Democratic Primaries
Related: About this forumWe deserve to have Elizabeth Warren as our President. She would not draft policies by
sticking her finger in the wind to see how the wind blows....yet professed supporters are
abandoning their vote for her in exactly that fashion...a finger in the wind.
Either you believe she is the most capable or you dont. I simply do not understand abandoning her.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/27/opinion/sunday/elizabeth-warren-2020.html?referringSource=articleShare
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Demsrule86
(68,631 posts)get the nomination...I was a Deaniac...I get it.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tweedy
(628 posts)Or did you let a bunch of talking heads talk you out of it?
Maybe had folks stuck to former Governor Dean, we would not be where we are today.
Pundits are not sages. More importantly, a pundits definition of the best candidate is rarely reflected by lived reality.
We need to make up our own minds. That way is the path to success.
In 2008, the talk was very loud saying Barack Obama just could not win, the country was not ready. Many I knew were worried and did not vote for him on Super Tuesday. He lost my state.
Yet, Barack Obama went on to win and he won big because more of us stuck with our own beliefs rather than running to what we were told was the safer choice.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
groundloop
(11,520 posts)It looks like we're going to base our choice on the results from just 3 states, 2 of them very lily white.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BComplex
(8,059 posts)I'm totally in favor of Elizabeth Warren getting elected, and I know that if people voted their hearts instead of trying to second-guess some pie-in-the-sky strategy, she would have had a lot more success in her delegate count.
I still hope she pulls a rabbit out of the hat.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Tweedy
(628 posts)Our vote belongs to us, alone
Imho
Without Elizabeth Warren on that stage, everything is worse
With Elizabeth Warren we win and we build a stable foundation under this country for the next half century.
But we can win with a potted plant
AND
Still we can build a stable foundation for the next century
It will simply be more difficult without Elizabeth Warren at the helm.
Regardless of agreement with me, your vote belongs to you. Vote your truth, not the belief of another wholly disconnected from you.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Nt
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)538 currently says that the most likely outcome (59%) is that no one arrives at the convention with enough delegates. In that scenario, it is not impossible that someone who didn't come in at the top could still be the nominee.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Is that someone fourth in delegates wins?
That isnt going to happen.
Warren could throw her delegates to another, and maybe get a cabinet or VP slot. But there is no way that she gets the presidency.
Its time to be realistic.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)People have mentioned Sherrod Brown for example.
I'm not by any means saying I think Warren will get the nomination, or even has a decent likelihood of it. I'm just saying it's not absolutely impossible.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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squirecam
(2,706 posts)If you suspend, you stop actively campaigning.
Doesnt mean you couldnt come back in a severe emergency.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,631 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)I still hope Amy wins Minnesota.
Yet I am realistic and expect her to suspend her campaign after Super Tuesday.
At that point, I hope she becomes Bidens VP.
What Im not going to do is hope for some contested convention, tearing the party apart, on some vain hope that a candidate finishing with little delegates becomes president. Its nonsense and unrealistic.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Won't we have a brokered convention?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
McKim
(2,412 posts)Does being realistic mean that you give up your hopes and dreams and wait a few more years for some crumbs? As Mick Jasper famously sang in Ruby Tuesday, Lose your dreams and you will lose your mind!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Shermann
(7,423 posts)...and give up on the rock star dreams.
So, yes. Sometimes. Unfortunately.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)about being positive about yourself. Politics requires working with others.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Curtis
(348 posts)This is an exhausting statement. She has just as much of a path as the person you support (Klobuchar). The problem is that Americans have this overwhelming desire or need to be on the "perceived" winning team that they will abandon their own common sense in order to feed that need. I've never understood that need in my political life. I studied it through grad school and worked against it during my 20+ year career in the political arena. It's exhausting. People always say, "I love candidate x, but she/he can't win so I will vote for candidate y." What people do not realize is that if they didn't bail on candidate x in the first place she/he would freaking win and would have a path to the nomination. It's the most frustrating and crazy thing about American politics. You don't always have to vote for the perceived winner.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
nbsmom
(591 posts)So who is really viable at this point? Biden who has had NO PRESENCE in CA? Or Warren who's polling at 17% and has much more organization and infrastructure in CA?
Remember in CA, many of the counties vote by mail, which means that a significant percentage won't be known for days or possibly weeks. The campaigns know this, so the rush to make it a cage match between Biden and Bernie is HORRIBLY premature. WE SPENT A WHOLE YEAR TALKING TO IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE and now we want to rushor even negatethe votes in CA and TX? Warren has a LOT of support among the people who went for Bernie in 2016. (For all we know, Bernie is still counting them in his polling data because it makes him look more realistic.)
FTR, I and my family have already voted for Warren. We are #BlueNoMatterWho but want to support a candidate who will get things done and who will support the down-ticket races in CA and elsewhere. (Would prefer that Bernie isn't the candidate, as the candidates backed by Our Revolution in 2018 lost every race.)
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
paleotn
(17,937 posts)The correct statement for both candidates is ....she has a very unlikely path to the nomination. Stranger things have happened, but at this point it doesn't look good.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
xmas74
(29,674 posts)But I always have a backup during the primary season. She will get my vote on March 10 but if she drops I'll be with Biden.
One of my friends is on his fourth backup now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Bettie
(16,117 posts)are the only capable ones.
I'm so frustrated. She is amazing, but she's missing that crucial thing: male genitalia.
I really don't believe we'll ever have a female president, given what I'm seeing even around here.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
xmas74
(29,674 posts)She's getting my vote on the 10th.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)She will have a lot of votes in Columbia on the 10th. Bernie will have a lot of votes here, too. I don't know what the rest of the state looks like, but she is very strong here.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)unfortunately, but if she is still in the running then I will vote for her
UNLESS
it is a Bernie vs. Joe choice. I must go with Joe. I have listened to Bernie (and even voted for him in our 2016 primary) and I do not feel he is substantial enough for me on the issues and is unwinnable against Trump.
But up to then, I am with Warren, supporting her principles and her policies.
AND WE NEED A WOMAN PRESIDENT!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Biden won the conservative Black vote in SC, but in other locales, he will be 2016 all over again.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)the way we are now. This is survival of our country at stake in the starkest terms.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Happy Hoosier
(7,359 posts)... in my primary. But it wont Happen. There is no sign of that happening. Ive sent her a ton of cash. Ive done what I can.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
xmas74
(29,674 posts)But current projections show Biden with a majority.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Yinka!! I really like the way he knows the details of the office he's running for and he's very dedicated to serving in the public interest. It's time to send the Ashcrofts home for good.
We have an opportunity to elect the first woman governor and the first non white person to a state-wide office in MO.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
xmas74
(29,674 posts)You're in the Fourth,right? Have you met Lindsey?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)I was leaning towards Erich. She doesn't actually impress me, because I (and people like me) didn't even exist in her world view until I reached out. I will vote for her without a doubt. Very excited about Judy Baker.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
xmas74
(29,674 posts)She's from Marshall, went to MO Valley, raised by a state worker (caregiver in group homes). She's really into environmental law. A Marshall girl who graduated from Harvard Law is huge. She's young but very open to feedback, especially in person. She has a toddler at home and her husband is active duty Army. If elected she would be the first to ever serve in Congress with an active duty spouse.
(Also very knowledgeable about Syria.)
If you were closer I'd invite you to attend the Kirkpatrick Dinner in March in Warrensburg. Most of them will be there and it's a great opportunity to meet them one-on-one. Heck, if you can ever make it up here I'd invite you to any of our events.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)She was ahead at one point, but went too soft on Bernie and did not look strong when pressed on MFA.
It's not a gender thing, IMO. I was for Kamala until she went violently negative on Biden on the STUPID non issue of busing.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PTWB
(4,131 posts)I was for Kamala until she dropped out.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)He helped President Obams to be successful. That's enough evidence right there, and black voters in SC showed their gratitude and support.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PTWB
(4,131 posts)Kamala took offense to Bidens unreasonable opposition to school bussing and his remarks about being bipartisan for working with segregationists (on issues other than segregation).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)He was Obama's right hand, and nothing will change that.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
PTWB
(4,131 posts)I dont dislike Joe but I dont find that much to like about him either. Hes a solid Democrat but lord he seems so out of touch. Joe wasnt my first choice. Or my second. Nor is he my third or fourth. Id vote for Joe before Bloomberg but that bar is pretty low.
Harris > Warren > Buttigieg > Sanders > Biden > all others
Joe is no Barack Obama.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Demsrule86
(68,631 posts)well liked in Ohio and could actually win Ohio.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)and spent a lot of time with him while they were in office. Obama knew Joe was a good running mate because Obama was somewhat liable to criticism of not having experience. Obama is smart, and knows how to pick people for advice.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)There is no clearer example of white male supremacy (as in an assumption white male superiority as part of conventional wisdom) than her and Booker's absence and Warren's losing ground.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
treestar
(82,383 posts)just because that alone means white supremacy.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Tom Steyer is one white man who takes responsibility for his past roles in white supremacy and commit to reparations. Bloomberg and Biden deny and defend their participation.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)"Too soft" "not strong" "violently negative"
Meanwhile n Joe pulls his tough guy routine, defends racist policies, hypocritically brags about the VAWA and has devotees who eat it up while he wins over Black voters who do know how to leverage political debt and angrily talks down to voters when confronted on his past. The disconnect is absurd.
No, Warren is not going to pull out the Scranton tough guy persona to attack Bernie because she has class and confidence and doesn't need to. That people think politicians need to take such positions reveals their insecurity. She doesn't play to the superficial reality TV watching public because she's the real deal.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)Jeez...
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)It's possible too own and correct bias when it becomes apparent. Read and learn:
More recently it has been shown a linguistic normativity effect according to which people tend to compare groups or individuals by mentioning first the more powerful or higher status ones (e.g., Compared to men, women are . . ., or Compared to fathers, mothers are . . .). This biased comparison implicitly favors the first mentioned group, which becomes the norm against which the other is compared (Pratto et al., 2007). Specifically, Bruckmüller et al. (2012) found that when men are mentioned as the referent group of comparison in a typically male (leadership) context, status inequalities are perceived as more legitimate and the gender stereotypes of men as agentic and women as communal are more readily endorsed. https://oxfordre.com/communication/view/10.1093/acrefore/9780190228613.001.0001/acrefore-9780190228613-e-470
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
blm
(113,079 posts)The women were treated differently for the most part and the backlashes against them were overthetop.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Apparently you forgot Hillary Clinton was the candidate in 2016.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LisaM
(27,818 posts)Dean's problem was a lack of specifics. I went and heard him speak and, while he seemed likeable and the crowd was enthusiastic, all I remember is "we're going to kick him out of Washington and send him back to Crawford!"
I saw Warren the other night, she was strong on specifics, got almost zero press coverage.
And she was excoriated when she pressed Bernie on his saying a woman couldn't win and he almost physically brushed her off. So when they say she wasn't tough on Bernie, look what happened when she even said one little thing.
M4A is a non-starter at the moment. Her pragmatism in realizing that shouldn't hurt her.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
bdamomma
(63,913 posts)is a very smart woman, and apparently smart women are demonized. Unfortunately, we are not in at that pinnacle of having a woman President as in other parts of the world, we have the other gender trying to thrust us back into the dark ages.
I for one want to live in the 21st century not the 1800's.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Evolve Dammit
(16,750 posts)They are coming after all New Deal programs and will keep going until slavery is back on the menu. We need Liz, Kamella and Amy to stay strong in the face of entitled, white "owners" who want it ALL. I'm looking at GOP mostly, but there is some in the Dem party as well. Liz would make a great running mate and VP at this point. I hope Sanders or Biden have the sense to conclude that. Bernie and Liz are so close ideologically, it would make total sense to get together now.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)until you mentioned
For me it's was the person who had the best chance of beating Dipshit. If Warren had the highest gap over trump, she'd be the one.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
treestar
(82,383 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,792 posts)They are intended to winnow the field and choose the strongest candidate. If people don't think their favorite candidate has a good chance to win the nomination they'll switch to someone else. Sometimes you just have to be pragmatic, and in the immortal words of Mick Jagger, you can't always get what you want.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ninga
(8,276 posts)couldnt win is not science.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Codeine
(25,586 posts)An argument could be made that shes the most qualified by a fair margin, and its an argument with which I would agree.
But shes losing. Shes losing badly. She didnt connect with voters the way she needed to and thus she has no path to the nomination. Would that it were so, but it isnt.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Chainfire
(17,582 posts)I does't matter so much who is the most qualified when all of the Democratic candidates are far better qualified than the sitting President. All of the Democrats who have dropped out are far more qualified than the President, Hell, half of the prison population is more qualified than the D. J.
It is imperative that we run the candidate with the best chance of winning the White House. Whenever that shakes out we will all need to forget our favorites unless we want for more years of chaos.
This is what we are facing, and it is going to take a miracle:
https://news.gallup.com/poll/284156/trump-job-approval-personal-best.aspx
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,792 posts)The issue for any candidate is whether they catch on with voters, and that's an intangible thing that isn't always based on qualifications - consider the fact that the most spectacularly unqualified person in the universe caught on with a whole lot of voters in 2016. I don't know why Warren isn't doing better - I like her a lot and I think she'd be a first-rate president. Sometimes candidates don't have an effective campaign organization or strategy. Sometimes their ads aren't effective. Sometimes they can't raise enough money. There are dozens of reasons why a particular candidate succeeds or not, and their qualifications (which different people weigh differently anyhow) is only one of them.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,832 posts)Joe started as the most qualified hell finish as such.
All the candidates were deserving. But only one can win. Thats the way it goes.
Your deserving is not the majority.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Vivienne235729
(3,384 posts)Maybe by then we would have healed enough to get M4A going. But, right now, we need to kick trump's large ass out to the curb. The republic is hanging by a thread. She won't appeal to the moderates and right of center folks. She doesn't appeal to POC. She has much work to do.
But right now, I think she needs to stay in the race and keep her name floating for as long as she can.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Codeine
(25,586 posts)and Warren is my strong second choice now, but her candidacy is in free fall and voters are naturally shifting their support to one of the two who can win. Thats just electoral politics.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Warren is brilliant and I would have been delighted for her to unite the party and lead the country.
Her wealth tax is reasonable, effective, and doable.
Unfortunately I believe that her effort to take over Sanders in the Sanders' lane limited her campaign.
On the upside she will be one of the intellectual leaders in the Senate under a Democratic Administration.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ninga
(8,276 posts)toss her aside is painful for me.
I really believe in her.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,792 posts)It might be a painful choice, but it's not capricious or treacherous.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Codeine
(25,586 posts)is a recipe for disaster. Politics is the art of the possible, and it is no longer possible for her to win. Now her supporters can choose to cast their vote for her knowing she wont win (totally reasonable, and Ive done that in the past) or shift their support to a front runner who most represents their goals.
Right now my goal is winning the election in November, so Ive shifted my support to Biden, as I am of the opinion that Sanders cannot win.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Kaleva
(36,320 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,079 posts)That remains true.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,832 posts)I say Joe is most capable. 🤷🏼?♀️
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,079 posts)Biden does not have the depth of knowledge, formed remedies, or experience in building the infrastructure needed to implement the change.
Thats not an opinion, its a fact. Ill be supporting him for sure, but, Im not going to pretend Warren is lesser in the areas that need structural change.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,832 posts)Depth of knowledge wtf.....
Worst opinion ever.
Talk about sour grapes. Bitter even.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,079 posts)with the depth of knowledge and experience to implement a comprehensive reform.
She is the only candidate who HAS done it and one of the few people who has accomplished the task of building a complete new government agency from the ground up in our lifetime.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,832 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,079 posts)a significant problem in this nation and became a cabinet level agency?
You can call bullshit all you like but, just as I cannot say that Warren is the one with the foreign policy experience, you cant say that Biden ever built a needed government agency based on his years of research, his ideas, and his remedial policy plans from the ground up.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,832 posts)Dont care about what I think.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
blm
(113,079 posts)You know you stepped in it.
Fini.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,832 posts)I may have stepped in it but thats cuz you are spreading it all over.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)Will be Sanders or Biden.
I wish it was different. But wishing wont make it so.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
duforsure
(11,885 posts)And I think she's the most capable candidate that has the intellect and backbone to be able to hold these criminals accountable, and the others don't. Biden already had his shot to stop Putin, trump, and Moscow Mitch, and he failed, and Bernie has health issues, so she's easily my pick,. We need someone the wealthy are scared of, and that's her. She's also forward thinking , which others are not.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
LakeArenal
(28,832 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
brush
(53,802 posts)There's a theory that things happen, or don't happen, when they're supposed to. Unfortunately, IMO, her time in the progressive lane at least, may have been in 2016 when many urged her to run as the progressive candidate but she declined, probably because she didn't want to run against Hillary, another woman.
And that in itself is sad since both would've been great presidents.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
aikoaiko
(34,182 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)She's not shown an ability to win:
Iowa (she came in 3rd)
New Hampshire (she came in 4th)
Nevada (she came in 4th)
South Carolina (she came in 5th)
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Progressive dog
(6,915 posts)In a democracy, the people are the wind and you are unlikely to get elected if the majority of the people disagree with your proposed policies or with the focus of your policies.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)She's my preferred candidate until she wins or drops out. I will be voting for her March 10th. I don't have a back up and will reluctantly vote for Bernie and even more reluctantly for Biden or anyone else if they are the nominated candidate.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Goodheart
(5,334 posts)But she's going to be gone as a viable candidate by next weekend.
The choice will be Sanders versus Biden.
It's an odd thing... although Warren is closer to Sanders politically I'm going to be switching my vote to Biden. Hopefully he'll choose Mrs. Warren as his running mate.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Gothmog
(145,443 posts)Link to tweet
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BeyondGeography
(39,377 posts)For different reasons, both have one term written all over them. Ideally, Warren would be the oldest remaining contender and doing better with voters. Her campaign, of which she is admittedly in charge, would certainly do some basic things over again if they had the chance (and if they were honest with themselves). But Im sticking with Warren because the alternatives dont make sense to me as long as I have the chance to support her.
Before this primary started, I didnt think Democrats were in a very good place as a party, and the way things have gone Im feeling validated. Trump has voters completely freaked out and the obsession with electability has propped up Biden. Sanders is also a creature of 2016 issues. His policies are more forward looking but his base appears to be fueled by negative feelings about Democrats as much as it is about beating Republicans, and many Democrats cant stand him. Both men are old. One lost his fastball somewhere between 2016 and 2019 and the other recently had a heart attack and wont release his health records. Were playing for the next election, and not very well at that.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
MarcA
(2,195 posts)Sadly, many seem to be embracing the inevitability of either S or B rather than
voting their conscience while they can.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mahina
(17,685 posts)Until yesterday people were saying with all seriousness if Biden doesnt win South Carolina he has to drop out. The race is not yet won or lost
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
squirecam
(2,706 posts)As you say, Biden actually won SC.
If Warren isnt even leading her home state, how can she claim any path.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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squirecam
(2,706 posts)She cant. I expect her to withdraw after Super Tuesday.
The facts are that its now between sanders and Biden. No one else has a path.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
mahina
(17,685 posts)As long as shes in the race o am for her because I think she would be the best candidate.
I like Amy too. She isnt out and you support her. I dont ask you to explain why or how she can win.
I can say that all in three words.
Cheers.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Happy Hoosier
(7,359 posts)She can no longer win. Its just reality.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
pattyloutwo
(279 posts)Still only a small handful of states. If pundits were saying Warren could win Super Tuesday, she could win Super Tuesday. The polls and predicting become a self fulfilling prophecy. I think people should vote for who is the best candidate, not who they think can win.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
zonkers
(5,865 posts)She might be able to be king maker for Bernie -- converting her earned political currency.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MarcA
(2,195 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dlk
(11,574 posts)She actually gets things done that help Americans and has reasonable plans to do even more. She seems to have been written off prematurely. How much is sexism playing into this primary?
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
She actually reminds me a lot of Obama. She's modest and ambitious in a way that makes sense (rather than aspiring to cure cancer or start a revolution). Voters seem to be ready to give in to sexism and racism way too easily. That is white male supremacy and exactly what is driving both Bernie's and Joe's popularity. I was so excited and am beginning to dread the general election. My strategy is to focus on local and state politics.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
treestar
(82,383 posts)That's not a matter of being a good executive.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
dlk
(11,574 posts)She has a proven track record of getting things done and getting her legislation passed through Congress, e. g., the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, a very big deal, the otc hearing aid bill, etc. She is effective and works across the aisle as well as anyone.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
tulipsandroses
(5,124 posts)I will support whomever the nominee will be, but it has always been my opinion that she is the smartest and most qualified as far the person able to bring about structural change that moves minorities, the poor and middle class forward.
I have not heard anyone speak to black issues the way Sen Warren has. That's because she has actually listened to black folks on the ground and incorporated the needs of black folks into her policies. She did not just speak to "black leaders". If she is not the nominee, I hope she has a lot of say in the new administration.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
McKim
(2,412 posts)I am all in for her! She would not waste trillions of dollars on wars of choice. Its time for womens values to rule in this country! Day Care, Family Leave, College Help and Health Care help. She will not give in to the MIC!!!!!!!
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)no doubt Warren is a great legislator but policies are irrelevant in this election cycle. Winning is the only focus right now.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Buzz cook
(2,474 posts)No one is more highly qualified and no one willing to fight harder.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
IronLionZion
(45,484 posts)but when it comes down to Bernie or Biden, I'll see whose supporters insult me less
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Woodycall
(259 posts)I think we should call ALL of our elections when less than 2% of the vote has been counted... (sarcasm, of course).
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Tweedy
(628 posts)We need the wisdom of the American people on this one. I don't pretend to have a monopoly on that by any stretch of the imagination.
Yet, I do know wisdom does not emanate from polls. It emanates from us when we pick based on who we believe would do the best job in this moment.
That is my message to everyone. Vote for who you believe is the right candidate. Don't let anyone, including me, tell you otherwise.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MRDAWG
(501 posts)convention is not good.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
jalan48
(13,876 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
cp
(6,649 posts)I'm watching the actual numbers from primary elections and waiting for large numbers of states/populations to weigh in, rather than listening to polls and pundits.
Will be voting for Warren in Wisconsin on April 7.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
MFM008
(19,818 posts)But reality is what it is.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ninga
(8,276 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
caraher
(6,279 posts)I want to send a delegate who had the sense to see Warren as the best president in the bunch, even if she doesn't wind up as the candidate.
I sent in my ballot for her as soon as I got it (March 10 primary).
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
samir.g
(835 posts)Especially the latter.
Not cool, "bros".
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
yaesu
(8,020 posts)to run this country & being my second choice for primary I would enthusiastically support her if she gets the nomination. There are a lot of posts bashing our most progressive candidates & every website has its share of russian bots so don't take what is said online as the views of the general Democratic population.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)Except trump of course.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)I voted for her in the Minnesota primary this past Friday (early voting).
I will be voting for the Democratic nominee, whoever that turns out to be, in the general election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
paleotn
(17,937 posts)I just don't think she's the most capable of winning the primary at this point. NH had me very worried. It's right next door to home and they know who she is, but she still couldn't gain any traction. The realpolitik is people vote based on who they "like" whatever the hell that means. Not who's policy ideas would benefit the most people or even make the most sense. She's detailed and "in the weeds." That appeals to Vulcans like me. Most folks aren't Vulcans.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
emmaverybo
(8,144 posts)That would be Joe Biden.
However, she is a fighter, brilliant, and a great anti-corruption advocate.
Her forte is domestic economic policy, but that is an area in which the president has a limited influence. And it is by no means her only responsibility.
Warren lacks foreign policy and relations experience and interest. In fact, she never spoke much to issues other than her domestic plans. She never gained traction with AA voters. She did not articulate a broader message.
I think it possible had she not made a pact with Bernie and gone against him much earlier, shed have been a much more appealing leader for progressives. Still, could she survive that cult of personality? I think some of her political moves were not the most wise.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
gibraltar72
(7,508 posts)However I am becoming resigned to Joe. I love the guy but I think he's out of step and has much to answer for. I will probably be all in when he releases the name of his reasonable Republican.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Squinch
(50,987 posts)win. That's not something I can change. And my opinion is that the only real goal is to get rid of Filthy Donnie.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
Ninga
(8,276 posts)finger in the wind and guess where the wind might be coming from.
I am left to vote for whom I believe is the best overall balanced and smart candidate.
Warren.
Not one person KNOWs ...
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
Squinch
(50,987 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
BlueWI
(1,736 posts)and a great candidate for office. It's unfortunate that Democratic voters so far have not supported her candidacy in larger numbers. She has very good administrative experience, vision, and legislative skills. I hope she does well in some of the States on Super Tuesday that are more open to her approach and persona.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
hangaleft
(649 posts)Im sticking with the candidate whos going to fight for us, not cave in the interest of non-existent bi-partisanship.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
LaurenOlimina
(1,165 posts)primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)Not so much her politics but her Gender.....other countries have Female leaders but it doesnt seem like it will happen here anytime soon.
Of course right now we all need to support our nominee, as we have an evil, dumb, crazy tax cheat and other crimes Adult Baby in Office now. Any possible nominee we select is light years better than the Abomination we are stuck with now.
Again vote Blue no matter who.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden