders are more than good enough for me, and for the future
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Aint gonna happen.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
at140
(6,110 posts)because he has 66,000 million in the bank. Lack of funds is #1 reason candidates drop out.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JCMach1
(27,559 posts)Biden=Obama in that formula for people
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)For 8 years and are great friends. What is wrong with that?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JCMach1
(27,559 posts)people want competent neutral bureaucracy in a crisis...
When it becomes existential, economic revolution is not at the top of the list.
Essentially, the playing field shifted over the last 7 days.
Also doesn't mean Sanders can't win... it just got a lot harder is all.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)After what we have been subjected to for 3 years people are ready for expertise, common sense Leadership once again.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
JCMach1
(27,559 posts)I was certain Biden was going to win SC. Keep in mind most polls were much lower than the actual vote.
By Friday, I was predicting the only question was whether Biden would reach 50%.
I fully expect Biden to overperform again tomorrow.
Predictions for tomorrow:
CA: Sanders by less than 10%
TX: Biden by 5-10%
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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JCMach1
(27,559 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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LizBeth
(9,952 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)No one was rushing toward Biden until after SC.
Your point?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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squirecam
(2,706 posts)Led to the repubs nominating Trump.
We arent going to do that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)and not a former Republican who supported Bush, fund GOP candidates, illegally detained protesters and advocated for a racist policy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)Base my decision one one performance. I doubt many others did that.
My decision is based on many things, including the many years Joe has conducted himself with common sense and dignity. That includes as Senator, 8 years of what he did as VP with Clinton.
It s also how he has conducted his personal life over the years. I see the respect he has earned over his long public service.
I am a moderate who takes time to study, observe and listen before I do anything.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,291 posts)Real Democrats do not want Kevin McCarthy become speaker due to sanders being on the top of the ballot
Link to tweet
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
4now
(1,596 posts)Sanders support seems to be vaporizing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Pisces
(5,599 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vogon_Glory
(9,118 posts)But this year hes running against a man who seems to lie with every other sentence, so I dont think itll matter that much.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
CincyDem
(6,363 posts)...a functional government that recognizes womens rights are human rights, that reuniting kids in cages with their parents is an imperative, that immigrants are the backbone of our future and that any claim of racial supremacy is a stain on our country.
If Joes gaffes are enough to cause us to throw all that (and more) away...then god save us all from another 4 years of Trump.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
genxlib
(5,528 posts)The "bloom" certainly came off of that Bloomberg rose in the last couple of weeks. A well orchestrated image through purchased airtime can crumble in a heartbeat when the same old personality impaired guy has to show up at a debate.
And Sanders reminded us last week how he sees himself as the savior standing against both parties. Not to mention, he made a stir by saying that Castro made the trains run on time (I mean literacy). He can't dodge all of the questionable things he has said in the past. And worst, he doesn't seem to want to.
They are all imperfect for various reasons. Joe was not my first choice but he is a good one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Didn't stick last time, and certainly illustrated a lot of people as intolerant and out-of-touch.
That's probably why you're nervous.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)This guy (me) has been voting D since 1972.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)Now that we have a racist, misogynist, criminal in the White House who taunts, swears, and misspeaks like a 12 year old drug addled street hood, I dont share your concern.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,719 posts)Trump is the mortal enemy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,719 posts)Bloomberg has plenty of skeletons in his closet, but I'd vote for him over Trump without hesitation. But suit yourself.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Me.
(35,454 posts)I've just recently heard Maya Wiley and others talking about the way he disenfranchised the voters of NYC to get that 3rd term he brags about so please don't act as if Bloomberg is all that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join The Revolution!!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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Bayard
(22,075 posts)Is a fake. It was altered to cut out the first part talking about how he used to start his senate campaigns.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)ok, sure.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Shermann
(7,423 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Bloomberg represents the worst possible option to me. Hoping Super Tuesday will be the end of his campaign. Sanders and/or Warren would be the best outcome at this point.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
pattyloutwo
(279 posts)And am really surprised Warren supporters are giving in before Super Tuesday. If everyone votes for who they they think is the best candidate rather than who they think can win/ is winning, Warren will do great tomorrow!
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
themaguffin
(3,826 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
uponit7771
(90,346 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Moderateguy
(945 posts)SC proved that and with Bernie constantly attacking the Democratic Party the stakes are pretty high...So yes the Party is closing ranks around the moderate they think can win.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)We will have historically low black turn out.
I'm sorry - but that's what I think.
*I* would vote for him - but his apologies might be too late for my nephews, my brother, and a lot o black Americans.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Denis Enko
(81 posts)Please pardon me for not sharing your view.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
stopbush
(24,396 posts)I seriously doubt that tRump will agree to debates this fall. He will simply do rallies and the media will once again give him billions of dollars worth of free media time.
The only antidote will be paid media, and only Mike can afford it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bucky
(54,014 posts)I don't trust it and I don't trust him. There's no such thing in politics as money without strings.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I don't understand it since Biden was over 50 points ahead before he even decided to run, that everyone froze while people learned if the VP elephant in the nation would run, and he was far out ahead of a second-tier group double digits behind him for an entire year.
And that, extremely peculiarly, right before IA his name and Sanders' were suddenly and bizarrely reversed on polls and it was Sanders who came from far behind to suddenly be far ahead and it was America's most liked candidate who was far behind. All within a handful of weeks.
But hey, if being nervous at a threat of normality is how you want to roll, a suggestion that the RW and Russian election subversion we know they've had in the works for 3 years failed in SC, best wishes for a really fearsome, dripping nervous sweat.
That's all.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)No question Bloomberg would have greater opportunity in November than Biden will. Now we are mostly dependent on Trump dropping in the approval rating.
I share concerns about Biden's age leading to memory lapses and mistakes.
No question Biden has greater opportunity to defeat Trump than Sanders would.
We are making the cautious choice. I can understand Michael Moore's concern even though he was riding the wrong horse.
Bloomberg presented us with an incredible gift of teflon and awe. We threw it away based on unfortunate stuff that wouldn't impact him in November at all.
Day to day detail types make that type of blunder all the time
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Turin_C3PO
(13,999 posts)I think he would seriously suppress black turnout even more than 2016.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tarheelsunc
(2,117 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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mikelgb
(6,021 posts)the Ukraine crap will come back too but the co-opting of #metoo movement is the real worry
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
zackymilly
(2,375 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mikelgb
(6,021 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,307 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden