It's down to Sanders and Biden? (poll)

[left-of-center2012]

Which of the two do you choose?

86 votes, 3 passes | Time left: Unlimited
	Sanders
	11 (13%)
	Biden
	75 (87%)
	3 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[totodeinhere]

1. Sanders always loses these completely unscientific polls at DU. n/t

[Codeine]

3. Probably because we're the DemocraticUnderground

rather than the IndependentExceptWhenConvenientUnderground.

[Sloumeau]

4. ROFL

[IllinoisBirdWatcher]

28. +1

[totodeinhere]

7. I'm not sure how much that "IndependentExceptWhenConvenient" tag is resonating with the

greater Democratic electorate however.

[Codeine]

10. And that's fine, I'm just explaining

why Bernie often gets a tepid response here from lifelong dedicated Democratic partisans.

[Generic Brad]

11. Check out South Carolina

Your answer can be found there.

[totodeinhere]

12. It's always a mistake to make too many broad conclusions from just one state.

That applies to both Bernie's win in Nevada and Joe's win in S.C. I think we will have more definitive results after Tuesday.

[George II]

16. We weren't told that on February 3 or February 11 or February 22. Now we're hearing it?

[totodeinhere]

18. Plenty of people at DU were saying just that. Come on. n/t

[NurseJackie]

14. OMG! ROFL! BRILLIANT!!

Probably because we're the DemocraticUnderground rather than the IndependentExceptWhenConvenientUnderground.

[onetexan]

37. Lol ditto. This is reflective of the pulse of America right here

[George II]

15. Bazinga!

[ehrnst]

23. .....

[Gore1FL]

26. More like Moderate Underground, anymore.

Things haven't been the same since the great purge.

[TwilightZone]

29. Well, there are still a couple dozen people at JPR.

They all seem to claim that they're victims of said "purge".

Perhaps you'd like to join them, though at the moment, they're busy calling Elizabeth Warren the C word, so I'm not sure I'd recommend it.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1287&pid=602876

There was no purge. A bunch of shit-stirring jackasses flamed out and then acted like they did nothing wrong. Clearly, they haven't changed, and good riddance.

[Gore1FL]

49. I have a sign-on at that site.

I can take examples of DU and paint it badly too.

Yippee!

What do we get as a prize? Trump?

There was a concerted effort to drive people off-- just like your post suggested of me. It worked for quite a number. Please don't try to gaslight my experience. Please don't imply original DUers, like myself, should leave.

[Codeine]

30. Those people "purged" themselves

by being anti-Hillary assholes.

[Gore1FL]

47. Driven off by assholic behavior, is my recollection. nt

[Codeine]

53. The alert swarms suggested otherwise,

and their resultant behavior over at JPR has not led me to believe their migration has been anything other than an improvement.

[Gore1FL]

56. I suspect they can point to people here and clutch their pearls the same, I guess.

Because what we need is a fractured left....

[Codeine]

57. They're calling Warren the c-word

and photoshopped shit onto the seat of Clinton’s pants in the last campaign.

They also pimped the Pizzagate story.

There. Is. No. Fucking. Comparison.

[Gore1FL]

61. There are assholes everywhere.

There are a lot of ways to make places unwelcoming. It usually not a wise move.

[Happy Hoosier]

59. Yeah, just read JPR....

... and tell me they are just misunderstood "Progressives."

Anyone who is not Bernie or Tulsi Gabbard is called the most vile of names.

[Gore1FL]

62. I am not here to defend JPR.

It's funny how that place butt-hurts so many people here so much, though.

[Happy Hoosier]

63. LOL... Whatever. You sure seem to want to stir the pot. NT

[Gore1FL]

65. Not really. My contention all along has been we need to unite the left.

One way to do that is to give up on the 30+ years failed traditional of going after the General election version of Susan Collins voters and maybe re-examining the values that make us liberal in the first place.

[Codeine]

64. Anyone with basic human decency

is disgusted by people like that. That you continue to defend them speaks volumes.

[Gore1FL]

66. I am disgusted by a lot things. I didn't know it was a contest. nt

[Cha]

32. Snap!

[mindem]

35. You got that right

[robbedvoter]

40. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[grantcart]

50. Democratic plus Self Absorbed Visitor Underground

[stopbush]

51. +1000

[Happy Hoosier]

9. I remember in 2016 when Berners....

... were constantly touting internet polls and Ha Ha Goodman. Oh yeah, and "Sane Progressive."

[H2O Man]

2. Other

Recommended.

I think it will be interesting to see Tuesday's results. Logic would hold that one or more candidates will drop out of the contest this week. But our primaries do not seem to always follow a logical path.

But Joe Biden had an impressive and important victory yesterday. That was good to see.

Good luck to all of our candidates on Tuesday.

[Laelth]

20. Well said, as usual. n/t

-Laelth

[Gore1FL]

27. I too am "Other."

I am not a particular fan of either and refuse to see either with a meaningful clench on the nomination.

[Prue]

5. I'll shift my support to Biden

[rzemanfl]

8. I already have. I am thinking about the tiny socks my kids wore when they

were little.

[TwilightZone]

6. This is going to make SC look like a close race.

[Baked Potato]

13. What? No Bloomberg in your poll?

[Moderateguy]

24. I'm a Bloomberg supporter

And even I think this is pretty much a Sanders V Biden race

[YOHABLO]

17. Well the Biden supporters have alienated the Sanders supporters.

I think many Sanders supporters have left DU. Can't say I blame them. Biden wins S.C. to save his his candidacy, and all of a sudden he's got this thing wrapped up? OK Biden folks, let me have it, as I know you will.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

33. I've been mostly silent, letting them have their fun.

I’ll support any Democratic nominee over Trump.

Many recent posts lead me to believe it won’t be reciprocated if Sanders is the nominee, and I now wish that I’d been here to witness the various posts during the 2016 primaries.

[YOHABLO]

36. I was here in 2016, but took a nice break from DU.

I think I'll wait till Super Tuesday to decide if another break is at hand. Of course I will vote for the Democratic candidate as well. Because I live in GA, our primary is 2nd to last, that being being Puerto Rico, so I'm sure by the end of March we'll know who's in the lead. I live in a red state, usually the Republican will get all of the electoral votes. So there you have it. So much for my vote counting.

I've been a member on here since 2011, and I'm just realizing that we might be Democrats in name only. Where our party goes on from here may be determined from this election.

[brer cat]

45. GA isn't second to last.

There are a lot of primaries in April, May and June.

[YOHABLO]

67. I am referring to March. Sorry.

[Cha]

38. That's wrong, YOHABLO.. no one thinks "Biden has this

wrapped up because he won SC" so overwhelmingly.. But he is back in the race!

[YOHABLO]

39. Whenever someone says ''no one thinks'' I ponder.

[Cha]

41. Wonder away, YOHABLO.. I have not seen anyone who

thinks "Biden has this wrapped up" as you asserted.

[YOHABLO]

42. I said 'ponder' not 'wonder'. Now, you've said "I have not seen anyone''

Funny, I have not "seen" anyone either. But I do read their posts.

[Cha]

43. Yeah, I know.. I tried to edit it but the software wouldn't

let me.. So "Ponder" away, YOHABLO.. I still haven't seen anyone say "Biden has this wrapped up"

[YOHABLO]

68. Well if you go back read what I wrote you'll see I end the sentence with a (?) question mark.

So I was merely asking the question.

[Hortensis]

44. 3/4 of Sanders primary voters voted Democrats in 2016,

as they always intended. Hillary was in fact a very satisfactory second choice for almost all. They told interviewers so.

The other, unfortunate quarter either voted for Trump (HALF of these!) or acted out their hostility and rejection by voting for another candidate, most claiming they'd been cheated, "rigged," and driven away, Hillary was corrupt, etc. Rubbish.

Pretense that they didn't come into 2016 intending just that was blasted every time those studying them asked them what they'd do. They wanted everyone to know they implicitly believed all Sanders lies and their rejection of the Democratic Party. DU was the only place where they had to watch their words.

And now this minority of Sanders followers once again came into 2019 openly declaring their intention of voting to defeat Democrats if Sanders wasn't the nominee. We know that, again, WHY? Because they SAY so, every time pollsters and others gave them a chance to blab their attitudes and intent. DU's the only place those who might come here need to hide what they are.

Here's a clue to who's who: Good liberal Democrats like the 3/4 may be irritated by comments but they won't be irritated into abandoning their liberal principles and goals out of spite and more than the rest of us. That's what principles mean.

[JudyM]

58. Maybe the other 1/4 were not democrats, but independents.

[Hortensis]

60. Sure, maybe some. Does label say more

than behavior, though?

One thing, Pew has found that "indies" average less involved and caring than those who stay affiliated with a party and vote in lower numbers.

These angry partisans aren't like that. Most develop uber passionate attachments, even if temporary, to their one chosen dissident leader and similarly passionate antagonisms toward all who don't also align with their leader. In 2016, only 2% of that quarter didn't vote at all after Sanders lost. That's of course very low.

[Cary]

46. Why would you be "alienated" by a supporter?

I assure you that as a Sanders supporter you have zero affect on me, unless you bring logic and reason. If this is an example of what you consider to be logic, your affect is zero.

[LakeArenal]

54. You mean they took their ball home.

[Miles Archer]

55. I'm not going to let anyone "have it."

Biden was my choice from Day 1.

That's my prerogative, my right.

I haven't written a single negative word about any candidate.

So I don't know how "Biden folks" are defined, since I haven't defined any other "folks" who also exercised their freedom to back their candidate of choice.

If I'm celebrating Biden right now, it's because I'm celebrating Biden right now, and it's not at the expense of anyone who was in or is in the race.

Division is division and I'll have no part of it.

[Laelth]

19. Bloomberg hasn't even appeared on a ballot yet.

I voted "pass" because I don't think that the race has narrowed down to only two candidates quite yet.

-Laelth

[Laura PourMeADrink]

21. Hurry before tRussia manipulates this poll

[susanr516]

22. I'll have to see the Super Tuesday results

Early voting began a few weeks ago in several states. It will be interesting to see the difference between those who voted early and those who waited until Election Day. Although I voted early, I know several people here in Texas who passed on Early Voting to see what happened in SC.

[andym]

25. 538 says 60 chance no one wins enough delegates

at the moment. So it could be anyone.

[mainer]

31. I'm a Warren supporter, but I'm going to vote for Biden in Maine

We can't afford to lose this one in November.

[SMC22307]

34. FFS, can we get through Super Tuesday? (n/t)

[Gothmog]

48. Pete Buttigieg & Joe Biden have exchanged voicemails about consolidating support

Link to tweet

[customerserviceguy]

52. Don't forget

about Bloomie. He didn't spend a half a billion dollars for nothing. If he cannot finish above third place in any of the Super Tuesday states, I would consider him politically dead, but if he can eke out some second place finishes and maybe one or two first place finishes, he'll go all the way to the convention, offering to pay for super-PACs to aid the election campaigns of superdelegates who go his way.