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beastie boy

(9,367 posts)
1. This is like asking if there is a better illustration of why we need pay for a fleet of Teslas to
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 01:40 PM
Mar 2020

get people from Point A to Point B in response to a tweet telling us that many people will have to pay a cab fare to get from point A to point B.

Does anyone seriously believe that a fleet of Teslas is the only, or the best solution to traveling from Point A to Point B?

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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
2. No, it's nothing like that. At all.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 01:41 PM
Mar 2020
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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
3. Yes, it's quite like that.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 01:44 PM
Mar 2020

But, as it runs counter to a particular biases and fails to stroke sacred cows, I can certainly understand why you would deny the obvious.

Denying the Obvious. That seems a new tactic you guys are taking out for a drive this week; but I don't think anyone will be able to get much mileage out of it.

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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
4. No, it's really not.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 01:47 PM
Mar 2020

M4A is an idea widely supported by healthcare experts, including in peer-reviewed journals. It's implemented successfully in many countries around the world, where the results are lower costs and better health outcomes.

A "fleet of Teslas" is nothing like that. And it's a testament to the weakness of arguments against M4A that this is what they boil down to.

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LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
7. Yes. It really is.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 01:58 PM
Mar 2020

The sentiments you express to deny otherwise do not in fact, deny otherwise.

It's a testament to your consistent usage of logical fallacies is what it boils down to...

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beastie boy

(9,367 posts)
5. M4A is but one of many possible plans to pay for a vaccine. It's a brand.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 01:50 PM
Mar 2020

Insisting that one brand is superior, let alone the only solution to the situation described in the tweet is... shall we say, a bit... immodest?

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brooklynite

(94,588 posts)
6. Agree, now tell us how you're going to get it.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 01:52 PM
Mar 2020
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AGeddy

(509 posts)
8. With Bernie as the nominee, we'll get NONE of those things - because he can't beat Trump
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 01:59 PM
Mar 2020

And Trump knows it.

Which is why Trump is trying like hell to help Bernie get the nomination.
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lees1975

(3,860 posts)
10. Well, there's no polling data that shows that.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:27 PM
Mar 2020

None. Trump has made a record that he can't run on. In fact, Bernie actually does better against Trump in battleground states than Biden does.

This is one of those elections in which the Democratic candidate has been set up to win with a very wide, deep base of support. Bernie ran anywhere from 8 to 11 points ahead of Trump in 2016 when they were still doing head to head polls.

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judeling

(1,086 posts)
9. Certainly an argument for Universal Health insurance.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:06 PM
Mar 2020

However we can get to that fastest.

But in this case all of the current actors are for it, including the Insurance Companies.

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LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
11. Yes, on the one hand. On the other would be the overwhelming number of people using limited
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 02:56 PM
Mar 2020

resources which would have a whole other set of issues.

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